Powers & Abilities Zoro dominates

#61
Fuck. Think about domination. Zoro is so ahuenen that being half-dead and before receiving the most powerful ap in the form of acoc + ryoo, he looks much better against yonko (1 vs 1) than the CURRENT AWAKENED Lol + Mid post vano. Put the King of Hell Zoro against Kaido and he will not leave without a high diff.
That was his haki bloom moment. The only time he pulled out Acoc, an ability he never displayed before. It’s his absolute strongest attack. Only reason that happened was because he put everything he had into 1 attack. So yes if I were to rank his strongest attacks that would be among the top. So regardless of his condition, that still the best thing he could pull out on the rooftop. Attack power is not everything. He’d still be outclassed in other areas. Yonko tend to excel in everything. Which is why i said skill sets.
 
#64
That was his haki bloom moment. The only time he pulled out Acoc, an ability he never displayed before. It’s his absolute strongest attack. Only reason that happened was because he put everything he had into 1 attack. So yes if I were to rank his strongest attacks that would be among the top. So regardless of his condition, that still the best thing he could pull out on the rooftop. Attack power is not everything. He’d still be outclassed in other areas. Yonko tend to excel in everything. Which is why i said skill sets.
Nope. Zoro pulled out the acoc with only King (black lightning bolts). In the case of Kaido, he awakened a simple coc. Otherwise, he is the only genius who immediately awakened acoc bypassing coc. And he only had ruoo on one blade. After the fight with King, yes, acoc and ryoo on nine blades.
And yes. At the moment, Zoro will lose to yonko 1 on 1. I'm not arguing. But this does not prevent him from being stronger than Kid and Lo.
 
#65
That was his haki bloom moment. The only time he pulled out Acoc, an ability he never displayed before. It’s his absolute strongest attack. Only reason that happened was because he put everything he had into 1 attack. So yes if I were to rank his strongest attacks that would be among the top. So regardless of his condition, that still the best thing he could pull out on the rooftop. Attack power is not everything. He’d still be outclassed in other areas. Yonko tend to excel in everything. Which is why i said skill sets.
Zoro strongest attack at 25% is still only at 25% power. Zoro was in poor condition when he used Dead Man's Game that affected his attack power.

It really doesn't matter if you believe Zoro used ACoC on the rooftop or not because he grew stronger again King. During his battle against King, Zoro was using greater amounts of CoA and ACoC and stronger attacks.

ACoC was the only reason Luffy started to match Kaido and was recognized as a worthy opponent. In the end, Luffy beat Kaido because of the strength of his attack.
 
#66
Zoro was always superior to Useless "Former Captain" Midd & Low.

AdCoC >>>>>>> Bumass awakening
Kid and Law’s Awakenings only look strong because they can do a lot of damage.

But they’re not that useful in a battle. Law’s Kroom can be negated by haki. We saw how Teach was able to clash with it and it didn’t just pass through him the second time Law used it.

Kroom and Assign are basically useless against strong haki users for this exact reason. Especially people with good combat skills who aren’t punching bags like Fat Mom
 

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#67
Kid and Law’s Awakenings only look strong because they can do a lot of damage.

But they’re not that useful in a battle. Law’s Kroom can be negated by haki. We saw how Teach was able to clash with it and it didn’t just pass through him the second time Law used it.

Kroom and Assign are basically useless against strong haki users for this exact reason. Especially people with good combat skills who aren’t punching bags like Fat Mom
Man, you've changed a lot. I almost feel proud.
 
#69
Zoro strongest attack at 25% is still only at 25% power. Zoro was in poor condition when he used Dead Man's Game that affected his attack power.

It really doesn't matter if you believe Zoro used ACoC on the rooftop or not because he grew stronger again King. During his battle against King, Zoro was using greater amounts of CoA and ACoC and stronger attacks.

ACoC was the only reason Luffy started to match Kaido and was recognized as a worthy opponent. In the end, Luffy beat Kaido because of the strength of his attack.
You don't necessarily grow stronger against a weaker opponent. The only difference between rooftop Zoro vs KoH Zoro is his ability to draw from Acoc at will as opposed to by luck. Also the version of Zoro that used Asura on Kaido and the version that fought King had the exact same mind set. To release all his power without restraint. They're essentially the same thing.

Acoc wasn't the only thing Luffy needed to beat Kaido. Otherwise the fight would have ended right after Luffy learnt the technique.
He went through multiple power ups including gaining mastery over his conqueror coating until he could match Kaido completely. Even before the fight Luffy had FS which Zoro does not have. Kaido also had it too along with a bunch of other things he had held back until Luffy forced him to get serious.

Zoro is lucky he never had to deal with Thunder Bagua or any of Kaido's signature attacks apart from his aoe attack. He's also never fought someone who has used Acoc. So he's behind on a number of things.
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Nope. Zoro pulled out the acoc with only King (black lightning bolts). In the case of Kaido, he awakened a simple coc. Otherwise, he is the only genius who immediately awakened acoc bypassing coc. And he only had ruoo on one blade. After the fight with King, yes, acoc and ryoo on nine blades.
And yes. At the moment, Zoro will lose to yonko 1 on 1. I'm not arguing. But this does not prevent him from being stronger than Kid and Lo.
There is only one version of CoC used in attacks and that's Conquerors coating. There is no other version.
 
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#70
Kid and Law’s Awakenings only look strong because they can do a lot of damage.

But they’re not that useful in a battle. Law’s Kroom can be negated by haki. We saw how Teach was able to clash with it and it didn’t just pass through him the second time Law used it.

Kroom and Assign are basically useless against strong haki users for this exact reason. Especially people with good combat skills who aren’t punching bags like Fat Mom
The only reason they looked good, was because they were tag teaming 1 nerfed yonko. 1v1 against her, even nerfed, & she would've killed them. Just like she nearly did in the Manga
 
#71
You think Shiryu is > Law or Kidd individually?
He probably was above post wano kid and law even back on ID. He's known for blitzing people so he's fast af. He's also been a hakiman and pure swordsman so at least his CoA must be crazy powerful. Note you'd need at least adv CoA barrier to defend yourself against Magellan's poison.

The speed part already disqualifies kid.
And top speed and top CoA disqualifies law.

If Oda gifts him with CoC too it's sealed completely.
 
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There is only one version of CoC used in attacks and that's Conquerors coating. There is no other version.
No. When Luffy awakened acoc in this chapter we saw black lightning coming from the hand, in the same chapter and in 1009 we saw black lightning coming from the club of kaido. Zoro didn't have acoc at that moment. There was an outbreak of coc. Acoc appeared precisely in chapter 1033. .
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zoro's strongest attack received a compliment from kaido while those guys really put fear and anger on a yonko :endthis:
Bombs>>>All attempts Lol +Mid
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The only reason they looked good, was because they were tag teaming 1 nerfed yonko. 1v1 against her, even nerfed, & she would've killed them. Just like she nearly did in the Manga
I wouldn't even say they looked good. Lol was constantly hitting in the back, and mil was a punching bag. And in the end, they somehow threw her off the island and she accidentally hooked bombs. That's all. When these two clowns met without all that 1 vs 1 shit with yonko, they were easily destroyed.
 
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#75
He probably was above post wano kid and law even back on ID. He's known for blitzing people so he's fast af. He's also been a hakiman and pure swordsman so at least his CoA must be crazy powerful. Note you'd need at least adv CoA barrier to defend yourself against Magellan's poison.

The speed part already disqualifies kid.
And top speed and top CoA disqualifies law.

If Oda gifts him with CoC too it's sealed completely.
Your argument actually makes sense. Fair enough. :cheers:
 
#78
You don't necessarily grow stronger against a weaker opponent. The only difference between rooftop Zoro vs KoH Zoro is his ability to draw from Acoc at will as opposed to by luck. Also the version of Zoro that used Asura on Kaido and the version that fought King had the exact same mind set. To release all his power without restraint. They're essentially the same thing.

Acoc wasn't the only thing Luffy needed to beat Kaido. Otherwise the fight would have ended right after Luffy learnt the technique.
He went through multiple power ups including gaining mastery over his conqueror coating until he could match Kaido completely. Even before the fight Luffy had FS which Zoro does not have. Kaido also had it too along with a bunch of other things he had held back until Luffy forced him to get serious.

Zoro is lucky he never had to deal with Thunder Bagua or any of Kaido's signature attacks apart from his aoe attack. He's also never fought someone who has used Acoc. So he's behind on a number of things.
Zoro don't have to face an opponent stronger than him to grow stronger. Not all of Zoro's previous opponents were stronger than him. Zoro can grow stronger from fighting weaker opponents as long has they provide him an obstacle he must overcome or show him a weakness he must remove.

Braham wasn't stronger than Zoro. Yet, Zoro grew stronger from their battle. Zoro obtained flying slashes from their battle.

There's a huge difference between rooftop Zoro and KoH Zoro. Zoro had two major growths during Wano war just like Luffy. Zoro obtained ACoC and Enma mastery. While Luffy obtained ACoC and awakening. The main reason Kaido acknowledged Luffy's strength and saw him as a worthy opponent was because of ACoC, not his awakening. Just like Luffy, Zoro gained mastery over ACoC.

Even FS was pretty useless against Kaido. It barely tickled him. Only the trajectory of Luffy's Snakeman attacks was troublesome. Luffy won because of the strength of his attack.

KoH isn't just ACoC. It's ACoC combined with overwhelming amounts of CoA haki. It was because Zoro learned to fully control enma he was able he obtained the power to release and control larger and stronger amounts of CoA haki. Stronger/larger haki equals to stronger offensive and defensive power. Zoro's haki power on the rooftop was strong and troublesome against 2 Yonkos.

Zoro mindset changed against King. Zoro acknowledged he couldn't full control enma because of his own weakness. He remembered his promise to his best friend and captain to become the WSS and stopped worrying about using up too much haki with enma. That was when truly awaken him CoC and King saw him as a King (King of conqueror).

Kaido attacked Zoro with TB and it failed to knock Zoro out even though he was already in poor condition with 20 to 30 broken bones.

What about those other things Kaido has? You don't seem to understand KoH is not rooftop Zoro who already have the power to block hakai and scar Kaido in a poor condition. This is a Zoro who mastered a sword only Oden could master. Who obtained the exact same power that Oden used to scar Kaido, almost 2 shot, and place him on the same pedestal as Roger, WB and more. Who has grown stronger since Wano. We still haven't seen how powerful Zoro's high end attacks are with KoH or dragon style.
 
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