Controversial General Political Discussion

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

They have been christian for over 2000 years.Very few native europpeans will become muslim,this might escalate into something similar to the reconquista war if people get radicalized.This is one big problem people are pretending not to see.

Europe have better chance of going Pagan again tbh.

Even average White Nationalist clearly have no appetite for Christianity. And not even talking about the French yett who have strong laïcité culture.Muslims too divided on secterianisms and ethnicity and not counting the booming apostasy rate from them too and thus have no way to hold any real leverage on realpolitik. Immigrants always at the mercy of the government


Society in 50+ years will be a lot different and will be a lot more militarized and thus upholding current status Quo and the current political technology thus any tangible change is unlikely



Reconquista is a lot more nuanced than people like to think.

 

[Bob74h]

Modern states don't impose religions.You are missing the point.The left wants to mess with religion.They are calling christians homophobic and saying priests should perfom gay marriages.

If the priests want too and the gay men involved agree to it
There should be no issue

And yea can see why forcing a priest to do a gay marriage would be bad but that does not mean that all gay marriages should be banned just because of some not being fair for the priest in question

there's two sides to this though, If you think of it as a job then it be argued as discrimination and therefore it would be in the priest's interest to perform else lose his job for discriminating

not saying that this has to be true or right just saying that it's a argument that can be had
you are making things way more black and white then they realistically are

 

[NAMELESS]

Europe have better chance of going Pagan again tbh.

Even average White Nationalist clearly have no appetite for Christianity. And not even talking about the French yett who have strong laïcité culture.Muslims too divided on secterianisms and ethnicity and not counting the booming apostasy rate from them too and thus have no way to hold any real leverage on realpolitik. Immigrants always at the mercy of the government


Society in 50+ years will be a lot different and will be a lot more militarized and thus upholding current status Quo and the current political technology thus any tangible change is unlikely



Reconquista is a lot more nuanced than people like to think.

yeah,but they are certainly mindful about the ethnic issue.

 

[Bob74h]

Btw did you hear about the drama surrounding about mr beast
and right wingers getting mad that his trans friend stays on the youtube channel

Thought the whole thing was dumb and desperate tbh
like getting mad about the transgender girl on bub light

Right wing getting as petty as the left wing these days

 

[NAMELESS]

If the priests want too and the gay men involved agree to it
There should be no issue

And yea can see why forcing a priest to do a gay marriage would be bad but that does not mean that all gay marriages should be banned just because of some not being fair for the priest in question

there's two sides to this though, If you think of it as a job then it be argued as discrimination and therefore it would be in the priest's interest to perform else lose his job for discriminating

not saying that this has to be true or right just saying that it's a argument that can be had
you are making things way more black and white then they realistically are

The catholic church allows NO priests to perform such marriages.If one does so,he is automatically excommunicated.I didn't say anything about banning gay marriages,i said leave religion to do its own thing.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...51ee80-8581-11eb-be4a-24b89f616f2c_story.html

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Btw did you hear about the drama surrounding about mr beast
and right wingers getting mad that his trans friend stays on the youtube channel

Thought the whole thing was dumb and desperate tbh
like getting mad about the transgender girl on bub light

Right wing getting as petty as the left wing these days

i don't watch this kind of content on youtube

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If the priests want too and the gay men involved agree to it
There should be no issue

And yea can see why forcing a priest to do a gay marriage would be bad but that does not mean that all gay marriages should be banned just because of some not being fair for the priest in question

there's two sides to this though, If you think of it as a job then it be argued as discrimination and therefore it would be in the priest's interest to perform else lose his job for discriminating

not saying that this has to be true or right just saying that it's a argument that can be had
you are making things way more black and white then they realistically are

Religion is a private thing.No state should be dictating what is licit for religious institutions to preach or not.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Yeah no shit by why is a man who raaped a women can go into a women's jail full of women just because he said he is one

I highly doubt that's the standard they use in determining a prisoner's gender or what prison they will be sent to.

 

[NAMELESS]

Europe have better chance of going Pagan again tbh.

Even average White Nationalist clearly have no appetite for Christianity. And not even talking about the French yett who have strong laïcité culture.Muslims too divided on secterianisms and ethnicity and not counting the booming apostasy rate from them too and thus have no way to hold any real leverage on realpolitik. Immigrants always at the mercy of the government


Society in 50+ years will be a lot different and will be a lot more militarized and thus upholding current status Quo and the current political technology thus any tangible change is unlikely



Reconquista is a lot more nuanced than people like to think.

fair points.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

I highly doubt that's the standard they use in determining a prisoner's gender or what prison they will be sent to.

It's definitely not

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

yeah,but they are certainly mindful about the ethnic issue.

The Neo-Pagan movement is more of ethnic supremacism and worshipping ancestors, rather than any organized beliefs or Rituals and so far its growing in popularity in Europe

 

[Monkey D Theories]

But regarding sending transwomen to women's prisons, I see no issue with it.

Its a prison. The people in prison tend to be dangerous violent criminals. This is as true for women's prisons as it is for men's prisons.

Some trans prisoners, especially those who have physically transitioned via surgery and HRT, might be significantly safer in a women's prison than a men's prison. For example, do you really think a person like, idk, Blair White, should be put in a men's prison? What do you think would happen to transwomen like that if they are put in a men's prison. I think you know the answer.

Obviously, there is a degree of prudence required in determining which prisoner to put in which prison, but I don't think this is a decision that the government is incapable of making.

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Btw did you hear about the drama surrounding about mr beast
and right wingers getting mad that his trans friend stays on the youtube channel

Thought the whole thing was dumb and desperate tbh
like getting mad about the transgender girl on bub light

Right wing getting as petty as the left wing these days

I don't see how you can "both sides" this issue. One side, the right, clearly has issues with the mere existence of trans people. The other doesn't.

There's no two sides to this. Trans people are valid, and people who feel uncomfortable by the mere presence of trans people are transphobic.

 

[NAMELESS]

The Neo-Pagan movement is more of ethnic supremacism and worshipping ancestors, rather than any organized beliefs or Rituals and so far its growing in popularity in Europe

I have a friend living in England,the dude bought a snake.Now he says he has visions about snakes,prays to dragons and talks a lot about mysticism and stuff.

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But regarding sending transwomen to women's prisons, I see no issue with it.

Its a prison. The people in prison tend to be dangerous violent criminals. This is as true for women's prisons as it is for men's prisons.

Some trans prisoners, especially those who have physically transitioned via surgery and HRT, might be significantly safer in a women's prison than a men's prison. For example, do you really think a person like, idk, Blair White, should be put in a men's prison? What do you think would happen to transwomen like that if they are put in a men's prison. I think you know the answer.

Obviously, there is a degree of prudence required in determining which prisoner to put in which prison, but I don't think this is a decision that the government is incapable of making.

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I don't see how you can "both sides" this issue. One side, the right, clearly has issues with the mere existence of trans people. The other doesn't.

There's no two sides to this. Trans people are valid, and people who feel uncomfortable by the mere presence of trans people are transphobic.

I don't like to see heterosexual people french kissing in front of me.Am i heterophobic?

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

I'm pretty sure you need the sex change to get into the prison of the gender you identify with.

At least that's how it works now.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

The problem is left wingers want to mess with RELIGIOUS marriage.They want to force the christian doctrine to change.Gay marriage should be allowed in civil marriage.

That's something I don't get either

As a gay person, why would you want to be a Catholic? Why need a Catholic church wedding ceremony in a church?
Why try to fix an inherently broken religion?
Just abandon it and be done with it.
Abandoning Catholicism≠abandoning Jesus

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

That's something I don't get either

As a gay person, why would you want to be a Catholic? Why need a Catholic church wedding ceremony in a church?
Why try to fix an inherently broken religion?
Just abandon it and be done with it.
Abandoning Catholicism≠abandoning Jesus

Identity crisis.

Catholicism in many cases is an heritage.

He identify Gay but also Catholic.
He feel guilty.

He need the Church and Pope approval to remove the guilt

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

The Neo-Pagan movement is more of ethnic supremacism and worshipping ancestors, rather than any organized beliefs or Rituals and so far its growing in popularity in Europe

Maybe the more vocal ones.
Labelling all neo pagans as right wingers or ethnic supremacists is a very persistent stereotype but it's no good to generalise here.

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But regarding sending transwomen to women's prisons, I see no issue with it.

Its a prison. The people in prison tend to be dangerous violent criminals. This is as true for women's prisons as it is for men's prisons.

Some trans prisoners, especially those who have physically transitioned via surgery and HRT, might be significantly safer in a women's prison than a men's prison. For example, do you really think a person like, idk, Blair White, should be put in a men's prison? What do you think would happen to transwomen like that if they are put in a men's prison. I think you know the answer.

Obviously, there is a degree of prudence required in determining which prisoner to put in which prison, but I don't think this is a decision that the government is incapable of making.

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I don't see how you can "both sides" this issue. One side, the right, clearly has issues with the mere existence of trans people. The other doesn't.

There's no two sides to this. Trans people are valid, and people who feel uncomfortable by the mere presence of trans people are transphobic.

I mean all prisons have sexual violence
I really don't like how transphobes are making this issue about transitioning

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I have a friend living in England,the dude bought a snake.Now he says he has visions about snakes,prays to dragons and talks a lot about mysticism and stuff.

Sounds like occultism
In what way is occultism related to paganism!?

 

[NAMELESS]

That's something I don't get either

As a gay person, why would you want to be a Catholic? Why need a Catholic church wedding ceremony in a church?
Why try to fix an inherently broken religion?
Just abandon it and be done with it.
Abandoning Catholicism≠abandoning Jesus

Matthew 16:18
Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah! For this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by My Father in heaven. 18And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it. 19I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”…
The Catholic Church is the real church of Jesus.God loves the sinner,but hates sin.Jesus welcomes gay people too.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Identity crisis.

Catholicism in many cases is an heritage.

He identify Gay but also Catholic.
He feel guilty.

He need the Church and Pope approval to remove the guilt

Wow sometimes you're posting such damn intelligent answers. Unironically.
Catholicism DESTROYED us.

 

[NAMELESS]

Maybe the more vocal ones.
Labelling all neo pagans as right wingers or ethnic supremacists is a very persistent stereotype but it's no good to generalise here.

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I mean all prisons gave sexual violence
I really don't like how transphobes are making this issue about transitioning

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Sounds like occultism
In what way is occultism related to paganism!?

many pagan religions have practices like these.

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Wow sometimes you're posting such damn intelligent answers. Unironically.
Catholicism DESTROYED us.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

many pagan religions have practices like these.

Oh god

I can already smell the paganism shaming arriving to this thread

"Pagans perform obscure and scary rituals"
"Pagans advocate for blood sacrifices"


This bullshit is sooo old, I cant believe that paganism hating people still use the same stupid arguments as they have done for centuries

 

[NAMELESS]

Oh god

I can already smell the paganism shaming arriving to this thread

"Pagans perform obscure and scary rituals"
"Pagans advocate for blood sacrifices"


This bullshit is sooo old, I cant believe that paganism hating people still use the same stupid arguments as they have for centuries

who said that?there you go with baiting again.Shame on you.