Speculations Perfect Example of Real Swordsmen VS Swordsmen..

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Hyougoro is the perfect representation of that paradigm.. He's a Swordsman born and raise in Wano, the Land of the " Samurai "..

Yet Hyougoro does not consider himself a Samurai, when he refers to Samurais he excluded himself from the subject..




Hyougoro is specifically a " Yakuza " who is Also a Swordsman but Not a Samurai.. This means that not all Swordsmen from
Wano are Samurai..

This is the reason why He couldn't teach Luffy Internal Destruction CoA, his Limit is CoA Emission, he does not possess the ability to imbue
Ryuo in his Blade.. The Scabbards all can do it because the were able to make Kaido Bleed..





Internal Destruction CoA's base level is to Imbue your Sword in Haki..




Here we can see Hyougoro using CoA Emission in the Flames aroung his Body with his Hair just like Marigold in Amazon Lily..






So all This to say that Wano the Land of Samurai(Swordsmen), Swordsmen are not all Samurai..


Have a Thee!..





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Yet Hyougoro does not consider himself a Samurai, when he refers to Samurais he excluded himself from the subject..
You know the whole thread falls apart since you didn't provide any evidence to support your claim that "he does not consider himself a samurai".

Ok but what is your point exactly? Zoro is not a Samurai too we never see him consider himself as one even his crew don't consider him as one. Yet we see some Bushido acts from him.



What Hyo implied here is that all swordsman in Wano only knows how to use Ryuo on the blade and he never once said that anyone knows how to use internal destruction.

And all the scabbards did was exactly that. Hurt Kaido on the surface level using the same technique Hyo talked about and that includes Zoro. Stating otherwise when nothing in the story hints towards the idea that the scabbards did any internal damage on Kaido or Even Zoro for that matter is falsifying and creating a new narrative with nothing to support it but visual affect and head cannon to separate Zoro from all CoC users.

Here have 1 image from Film Gold which is written and illustrated by Eiichiro Oda himself. Zoro used normal hardening to defend himself.


Why don't you just come out and say it without all this bullshit. Say i don't like the idea of Zoro getting CoC and AdCoC. :gokulaugh::gokulaugh:

Now i will be back to nitpicking every holes in your threads and troll of course :goyea:
 
#14
Hyougoro is the perfect representation of that paradigm.. He's a Swordsman born and raise in Wano, the Land of the " Samurai "..

Yet Hyougoro does not consider himself a Samurai, when he refers to Samurais he excluded himself from the subject..




Hyougoro is specifically a " Yakuza " who is Also a Swordsman but Not a Samurai.. This means that not all Swordsmen from
Wano are Samurai..

This is the reason why He couldn't teach Luffy Internal Destruction CoA, his Limit is CoA Emission, he does not possess the ability to imbue
Ryuo in his Blade.. The Scabbards all can do it because the were able to make Kaido Bleed..





Internal Destruction CoA's base level is to Imbue your Sword in Haki..




Here we can see Hyougoro using CoA Emission in the Flames aroung his Body with his Hair just like Marigold in Amazon Lily..






So all This to say that Wano the Land of Samurai(Swordsmen), Swordsmen are not all Samurai..


Have a Thee!..





Wanted Taggers : @ConquistadoR @nik87
Its a nice flat earth narrative
 
#15
You know the whole thread falls apart since you didn't provide any evidence to support your claim that "he does not consider himself a samurai".

Ok but what is your point exactly? Zoro is not a Samurai too we never see him consider himself as one even his crew don't consider him as one. Yet we see some Bushido acts from him.



What Hyo implied here is that all swordsman in Wano only knows how to use Ryuo on the blade and he never once said that anyone knows how to use internal destruction.

And all the scabbards did was exactly that. Hurt Kaido on the surface level using the same technique Hyo talked about and that includes Zoro. Stating otherwise when nothing in the story hints towards the idea that the scabbards did any internal damage on Kaido or Even Zoro for that matter is falsifying and creating a new narrative with nothing to support it but visual affect and head cannon to separate Zoro from all CoC users.

Here have 1 image from Film Gold which is written and illustrated by Eiichiro Oda himself. Zoro used normal hardening to defend himself.


Why don't you just come out and say it without all this bullshit. Say i don't like the idea of Zoro getting CoC and AdCoC. :gokulaugh::gokulaugh:

Now i will be back to nitpicking every holes in your threads and troll of course :goyea:



Zoro is a descendant of Samurai and learn to Imbue his Sword in CoA first, not Base CoA..

You can't discern what Hyougoro thought Luffy and what the Scabbards did, and i even explained it in this thread..
Imbuing your Sword in CoA is base level of Internal Destruction CoA, which Hyougoro can not do..
His limit is CoA Emission, CoA Bougyo..

Yeah Because maybe Swordsmen(WSS) use CoA based CoC attacks and not AdCoC..:lawsigh:


Film gold is not Canon, Zoro has never used Armament to protect his body..
 
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Zoro is a descendant of Samurai and learn to Imbue his Sword in CoA first, not Base CoA..

You can't discern what Hyougoro thought Luffy and what the Scabbards did, and i even explained it in this thread..
Imbuing your Sword in CoA is base level of Internal Destruction CoA, which Hyougoro can not do..
His limit is CoA Emission, CoA Bougyo..

Yeah Because maybe Swordsmen(WSS) use CoA based CoC attacks and not AdCoC..:lawsigh:


Film gold is not Canon, Zoro has never used Armament to protect his body..
Zoro is a descendant of a swordsman of east blue 1st then of Ryuma:goyea:. Your main argument for Hyo is that you claim that he doesn't consider himself a Samurai. So there also no proof that Zoro considers himself a Samurai not even his crew does.

That panel is weak Hyo speaking because he was already broken just like all the Samurai in Udon he was killed metaphorically. :crazwhat: . If all the Samurai are dead then how come so many of them rose up.

You forgot the main point of Wano which is that the Samurai died off. And it happened again during Onigashima when Kaido killed Orochi he declared all the Samurai have been vanquished because the Samurai that followed Orochi have joined them. :jay-he: The scabbards themselves are your proof in plain sight. They existed "Ashura" yet The land of Wano was a land of no Samurai. :jordanmf: Now go tell me he was hiding as a thief. That will prove my point since Samurai takes pride in being one and when they don't that mean they are ashamed.:gokulaugh:

As for your explanation for imbuing is base level of internal destruction. Is wrong how can base level of "internal" destruction only cuts the surface when the name is "internal" :kawak:. Even your panel of Kaido is suggesting a "cut". Heck the main point of Scabbards vs Kaido was that they couldn't even open the wound itself that Oden gave him. :kobeha:

"Yeah Because maybe Swordsmen(WSS) use CoA based CoC attacks and not AdCoC.."
What if Mihawk turns out that he doesn't even have CoC in the 1st place? :milaugh::milaugh: Then what?
 
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#20
Hyougoro is the perfect representation of that paradigm.. He's a Swordsman born and raise in Wano, the Land of the " Samurai "..

Yet Hyougoro does not consider himself a Samurai, when he refers to Samurais he excluded himself from the subject..




Hyougoro is specifically a " Yakuza " who is Also a Swordsman but Not a Samurai.. This means that not all Swordsmen from
Wano are Samurai..

This is the reason why He couldn't teach Luffy Internal Destruction CoA, his Limit is CoA Emission, he does not possess the ability to imbue
Ryuo in his Blade.. The Scabbards all can do it because the were able to make Kaido Bleed..





Internal Destruction CoA's base level is to Imbue your Sword in Haki..




Here we can see Hyougoro using CoA Emission in the Flames aroung his Body with his Hair just like Marigold in Amazon Lily..






So all This to say that Wano the Land of Samurai(Swordsmen), Swordsmen are not all Samurai..


Have a Thee!..





Wanted Taggers : @ConquistadoR @nik87
Allow me to enlighten you , Your AVI character , himself considered Zoro a Good swordsman.
 
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