Powers & Abilities Sword skill (without haki) is a myth: Haki makes a master swordsman
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.Poeple expect Zoro to use KoH against s-hawk but na zoro dominate with two hakiless sword. People expect Zoro to use KoH against kaku but na zoro overpower awakened kaku that can use hardening coa with a no named santoryu move. Oda is sending a clear message to everyone to not underestimate a top tier master swordsman. S-hawk is easily YC1 only weaker than king and marco and awakened kaku easily YC2+ yet zoro traite both as fodders.
Which part of this post dispute anything that I said genius? If Zoro's swordsmanship had anything to do with Haki like you said then he would have learned how to use Haki from pre timeskip. Which we all know he didn't. That is only until he met Mihawk.
Only reason why Mihawk even brought up Armament was because Zoro couldn't prevent his sword from breaking. So as a solution Mihawk brought up Hardening as a good way to maintain his blade.
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I agree with this thread to an extent, it's obvious that haki is a fundamental part of swordsmanship in the op verse.
What I think you're missing is that haki is a power with far more applications than just those that have a correlation to ones skill with a sword.
We've seen shanks pull off the 2 most impressive feats with haki from the verse. Even before we saw shanks pass by wano or vs kidd, I've expected shanks to have some of the best haki in the verse since learning about haki. Calling shanks a hakiman doesn't mean mihawk doesn't have haki, or his haki isn't as strong, or doesn't have all 3 types. As the WSS it is expected that mihawk focused all of his time and effort into swordsmanship, which includes haki but only to an extent, nobody expects the WSS to master uses for haki that have nothing to do with swordmanship.
What I think you're missing is that haki is a power with far more applications than just those that have a correlation to ones skill with a sword.
We've seen shanks pull off the 2 most impressive feats with haki from the verse. Even before we saw shanks pass by wano or vs kidd, I've expected shanks to have some of the best haki in the verse since learning about haki. Calling shanks a hakiman doesn't mean mihawk doesn't have haki, or his haki isn't as strong, or doesn't have all 3 types. As the WSS it is expected that mihawk focused all of his time and effort into swordsmanship, which includes haki but only to an extent, nobody expects the WSS to master uses for haki that have nothing to do with swordmanship.
Which part of this post dispute anything that I said genius? If Zoro's swordsmanship had anything to do with Haki like you said then he would have learned how to use Haki from pre timeskip. Which we all know he didn't. That is only until he met Mihawk.
Only reason why Mihawk even brought up Armament was because Zoro couldn't prevent his sword from breaking. So as a solution Mihawk brought up Hardening as a good way to maintain his blade.
Only reason why Mihawk even brought up Armament was because Zoro couldn't prevent his sword from breaking. So as a solution Mihawk brought up Hardening as a good way to maintain his blade.
Why does Zoro barely pull out any new sword skill
Good thread @Nidai_Kitetsu but tha responses are some of tha funniest and outrageous shit ever lmao
You get it. About the X factor it's character unique abilities in my eyes. For example Laws Ope Ope that enhances his swordsmanship or Kings lunarian traits (not a pure swordsman but you understand what I mean). That's things that can't be taught.
You could also count Hakubas speed in there, surely an x factor against otherwise equal foes. But the most dangerous x factor will not be physical or df based but rather haki based. Beyond max haxi you could almost say. Like black blade or kill CoO-level. That's why Mihawk and Shanks are at the top and that's the reason every sword accepts Zoro.
You could also count Hakubas speed in there, surely an x factor against otherwise equal foes. But the most dangerous x factor will not be physical or df based but rather haki based. Beyond max haxi you could almost say. Like black blade or kill CoO-level. That's why Mihawk and Shanks are at the top and that's the reason every sword accepts Zoro.
The VIZ put WGS - Dai Kengou here not Saikyo Kenshi, when it says Saikyo Kenshi, because they didn't want to confuse the readers about what the original title is when they first said it was WGS.
Because Oda first time used that same title as WGS - Dai Kengou in chapter 5, then continue to call that later many times:
Oda used a different wording for the WGS title doesn't change the fact it was used as WGS first, and later was called WGS - Dai Kengou again many times by Zolo and the others:
WB's title was never called Greatest Man. Thats the difference between the 2.
Mihawk's title first time used in chapter 5: WGS
WB's title first time used: WSM
Oda said Mihawk has more skill than Shanks.
Thats what title is, having greater skills than any other swordsman.
Thats why Roger wasn't WGS despite being the strongest man who uses a sword.
The only reason Oda choose to give Roger's style to Shanks was to show both are above WGS title. As Roger was the strongest man as a sword user but still not WGS.
Because Oda first time used that same title as WGS - Dai Kengou in chapter 5, then continue to call that later many times:
Oda used a different wording for the WGS title doesn't change the fact it was used as WGS first, and later was called WGS - Dai Kengou again many times by Zolo and the others:
WB's title was never called Greatest Man. Thats the difference between the 2.
Mihawk's title first time used in chapter 5: WGS
WB's title first time used: WSM
Oda said Mihawk has more skill than Shanks.
Thats what title is, having greater skills than any other swordsman.
Thats why Roger wasn't WGS despite being the strongest man who uses a sword.
The only reason Oda choose to give Roger's style to Shanks was to show both are above WGS title. As Roger was the strongest man as a sword user but still not WGS.
Great to see others putting the spotlight on swordsmanship in Agenda Piece being as shallow as Kim Kardashian. There is little that makes swordsmanship unique as a fighting style, and as with everything else in Agenda Piece, Haki is by far the end all be all, and anyone denying that is deluding themselves.
Great thread btw.
Great thread btw.