Powers & Abilities Zoro abandoned swordsmanship

[HA001]

You don't have a point.







We have multiple instances where that isn't the case.







The most important is the attack which makes luffy realise what acoc is



Luffys attacks are not the showcase kaidos was.



The chapter showcasing the new power in question fully is the most important.. lt's key..

Oda went out of his way to witness Luffy not touching Kaido same as Oden..



Just disagree instead of saying i don't have a point..

 

[phatltse62882]

today I accept the fact that Zoro is stronger than Lanji @Warchief Sanji D Goat . Zoro x100 = Sanji.....

 

[Rootbeer]

I never said that they are the same application because the after affect is different from each others i am saying learning to "Flow" your Haki in general makes it easier to Coat yourself in CoC.

Haki is one thing "Will" all 3 types of Haki use 1 pool of Haki.
- You learn how to enhance your senses using your "Will".
- You learn how to arm yourself using your "Will".
- You control your "Will" to impose it on others. Only a select type of people can use their Will on others.

There now you can see my thinking of Haki. 3 different applications. That is originally 1 thing called "Will" which can be used differently with different applications and methods.

You think the flow method can't be used on CoC just like CoA. I say why and how was Luffy able to wield so easily? hmm go reread that chapter again and see which Flashback helped Luffy understand the method. Exactly Hyo's explanation of Flow.

The movie RED has introduced something new btw... in case you don't know. Future Sight Killer. oh wow i wonder what application does that use... CoC and CoO


Roger vs WB not touching was before the reveal and Oda drew them.

So one is manisfestation of your willpower from within your body closely related to Stamina..
And the other CoC as you say is imposing your will on others by projecting your aura outside of your body..

Big difference, CoC projecting your will outside of your body through the mind only while CoA is projecting your will inside your body through strength, resolve and stamina.. Complete opposites with distinct applications..

The result may seem similar but the way to achieve it has nothing in common..

Yeah for Roger vs WB they were hinting at the said new power where AdCoC does not touch..
And just before Roger vs Oden also hinted at the new power but for Swordsmen, CoA overflow based with CoC on activation..

You don't have a point.







We have multiple instances where that isn't the case.







The most important is the attack which makes luffy realise what acoc is



Luffys attacks are not the showcase kaidos was.

Disagreeing =/= Someone not having a point

lt might be on a narrative standpoint but for the readers the Visual explanation of what is AdCoC when it is revealed is a priority..

 

[Santoryu D Bazooka]

So one is manisfestation of your willpower from within your body closely related to Stamina..
And the other My drug dealer cheat codes as you say is imposing your will on others by projecting your aura outside of your body..

Big difference, My drug dealer cheat codes projecting your will outside of your body through the mind only while CoA is projecting your will inside your body through strength, resolve and stamina.. Complete opposites with distinct applications..

The result may seem similar but the way to achieve it has nothing in common..

Yeah for Father of the year vs Akainu’s bitch they were hinting at the said new power where AdCoC does not touch..
And just before Father of the year vs Oden also hinted at the new power but for Swordsmen, CoA overflow based with My drug dealer cheat codes on activation..

Ok now why mods have changed the naming of what we are talking about this is confusing now LOL...

Alright now the applications use of every type of Haki is different we agree on that but the way to achieve them certain ability is shared because its in your body as in flowing it around. Mind is inside your body .. so learning to flow it throu your fist/sword/club/mace whatever object is the same concept and you can't deny that because in the same chapter that Luffy realized it he had a brief flashback of Hyo explaining the concept of flow.

As for projecting your aura is what Zoro been doing man.. ever since Enies Lobby. The only assumption to what Asura is right now is it is a concept of CoC.. And Kaido outright called it out as "You have CoC too!?" and we are still unsure to this day what is Asura is. But with the recent revelation we can safely assume its Zoro tapping into AdvCoC in that state because guess what? Asura is Zoro projecting an Aura outside of his body and guess what? He already knows who to transfer his will because of Mr1 fight in alabasta but he doesn't know it yet at that point it all happens to him accidentally.

 

[Rootbeer]

Ok now why mods have changed the naming of what we are talking about this is confusing now LOL...

Alright now the applications use of every type of Haki is different we agree on that but the way to achieve them certain ability is shared because its in your body as in flowing it around. Mind is inside your body .. so learning to flow it throu your fist/sword/club/mace whatever object is the same concept and you can't deny that because in the same chapter that Ruffi realized it he had a brief flashback of Hyo explaining the concept of flow.

As for projecting your aura is what Pinzoro been doing man.. ever since Enies Lobby. The only assumption to what Asura is right now is it is a concept of My drug dealer cheat codes.. And Crydo outright called it out as "You have My drug dealer cheat codes too!?" and we are still unsure to this day what is Asura is. But with the recent revelation we can safely assume its Pinzoro tapping into AdvCoC in that state because guess what? Asura is Pinzoro projecting an Aura outside of his body and guess what? He already knows who to transfer his will because of Mr1 fight in alabasta but he doesn't know it yet at that point it all happens to him accidentally.

l don't know but i'm a mod so you're better watch your butt..

Yes the mind is inside your body but the power coming from it manifests outside the user.. You can't flow Co C in your Body..
Emission Co A can't happen around a weapon wielded only CoC Coating can create an invisible field around a Weapon.. That's my main point..

Ashura is tricky because it's activation is contingent on a demon state of mind aura.. Which is not really Co C but i think it's an intermediary level.. Still the other Zor o's popping up are Co A based.. keep in mind Sandai was created to cut Oni race.. And yeah you're right unconcious transfer against Mr1..

 

[Santoryu D Bazooka]

l don't know but i'm a police so you're better watch your butt..

Yes the mind is inside your body but the power coming from it manifests outside the user.. You can't flow Co C in your Body..
Emission Co A can't happen around a weapon wielded only My drug dealer cheat codes Coating can create an invisible field around a Weapon.. That's my main point..

You are talking as if Co C is entirely different from H a k i itself which is Will. I totally disagree because R ay l e i g h explained them all as one thing only Will.

You arm it
enhance your senses
Impose it on others

Why did L u f f y had to recall what Hyo explained by the flow in order to demonstrate it infront of us few panels after?

Ashura is tricky because it's activation is contingent on a demon state of mind aura.. Which is not really Co C but i think it's an intermediary level.. Still the other Zor o's popping up are Co A based.. keep in mind Sandai was created to cut Oni race.. And yeah you're right unconcious transfer against Mr1..

Demon state of mind.. Now that is just stretching man lol... Its just Aura being projected in that way... If S h a n k s projected a lion. Would you deny its A d V Co C and call it "animal state of mind" ?

We have no idea what Asura is but the safe assumption is that its a Co C and a A d v Co C
Why i say this.. if you go back when the scabbards 1st hurt K a i d o. He made it clear that its Ryuo that hurt him.
But when Z o r o used As u ra. He was shocked that Z o R o had Co C and since it hurt him it is safe to assume it was A d V Co C.

 

[Rootbeer]

You are talking as if Co C is entirely different from H a k i itself which is Will. I totally disagree because R ay l e i g h explained them all as one thing only Will.

You arm it
enhance your senses
Impose it on others

Why did L u f f y had to recall what Hyo explained by the flow in order to demonstrate it infront of us few panels after?

l'm saying that Co C, Co A and Co O are entirely different Haki class unrelated to one another..

For the visual similarities which people are confusing Co A and Co C for..

like Law coating his sword with his Room Awakening.. Yet its not Haki..

Demon state of mind.. Now that is just stretching man lol... Its just Aura being projected in that way... If S h a n k s projected a lion. Would you deny its A d V Co C and call it "animal state of mind" ?

We have no idea what Asura is but the safe assumption is that its a Co C and a A d v Co C
Why i say this.. if you go back when the scabbards 1st hurt K a i d o. He made it clear that its Ryuo that hurt him.
But when P I n z o l o used As u ra. He was shocked that P I n z o l o had Co C and since it hurt him it is safe to assume it was A d V Co C.

Zoro literally said on his first technique "Demon Spirit, Ashura"..
Demonic Aura=/= lmposing Will on Others

Kaid.o was more confused than Shocked because only CoCbased CoARyuo attacks can scar him..
He does not know that Zor.o's sword name is called " Oni Slayer "..

 

[Score]

Kaid.o was more confused than Shocked because only CoCbased CoARyuo attacks can scar him..

Soro hurt him with dragon twister beforehand, and Caido attributed that to Loden's blade. Caido clearly noticed Ad_CoC here

 

[Rootbeer]

Soro hurt him with dragon twister beforehand, and Caido attributed that to Loden's blade. Caido clearly noticed Ad_CoC here

Yeah but..

Hurt =/= Scar

 

[Santoryu D Bazooka]

l'm saying that Co C, Co A and Co O are entirely different Haki class unrelated to one another..

For the visual similarities which people are confusing Co A and Co C for..

based on what? i have given proof from the manga itself. You either give me a proof or evidence or you are just using head cannon

like Law coating his sword with his Room Awakening.. Yet its not Haki..

Devil fruit powers is completely different and unrelated to haki. But haki is one thing which is Will

you can arm it - enhance your senses

And if you have a strong Will you can impose it on others.

Zoro literally said on his first technique "Demon Spirit, Ashura"..
Demonic Aura=/= lmposing Will on Others

My man do you even know what Will is? LOL

AdvC oC is coating your imposing Will on yourself/attack to strike with added Co A on top to give a devastating attack.

Why do you think most characters faint after a devastating AdvC oC hits them? Because they weren't prepared to defend against it.

Kaid.o was more confused than Shocked because only CoCbased CoARyuo attacks can scar him..
He does not know that Zor.o's sword name is called " Oni Slayer "..

So Kaid o's top 5 which had Od en in with them. Scarred him using Co C based and Co ARyuo? When Ka ido stated only the strongest can wield such hakii and Od en was with the top 5 of Kai dos only using Co C Based and Co ARyuo?

And based on what did you just claim that this Co Cbased? Since when Co C based can have such affect in the fight?

Zor.o's sword name means something to Ka ido here? Why?
Did you just confirm indirectly that Ashura is a Co C? Because Ashura is projecting his will outside his body you know.. i mean its clear as crystal...

 

[Rootbeer]

based on what? i have given proof from the manga itself. You either give me a proof or evidence or you are just using head cannon

The best comparison between AdCoC and Ryuo is Whitebeard's devil fruit power.. l know it's not haki but effects are somewhat the same..

Grabbing Space itself..

Versus a charging up from within..

And a single point of impact..

Devil fruit powers is completely different and unrelated to haki. But haki is one thing which is Will

you can arm it - enhance your senses

And if you have a strong Will you can impose it on others.

lt's an analogy we know it's not Haki because it is obvious..
But since CoC Coating and CoA Emission are both coated, both invisible fields and both Haki, it's less evident to distinguish based on those visual similarities.. Yet the way to achieve each is completely separate..

My man do you even know what Will is? LOL

AdvC oC is coating your imposing Will on yourself/attack to strike with added Co A on top to give a devastating attack.

Why do you think most characters faint after a devastating AdvC oC hits them? Because they weren't prepared to defend against it.

Not on yourself, it's imposing the immediate space around yourself, but it's still outbound..

So Kaid o's top 5 which had Od en in with them. Scarred him using Co C based and Co ARyuo? When Ka ido stated only the strongest can wield such hakii and Od en was with the top 5 of Kai dos only using Co C Based and Co ARyuo?

And based on what did you just claim that this Co Cbased? Since when Co C based can have such affect in the fight?

Zor.o's sword name means something to Ka ido here? Why?
Did you just confirm indirectly that Ashura is a Co C? Because Ashura is projecting his will outside his body you know.. i mean its clear as crystal...

What does top 5 or Oden got to do if Kaido has never been cut by Kitetsu which was especially created to cut Kaido's race?..

l said that Demonic Aura is not projecting your will on others and Ashura to my understanding is CoA overflow based Kitetsu's personality.. Enma exude CoA from the wielder, Kitetsu exude(bewitch) a Demon Aura from the wielder..

 

[Santoryu D Bazooka]

The best comparison between AdCoC and Ryuo is Whitebeard's devil fruit power.. l know it's not haki but effects are somewhat the same..

Grabbing Space itself..

Versus a charging up from within..

And a single point of impact..

Anything isn't haki is completely unreliable source. Since Devil Fruit can do things out of the norm.

lt's an analogy we know it's not Haki because it is obvious..
But since CoC Coating and CoA Emission are both coated, both invisible fields and both Haki, it's less evident to distinguish based on those visual similarities.. Yet the way to achieve each is completely separate..

No one has said achieving is the same method. Since not everyone can do what everyone else can on the exact level. And yet again you solved nothing here...

Not on yourself, it's imposing the immediate space around yourself, but it's still outbound..

On yourself i meant as in coating it around you. not disagreeing here

What does top 5 or Oden got to do if Kaido has never been cut by Kitetsu which was especially created to cut Kaido's race?..

You said CoC based and Ryuo can scar Kaido. Is that why Oden is in Kaido's top 5? Because he can't do what Kaido deemed "only the strongest can wield such power" aka "AdvCoC". And Zoro doing the exact same thing as Oden should be a no brainer Since Kaido was shocked at Asura's affect on him.. Connect the dot. CoC Based has never been used to do anything in fights.

The whole fight of Luffy vs Kaido is exactly telling us that CoC based is nothing but affecting the weak. Only when you coat yourself in CoC aka AdvCoC you can use it to combat Kaido. Which again he himself declared only the strongest can do.

What is the point of revealing Zoro's having CoC? Think for yourself. Oda specifically chose to reveal it in an attack. To highlight what?
What Luffy will discover few panels after.

If Oda wanted to show off Zoro's 1st CoC Based he could have used it anywhere else in Onigashima.

You are just digging deeper when the answer is clear.

l said that Demonic Aura is not projecting your will on others and Ashura to my understanding is CoA overflow based Kitetsu's personality.. Enma exude CoA from the wielder, Kitetsu exude(bewitch) a Demon Aura from the wielder..

Are you sure this is your understanding? Because there was never any hints or explanation towards this claim of yours.

All we have is "Kid you have CoC too?!" in an attack that replicated what Oden did. Only the strongest can wield it.

Think man think lol.