Controversial General Political Discussion

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[Mr. Reloaded]

 

[Jew D. Boy]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1644127873706360832

Still waiting for someone to furnish proof of trans people doing this kind of shit, because once again, we can verify that pedophilia is privately happening in the same circles where it’s publicly condemned…!!

 

[Ultra]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1644127873706360832

Still waiting for someone to furnish proof of trans people doing this kind of shit, because once again, we can verify that pedophilia is privately happening in the same circles where it’s publicly condemned…!!

Here ya go:

https://thefederalist.com/2020/02/1...mond-is-amazing-pretending-to-snort-ketamine/

Well, I guess Drag Queens *technically* aren't Trans, but otherwise, there's your answer. Frankly your demand is trivially easy to satisfy - there are countless examples of children being groomed online by adult (biological) men on discord, chatrooms, etc.

The Catholic Church does have a history. I personally have no qualms acknowledging this, but it is a deflection.

 

[Seatonnes]

Here ya go:

https://thefederalist.com/2020/02/1...mond-is-amazing-pretending-to-snort-ketamine/

Well, I guess Drag Queens *technically* aren't Trans, but otherwise, there's your answer. Frankly your demand is trivially easy to satisfy - there are countless examples of children being groomed online by adult (biological) men on discord, chatrooms, etc.

The Catholic Church does have a history. I personally have no qualms acknowledging this, but it is a deflection.

did you never pretend to snort "cocaine" as a kid?
did you never have fun in your childhood?

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Here ya go:

https://thefederalist.com/2020/02/1...mond-is-amazing-pretending-to-snort-ketamine/

Well, I guess Drag Queens *technically* aren't Trans, but otherwise, there's your answer. Frankly your demand is trivially easy to satisfy - there are countless examples of children being groomed online by adult (biological) men on discord, chatrooms, etc.

The Catholic Church does have a history. I personally have no qualms acknowledging this, but it is a deflection.

If you actually cared about child abuse, you’d look at these cases - one trans person doing a disgusting thing, and one entire religious organization methodically raping hundreds of children for six decades - and realize you’re comparing apples to oranges with festering chancres, but I guess someone snorting ketamine is more dangerous to the public than authority figures routinely molesting kids without consequence, you’ve made your point there.

 

[Ultra]

I got confused. The 98% is cis males.

Still, for one key demographic to not only be the plurality, but the majority when it comes to perpetrating mass shootings in America is a big cause for concern.

Would you consider this statement valid for any demographic dominating a certain category of crime? I'm going to assume you wouldn't logically apply this same line of thinking to other groups, and that you would probably call someone else racist if they did.

How do you expect this to be actionable anyway? Ban white males from owning guns? lol
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did you never pretend to snort "cocaine" as a kid?
did you never have fun in your childhood?

Uh...no...

If you actually cared about child abuse, you’d look at these cases - one trans person doing a disgusting thing, and one entire religious organization methodically raping hundreds of children for six decades - and realize you’re comparing apples to oranges with festering chancres, but I guess someone snorting ketamine is more dangerous to the public than authority figures routinely molesting kids without consequence, you’ve made your point there.

Well, now you're moving the goalpost - you asked for an example and I provided one. I also said I had no issue with pointing out the abuses of the Catholic Church. This is Culture War fodder 101 - you're promoting the comparison to bash Christians, I get it. But it doesn't demand picking a side. I have no issue with saying nay to Drag Queen story hours and molesting preists.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Can’t believe I live in a country where people are more afraid of transgenders than their children being murdered at school

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Would you consider this statement valid for any demographic dominating a certain category of crime? I'm going to assume you wouldn't logically apply this same line of thinking to other groups, and that you would probably call someone else racist if they did.

How do you expect this to be actionable anyway? Ban white males from owning guns? lol
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Uh...no...



Well, now you're moving the goalpost - you asked for an example and I provided one. I also said I had no issue with pointing out the abuses of the Catholic Church. This is Culture War fodder 101 - you're promoting the comparison to bash Christians, I get it. But it doesn't demand picking a side. I have no issue with saying nay to Drag Queen story hours and molesting preists.

Moving the fucking goalpost, give me a break - 600 children were raped, and you’re focusing on a single trans kid doing drugs, do you really think these things are equal in societal impact?? It has less to do with the fact that this is happening in the Catholic church and more to do with the fact that KIDS ARE BEING MOLESTED ON A MAJOR SCALE and you’re deflecting instead of condemning this disgusting behavior. For people who always cry about liberal misconduct, y’all never seem to mind during the many, MANY other instances of conservatives diddling kids!!

 

[Ultra]

Moving the fucking goalpost, give me a break - 600 children were raped, and you’re focusing on a single trans kid doing drugs, do you really think these things are equal in societal impact?? It has less to do with the fact that this is happening in the Catholic church and more to do with the fact that KIDS ARE BEING MOLESTED ON A MAJOR SCALE and you’re deflecting instead of condemning this disgusting behavior. For people who always cry about liberal misconduct, y’all never seem to mind during the many, MANY other instances of conservatives diddling kids!!

I literally didn't lol. You're relying on contrast and comparison to defend your point, so you deny my immediate concession of the abuses of the catholic church. Saying "X group does this" is not actually a defense of Y.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

I literally didn't lol. You're relying on contrast and comparison to defend your point, so you deny my immediate concession of the abuses of the catholic church. Saying "X group does this" is not actually a defense of Y.

You haven’t said a single thing about how horrible it is to learn about 600 children being molested, you just posted a link to the fucking Federalist and started in with the usual “both sides do it” rhetoric. When you can’t drop your politics long enough to acknowledge when something is objectively offensive, your priorities are so fucked up that it becomes impossible to take you seriously, because you can’t even speak against something unassailably evil when it doesn’t fit your narrative.

 

[Seatonnes]

Would you consider this statement valid for any demographic dominating a certain category of crime? I'm going to assume you wouldn't logically apply this same line of thinking to other groups, and that you would probably call someone else racist if they did.

its different because in other crimes certain groups and over policed, wereas with mass shootings we know the actual statistics, very bad strawman

 

[Ultra]

You haven’t said a single thing about how horrible it is to learn about 600 children being molested.

Yes, I did. In my first post. I'll make it more explicit - I don't think positively of the institution whatsoever. But still, it's irrelevant to your point of "show me a single case".

you just posted a link to the fucking Federalist and started in with the usual “both sides do it” rhetoric.

...Is it rhetoric if it's demonstrably true? What's the issue here

When you can’t drop your politics long enough to acknowledge when something is objectively offensive, your priorities are so fucked up that it becomes impossible to take you seriously, because you can’t even speak against something unassailably evil when it doesn’t fit your narrative

Think you're demonstrating this point better than I am - instead of addressing what I showed you, you've gone into hysterics about the catholic church, that I didn't even contest. Seems like you've got a drum to beat, actually. I've got no qualms calling evil what it is *shrugs*
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its different because in other crimes certain groups and over policed, wereas with mass shootings we know the actual statistics, very bad strawman

This is...a wildly out of touch standpoint. Am I correct to assume you think all demographic disparities in crime are due to misreporting except in the specific case of white males committing mass shootings? Jee, that sure is convenient.

No offense, but you're fucking dumb if you believe this. Sorry. Can't really cross the bridge any other way.

And more to the point - do you think that it's ok to make widespread assumptions/condemnation about demographics regardless of the statistics? The answer should still be no.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Would you consider this statement valid for any demographic dominating a certain category of crime? I'm going to assume you wouldn't logically apply this same line of thinking to other groups, and that you would probably call someone else racist if they did.

How do you expect this to be actionable anyway? Ban white males from owning guns? lol

Is that what you think I said? Do you really think I’m saying we should ban white people from owning guns? Jesus Christ, reread my comments. I’m criticizing those clowns in Tennessee trying to ban trans people from owning guns.

 

[Ultra]

Is that what you think I said? Do you really think I’m saying we should ban white people from owning guns? Jesus Christ, reread my comments. I’m criticizing those clowns in Tennessee trying to ban trans people from owning guns.

I wasn't really sure what you were implying, hence why I asked.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Would you consider this statement valid for any demographic dominating a certain category of crime? I'm going to assume you wouldn't logically apply this same line of thinking to other groups, and that you would probably call someone else racist if they did.

How do you expect this to be actionable anyway? Ban white males from owning guns? lol

and all I’m saying is that BY RATE white people perpetrate most of the mass shootings that happen in America. How do we deal with it? Background checks. Not some weird useless crackdown against white people or trans people.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Yes, I did. In my first post. I'll make it more explicit - I don't think positively of the institution whatsoever. But still, it's irrelevant to your point of "show me a single case".

You’re right, you showed me a case…and in the process, you decided 600 kids getting raped is roughly equal to one trans person doing something to themselves, that’s the problem. Go ahead and say that isn’t what you’re doing, you’ve already chosen to whitewash child molestation so you don’t really have anything left to lose.

...Is it rhetoric if it's demonstrably true? What's the issue here

Again, the issue is that “both sides” doesn’t work when one side is individualized and the other is foundational for an entire group of people. If a trans person kills someone with a handgun and a MAGA supporter lights up an entire grocery store with an assault rifle, that’s not exactly the same thing, right?? Can you at least see what’s wrong now?? Whether you agree or not, do you have the cognitive abilities to realize why one is a little more dangerous than the other??

Think you're demonstrating this point better than I am - instead of addressing what I showed you, you've gone into hysterics about the catholic church, that I didn't even contest. Seems like you've got a drum to beat, actually. I've got no qualms calling evil what it is *shrugs*

Well, you haven’t actually done it once in the course of defending pedophiles who probably vote the same way you do, so par for the fucking course there.

 

[Ultra]

You’re right, you showed me a case…and in the process, you decided 600 kids getting raped is roughly equal to one trans person doing something to themselves, that’s the problem. Go ahead and say that isn’t what you’re doing, you’ve already chosen to whitewash child molestation so you don’t really have anything left to lose.

Again, the issue is that “both sides” doesn’t work when one side is individualized and the other is foundational for an entire group of people. If a trans person kills someone with a handgun and a MAGA supporter lights up an entire grocery store with an assault rifle, that’s not exactly the same thing, right?? Can you at least see what’s wrong now?? Whether you agree or not, do you have the cognitive abilities to realize why one is a little more dangerous than the other??

Well, you haven’t actually done it once in the course of defending pedophiles who probably vote the same way you do, so par for the fucking course there.

Let me educate you on what a "deflection" is.

You made a point:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1644127873706360832

Still waiting for someone to furnish proof of trans people doing this kind of shit, because once again, we can verify that pedophilia is privately happening in the same circles where it’s publicly condemned…!!

Which I addressed, while also preemptively assuring you I'm not defending the catholic church.

You then proceed to go into a hysterical rant about the catholic church, and that I'm defending pedophiles, because you don't know how to do anything but reiterate this point that you thought was extremely insightful, over and over again.

*That* is deflection on your part. lol

 

[Seatonnes]

Which I addressed

Here ya go:

https://thefederalist.com/2020/02/1...mond-is-amazing-pretending-to-snort-ketamine/

Well, I guess Drag Queens *technically* aren't Trans, but otherwise, there's your answer. Frankly your demand is trivially easy to satisfy - there are countless examples of children being groomed online by adult (biological) men on discord, chatrooms, etc.

The Catholic Church does have a history. I personally have no qualms acknowledging this, but it is a deflection.

are you sure you actually addressed it?
because in my books, you didnt address shit

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Let me educate you on what a "deflection" is.

You made a point:



Which I addressed, while also preemptively assuring you I'm not defending the catholic church.

You then proceed to go into a hysterical rant about the catholic church, and that I'm defending pedophiles, because you don't know how to do anything but reiterate this point that you thought was extremely insightful, over and over again.

lol

You’re the one who immediately accused me of making it about the church, buddy…

you're promoting the comparison to bash Christians

…whereas I was more focused on the child rape aspect, something you’re STILL not actually condemning in any meaningful way. I’ve only ever seen you proselytize about Jesus on this forum, how about you start acting like him and call out disgusting behavior in your camp instead of bitching about isolated incidents among the trans community?? He was about love and acceptance in all scenarios, and yet I haven’t met a single Christian who actually practices the preaching.