Break Week Why is Zolo more popular despite Sanji is portrayed to be more important

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Luffy: I can't be PK without you

Luffy a gluttonous man meanwhile Sanji is a cook

Is this Oda's trick to balance out the popularity?

Remember in an SBS Oda said he is scared of Zoro and his popularity.

Is Oda scared to focus on Zoro because he might surpass his golden child?

Why despite having more focus Sanji still failed to overtake Zoro's popularity?
 
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You need a sufficiently high intellect to be a Sanji fan and understand his character, whereas Zoro is more designed to appeal to people who read picture books and have short attention spans, he's extremely simplistic and is your generic tough guy, unfortunately there are more people who fit into the latter than the former, which results in Zolo being the more "popular" character.
 
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Infitima said:
Because edgy teens like swords.

Funnily enough as a teen I'd have chosen Zoro being obsessed with swords and samurai myself. But growing up, and texr-based roleplaying constantly, taught me to appreciate good writing and character development, i.e Sanji, Luffy, and Law.

Kids like swords. Adults like depth.
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If you think zoro has no depth then you have to grow up some more.
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BOCCHI said:
It’s simple Oda designed and created Zoro’s character all about being badass, cool and serious to attract certain types of fans. Which does the job. It’s not an Oda thing tbh, most serious have a “Zoro” of their own.
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If Zoro's purpose is to be popular why is Oda so scared of it?

Oda: I will create a character that is going to be popular

Also Oda: Oh nooooo he's gonna surpass Luffy!!? What do I do?
 
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Stacks said:
If you think zoro has no depth then you have to grow up some more.
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He has no motivations or buildup to who he is. One childhood event and a few now adult story experiences don't build your entire lifes path, and that's where Zoro lacks. Even a villain like Doffy shows more depth.

I've given Zoro credit where he has had development in-story before and wrote out key moments. But it still remains a million questions:

Like in Skypiea, he tells Enel he doesn't fight for things like revenge, but we as the reader see that change as he realizes his connections to the crew. That's a character development moment but leaves too many questions.

Why does he not fight for revenge before? Lack of connections? Why? Oda filled these in for Sanji and we know why he fights, why he has no self-worth, what he believes in, why he believes in it, to where we can write an entire thesis and analysis.

You can get some, but not a lot out of Zoro because Oda won't give anything.
 
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Infitima said:
He has no motivations or buildup to who he is. One childhood event and a few now adult story experiences don't build your entire lifes path, and that's where Zoro lacks. Even a villain like Doffy shows more depth.

I've given Zoro credit where he has had development in-story before and wrote out key moments. But it still remains a million questions:

Like in Skypiea, he tells Enel he doesn't fight for things like revenge, but we as the reader see that change as he realizes his connections to the crew. That's a character development moment but leaves too many questions.

Why does he not fight for revenge before? Lack of connections? Why? Oda filled these in for Sanji and we know why he fights, why he has no self-worth, what he believes in, why he believes in it, to where we can write an entire thesis and analysis.

You can get some, but not a lot out of Zoro because Oda won't give anything.
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He lived his entire life in a samurai village and was competing his whole life.

With his both parents gone he has nothing to turn to but Swords.

Kuina reinforced his dream and life by being his rival but suddenly getting robbed of your rival would lead you to despair but Zoro didn't turn that way but lived and trained harder not only for his dream but for also his friends dream.

A sword full of hatred is dull.

I get it you don't understand Zolo yet. All those metaphors and deep words of his character doesn't reach your brain yet.

It will take sometime
 
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Stacks said:
I get it you don't understand Zolo yet. All those metaphors and deep words of his character doesn't reach your brain yet.

It will take sometime
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Dude, like I said I've given credit where I see development: https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...lopment-among-monster-trio.35374/post-3722201

But even breaking it down. You still can't tie all of what part of Zoro's personality we have to why he acts the way he does. You need more to have a fully fleshed out character in writing. There's too many unknowns.
 
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Infitima said:
Dude, like I said I've given credit where I see development: https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...lopment-among-monster-trio.35374/post-3722201

But even breaking it down. You still can't tie all of what part of Zoro's personality we have to why he acts the way he does. You need more to have a fully fleshed out character in writing. There's too many unknowns.
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?? I explained to you a canon reason why he doesn't fight for revenge. Did you happened to not read it?
 
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I think a glimpse of Zoro's past, the Grim Reaper in Wano and the demands on Vegapunk is foreshadowing that it will be revealed soon especially the lore dump lately. Why they haven't revealed his backstory like the others is because most likely it's tied to the Void Century where Ryuma played a major role of making the WG stay away from Wano. The same reason why they didn't reveal Kaido's and his depression/motivations because it's tied to the God Valley incident which can't be revealed until later.

Lots of things still remained unanswered in Wano due to this reason and i'm sure they will go back to Zoro and Toki's past. He is a descendant and looks like Ushimaru and is a one-eyed swordsman like Ryuma so noway it can't be left unanswered, who his parents are (legendary clan of Ryuma?), why he ended up at the dojo alone is not a coincidence. Where did he learn the Asura, conqueror's Haki and three-sword style from at early age? Even the Yazuka said it reminds them of Ushimaru. Sanji didn't become like that and had his abilities from Germa 66 which was revealed later on.
 
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SkySanji said:
You need a sufficiently high intellect to be a Sanji fan and understand his character, whereas Zoro is more designed to appeal to people who read picture books and have short attention spans, he's extremely simplistic and is your generic tough guy, unfortunately there are more people who fit into the latter than the former, which results in Zolo being the more "popular" character.
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A picture book that appeals to those with a short attention span? You mean like a comic? Like a Japanese comic? Like a Japanese comic for teenagers?

Hmm. :bamathink:
 
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