Controversial General Political Discussion

[Bisoromi Bear]

well,Colombia/Peru/Venezuela's government certainly have a history of facilitating drug trafficking.Not wrong,the big problem in Latin America is the lack of industrializatio.Countries like Israel and Japan have poor lands and yet are developed nations.Latin America is poor because the governments suffocates the economy and do very poorly at providing good quality education services.Funnily enough,the most develope nations here are the ones with the most liberal economies:Chile,Paraguay,Uruguay,Panama and so on.Those chemsit that came here were living off from government finacial benefits so they could gradute,they certainly were low middle class.All of them told me to forget about studying for now and focus on working and buying a house,car and so on.They didn't even own a tiny apartment back in Colombia despite being 40 years old.You are the one that is talking out of your ass here.Associating my views with being rich too.

Walloftext no mi

I mean, that should be obvious.

Everybody knows it's obvious, that kid (nameless) is being manipulative🤣

 

[NAMELESS]

I mean you said it yourself
Capitalism was indirectly born because we strayed away from God's teachings
Supporting such a system is wrong because it supports this greed

You can trade goods and services without that
The elites created the economic rules
No one is against a good life but we’re against unnecessary luxury
a government should always support those in need and shouldn’t be a puppet of the companies and elites

Here is the problem:if you are in the government,that already makes you part of the elite,because you have power over a nation.A good ruler is the one that is a god fearing man.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Always think its weird how one of the biggest mitzvot in the bible is that your not supposed to oppress immigrants, something that's stated multiple times. Yet you never hear "Christian" politicians and pundits quoting those verses.

I really think that the american immigration system is set up for the sole purpose of benefitting corporations. You have 3 tiers of workers:

1. Citizens
2. Immigrants
3. undocumented immigrants

Migrant workers are dependent on their employment in order to stay in the country, so they are willing to work for less than their work is valued. The undocumented are people who are so desperate that they will literally work for anything and allow themselves to be treated like dogshit.

All of this not only abuses immigrants, but its used to undercut American workers. Immigrant workers sometimes outcompete american workers because they have less rights and hence corporations can get away with paying them less. Corporations can then make donations to the republican party, which will scapegoat immigrants and let corporations off the hook for screwing American workers.

Fact of the matter is that immigrants don't want to get paid shit wages. Nobody does. They're forced into it due to the shitty immigration laws. If the immigration laws were built to empower immigrants, then they would be able to fight alongside american workers for higher wages and better treatment. Unfortunately, white supremacy so built into american society that Americans would rather screw over immigrants than help themselves.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

well,Colombia/Peru/Venezuela's government certainly have a history of facilitating drug trafficking.Not wrong,the big problem in Latin America is the lack of industrializatio.Countries like Israel and Japan have poor lands and yet are developed nations.Latin America is poor because the governments suffocates the economy and do very poorly at providing good quality education services.Funnily enough,the most develope nations here are the ones with the most liberal economies:Chile,Paraguay,Uruguay,Panama and so on.Those chemsit that came here were living off from government finacial benefits so they could gradute,they certainly were low middle class.All of them told me to forget about studying for now and focus on working and buying a house,car and so on.They didn't even own a tiny apartment back in Colombia despite being 40 years old.You are the one that is talking out of your ass here.Associating my views with being rich too.

Read about land distribution in Latin America. It's the consensus scholars in and outside of Latam have agreed upon in regards as to why Latin America has rampant inequality. Watch Cinema Novo films. Barren Lives is a great example that showcases how Brazil still follows the Portuguese colonial system when it comes to land ownership and distribution.

 

[NAMELESS]

Always think its weird how one of the biggest mitzvot in the bible is that your not supposed to oppress immigrants, something that's stated multiple times. Yet you never hear "Christian" politicians and pundits quoting those verses.

I really think that the american immigration system is set up for the sole purpose of benefitting corporations. You have 3 tiers of workers:

1. Citizens
2. Immigrants
3. undocumented immigrants

Migrant workers are dependent on their employment in order to stay in the country, so they are willing to work for less than their work is valued. The undocumented are people who are so desperate that they will literally work for anything and allow themselves to be treated like dogshit.

All of this not only abuses immigrants, but its used to undercut American workers. Immigrant workers sometimes outcompete american workers because they have less rights and hence corporations can get away with paying them less. Corporations can then make donations to the republican party, which will scapegoat immigrants and let corporations off the hook for screwing American workers.

Fact of the matter is that immigrants don't want to get paid shit wages. Nobody does. They're forced into it due to the shitty immigration laws. If the immigration laws were built to empower immigrants, then they would be able to fight alongside american workers for higher wages and better treatment. Unfortunately, white supremacy so built into american society that Americans would rather screw over immigrants than help themselves.

you do realize modern states do not follow religion,right?

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

american immigration system is set up for the sole purpose of benefitting corporations.

Like everything else in Murica

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

I was told you were in need of gifs?

 

[Monkey D Theories]

you do realize modern states do not follow religion,right?

idk. My state banned abortion, and gay marriage is technically illegal on the books(albeit the supreme court ruling makes this law unenforceable).

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I was told you were in need of gifs?

Yes
Nameless-chwan wants you to support his favourite politician after Bumsonaro

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Right wing politics seem to follow religion, but only when it justifies them doing something shitty.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Yes
Nameless-chwan wants you to support his favourite politician after Bumsonaro

@NAMELESS

 

[NAMELESS]

Read about land distribution, It's the consensus scholars in and outside of Latin America have agreed upon on why Latin America has rampant inequality. Watch Cinema Novo films. Barren Lives is a great example that showcases how Brazil still follows the Portuguese colonial system when it comes to land ownership and distribution.

I know about these movements here,most of the terrorism here is done by these people.They kill farmers and steal land.Yes,the coup that created our Republic was done by farmers and the military elites(who were mostly farmers too).So yes,communism is not the only problem in Brazil.We have been ruled by corrupt scum since 1889.Our Monarch wanted to redestribute the land so the recently freed slaves could make a living.That is what brought down the demise of our Monarchy.No tributary /economical reform and land redestribution since forever...The Commies have been in charge since 1964 and they keep promising this land re-distribution,yet...they haven't done so in decades.They are just charlatans,they want to keep people poor and dependent of the government so they keep getting elected and also to preserve the status quo of rich elites,most of these billionaires here are left wing and support politicians with money for their election campaings.Its all about keeping your monopoly and getting elected for them.Brazil needs an American style revolution to be free again.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Listen, I'm not a big fan of cuba and their undemocratic political system. But just so you guys know, despite having everything stacked against them, they still managed to have the best healthcare system in Latin America in regards to quality and service.

 

[NAMELESS]

@NAMELESS

I voted for Bolsonaro to not vote in any left winger.The brazilian right needs a better candidate than him,he did decent.But we need great and not decent.

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Listen, I'm not a big fan of cuba and their undemocratic political system. But just so you guys know, despite everything stacked against them, they still managed to have the best healthcare system in Latin America in regards to quality and service.

nope,that is a hoax too.Many Cuban doctors came to Brazil to work and most of them did bad in the tests regarding professional qualification.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

I know about these movements here,most of the terrorism here is done by these people.They kill farmers and steal land.Yes,the coup that created our Republic was done by farmers and the military elites(who were mostly farmers too).So yes,communism is not the only problem in Brazil.We have been ruled by corrupt scum since 1889.Our Monarch wanted to redestribute the land so the recently freed slaves could make a living.That is what brought down the demise of our Monarchy.No tributary /economical reform and land redestribution since forever...The Commies have been in charge since 1964 and they keep promising this land re-distribution,yet...they haven't done so in decades.They are just charlatans,they want to keep people poor and dependent of the government so they keep getting elected and also to preserve the status quo of rich elites,most of these billionaires here are left wing and support politicians with money for their election campaings.Its all about keeping your monopoly and getting elected for them.Brazil needs an American style revolution to be free again.

Billionares? LEFT WING? Good day to you sir. You can talk to me once you understand the nuances of social democracy, Democratic Socialism and anarcho-capitalism. until then.

 

[NAMELESS]

idk. My state banned abortion, and gay marriage is technically illegal on the books(albeit the supreme court ruling makes this law unenforceable).

...and?States might follow no religion,but the people do.In democracies,if most people want something banned,it will be.

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Billionares? LEFT WING? Good day to you sir. You can talk to me once you understand the nuances of social democracy, Democratic Socialism and anarcho-capitalism. until then.

Yes,Billionaries.Even the Taurus CEO is calling for more gun control and legislation.They to this try to salvage their monopoly that was broken during Bolsonaro's government.This is one the most restricted economies in the world,we have the most state owned companies in the world and many private sectors are held by monopolies.How the fuck is a place like this going to prosper?

 

[Toby D. Dog]

nope,that is a hoax too.Many Cuban doctors came to Brazil to work and most of them did bad in the tests regarding professional qualification.

Man, it's just anecdotes with you isn't it? Empirical data means nothing I guess.

 

[NAMELESS]

Man, it's just anecdotes with you isn't it? Empirical data means nothing I guess.

So public test results are not empirical data?The Cuban doctors that came over here to work were incompetent.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

So public test results are not empirical data?The Cuban doctors that came over here to work were incompetent.

You can play the whataboutit game all you want, doesn't change that their healthcare service is among the best in the western hemisphere despite their small economy and lack of recourses.

 

[NAMELESS]

Listen, I'm not a big fan of cuba and their undemocratic political system. But just so you guys know, despite having everything stacked against them, they still managed to have the best healthcare system in Latin America in regards to quality and service.

https://www.foxnews.com/health/once-renowned-cuban-doctors-are-failing-their-medical-exams-in-droves
https://www.bmj.com/content/363/bmj.k4860

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You can play the whataboutit game all you want, doesn't change that their healthcare service is among the best in the western hemisphere despite their small economy and lack of recourses.

lol yeah,there is no one starving in Cuba either.I will respect you denial phase and leave you alone for now.Time to hit bed for me.