Powers & Abilities Let’s Settle this: Will Oda Give Sanji Conquerors Haki?
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He most likely won't get it.
Sanji fans are setting themselves up for disappointment like usual.
If oda wanted to give him CoC then why not in WCI or wano?
Why no haki training for him like zoro and luffy?
Don't understand why sanji fans think oda will give him Adcoc when he hasn't even portrayed sanji getting trained for haki since TS
His dream isn't to reach to the top like luffy and zoro so he doesn't need to follow their foot steps.
Oda can make him strong even by using path of science and this is the route he is taking because this ties him with Germa plot as well.
And, if and I say if by any chance oda does give him then it won't be before SHs vs BBP because both Luffy and Zoro unlocked it during major arc. And, if he doesn't get even in that fight then he will never get it
Sanji fans are setting themselves up for disappointment like usual.
If oda wanted to give him CoC then why not in WCI or wano?
Why no haki training for him like zoro and luffy?
Don't understand why sanji fans think oda will give him Adcoc when he hasn't even portrayed sanji getting trained for haki since TS
His dream isn't to reach to the top like luffy and zoro so he doesn't need to follow their foot steps.
Oda can make him strong even by using path of science and this is the route he is taking because this ties him with Germa plot as well.
And, if and I say if by any chance oda does give him then it won't be before SHs vs BBP because both Luffy and Zoro unlocked it during major arc. And, if he doesn't get even in that fight then he will never get it
Nope. He has no conqueror traits, he has no wish to be at the top, he switches his dream few times in a series.
And those who say that every top tier has AdCoC, so Sanji will have it too. Of course conquerors sit at the top of the verse, it's in their fucking blood to get there. Doesn't mean that every top tier has it. Teach is yet to show it, Admirals are yet to show it. He can be strong without it.
And those who say that every top tier has AdCoC, so Sanji will have it too. Of course conquerors sit at the top of the verse, it's in their fucking blood to get there. Doesn't mean that every top tier has it. Teach is yet to show it, Admirals are yet to show it. He can be strong without it.
Looks at Koby
Realistically every Strawhat has at least 1 CoC trait
They all have insane willpower, some are natural leaders (Franky, Brook, etc), and some have the lineage (Sanji)
It isn’t a leap for any of them to awaken CoC imo especially since Koby’s unlocking it
You’re telling me Koby, who was afraid to run away from Alvida, has CoC instead of someone like Franky who jumped in front of a moving train to save Tom?
Realistically every Strawhat has at least 1 CoC trait
They all have insane willpower, some are natural leaders (Franky, Brook, etc), and some have the lineage (Sanji)
It isn’t a leap for any of them to awaken CoC imo especially since Koby’s unlocking it
You’re telling me Koby, who was afraid to run away from Alvida, has CoC instead of someone like Franky who jumped in front of a moving train to save Tom?
It's pretty ironic that the same people that say they hate the whole destiny narrative in OP and will say they don't want any special lineage etc. for their favs are the same ones that will say that only those that have CoC can stand at the top of the verse, when we know that CoC is something that you're a born with and not something you can develop 💀
Anyways, personally I don't really subscribe to the notion that a lack of CoC implies that one cannot reach the upper echelons of strength in the verse as I personally doubt that all of the top tiers are CoC users. Also, there is the Captain Trio example where Law doesn't have CoC but is comparable to the other two and arguably stronger than Kidd who has CoC, same Law many on here touted would become one of the very strongest in the verse EoS prior to his fall to Blackbeard. Moreover, Sanji not having CoC will not stunt his growth in comparison to the Luffy and Zoro strength wise as Oda will always give Sanji and equivalent PU to those two so from that perspective, Sanji doesn't have to have it.
All that said however, I'm not Oda, if Oda believes that CoC is a pre-requisite for those those that stand in the upper echelons of the verse to have then Sanji will have it as he's of that mold imo. Sanji is not only the 3rd strongest straw hat but is also part of the monster trio dynamic and is stated to be one of the wings of the future Pirate King (i.e. Luffy) along side Zoro so he has the potential to be in the upper echelons of the verse come EoS.
There's also the fact that Luffy's crew is special and will most likely achieve what no other Pirate Crew before them has making them the greatest crew in the verse surpassing the likes of the Rocks Pirates and even the Roger Pirates. These two crews had more than 2 confirmed CoC users, which might simply be a coincidence but if it is by design then it makes sense for the SHs to also have more than 2 CoC users, in which case, Sanji will also have it.
Lastly I'm not sure really sure why folks are saying it's too late in the series for Sanji to manifest it, when It took Zoro 1000+ chapters to actually manifest his (i.e. this was 500+ chapters after Luffy manifested CoC)💀. Then there's WCI argument of Sanji having his own arc etc. I could get into why I think it wouldn't have made sense for Sanji to have manifested CoC on WCI but I can't be arsed to
. All I'll say tho is that Zoro didn't require a personal arc to manifest his so I don't see why Sanji needs one to do so.
Anyways, personally I don't really subscribe to the notion that a lack of CoC implies that one cannot reach the upper echelons of strength in the verse as I personally doubt that all of the top tiers are CoC users. Also, there is the Captain Trio example where Law doesn't have CoC but is comparable to the other two and arguably stronger than Kidd who has CoC, same Law many on here touted would become one of the very strongest in the verse EoS prior to his fall to Blackbeard. Moreover, Sanji not having CoC will not stunt his growth in comparison to the Luffy and Zoro strength wise as Oda will always give Sanji and equivalent PU to those two so from that perspective, Sanji doesn't have to have it.
All that said however, I'm not Oda, if Oda believes that CoC is a pre-requisite for those those that stand in the upper echelons of the verse to have then Sanji will have it as he's of that mold imo. Sanji is not only the 3rd strongest straw hat but is also part of the monster trio dynamic and is stated to be one of the wings of the future Pirate King (i.e. Luffy) along side Zoro so he has the potential to be in the upper echelons of the verse come EoS.
There's also the fact that Luffy's crew is special and will most likely achieve what no other Pirate Crew before them has making them the greatest crew in the verse surpassing the likes of the Rocks Pirates and even the Roger Pirates. These two crews had more than 2 confirmed CoC users, which might simply be a coincidence but if it is by design then it makes sense for the SHs to also have more than 2 CoC users, in which case, Sanji will also have it.
Lastly I'm not sure really sure why folks are saying it's too late in the series for Sanji to manifest it, when It took Zoro 1000+ chapters to actually manifest his (i.e. this was 500+ chapters after Luffy manifested CoC)💀. Then there's WCI argument of Sanji having his own arc etc. I could get into why I think it wouldn't have made sense for Sanji to have manifested CoC on WCI but I can't be arsed to
. All I'll say tho is that Zoro didn't require a personal arc to manifest his so I don't see why Sanji needs one to do so.
It's pretty ironic that the same people that say they hate the whole destiny narrative in OP and will say they don't want any special lineage etc. for their favs are the same ones that will say that only those that have CoC can stand at the top of the verse, when we know that CoC is something that you're a born with and not something you can develop 💀
Anyways, personally I don't really subscribe to the notion that a lack of CoC implies that one cannot reach the upper echelons of strength in the verse as I personally doubt that all of the top tiers are CoC users. Also, there is the Captain Trio example where Law doesn't have CoC but is comparable to the other two and arguably stronger than Kidd who has CoC, same Law many on here touted would become one of the very strongest in the verse EoS prior to his fall to Blackbeard. Moreover, Sanji not having CoC will not stunt his growth in comparison to the Luffy and Zoro strength wise as Oda will always give Sanji and equivalent PU to those two so from that perspective, Sanji doesn't have to have it.
All that said however, I'm not Oda, if Oda believes that CoC is a pre-requisite for those those that stand in the upper echelons of the verse to have then Sanji will have it as he's of that mold imo. Sanji is not only the 3rd strongest straw hat but is also part of the monster trio dynamic and is stated to be one of the wings of the future Pirate King (i.e. Luffy) along side Zoro so he has the potential to be in the upper echelons of the verse come EoS.
There's also the fact that Luffy's crew is special and will most likely achieve what no other Pirate Crew before them has making them the greatest crew in the verse surpassing the likes of the Rocks Pirates and even the Roger Pirates. These two crews had more than 2 confirmed CoC users, which might simply be a coincidence but if it is by design then it makes sense for the SHs to also have more than 2 CoC users, in which case, Sanji will also have it.
Lastly I'm not sure really sure why folks are saying it's too late in the series for Sanji to manifest it, when It took Zoro 1000+ chapters to actually manifest his (i.e. this was 500+ chapters after Luffy manifested CoC)💀. Then there's WCI argument of Sanji having his own arc etc. I could get into why I think it wouldn't have made sense for Sanji to have manifested CoC on WCI but I can't be arsed to. All I'll say tho is that Zoro didn't require a personal arc to manifest his so I don't see why Sanji needs one to do so.
Anyways, personally I don't really subscribe to the notion that a lack of CoC implies that one cannot reach the upper echelons of strength in the verse as I personally doubt that all of the top tiers are CoC users. Also, there is the Captain Trio example where Law doesn't have CoC but is comparable to the other two and arguably stronger than Kidd who has CoC, same Law many on here touted would become one of the very strongest in the verse EoS prior to his fall to Blackbeard. Moreover, Sanji not having CoC will not stunt his growth in comparison to the Luffy and Zoro strength wise as Oda will always give Sanji and equivalent PU to those two so from that perspective, Sanji doesn't have to have it.
All that said however, I'm not Oda, if Oda believes that CoC is a pre-requisite for those those that stand in the upper echelons of the verse to have then Sanji will have it as he's of that mold imo. Sanji is not only the 3rd strongest straw hat but is also part of the monster trio dynamic and is stated to be one of the wings of the future Pirate King (i.e. Luffy) along side Zoro so he has the potential to be in the upper echelons of the verse come EoS.
There's also the fact that Luffy's crew is special and will most likely achieve what no other Pirate Crew before them has making them the greatest crew in the verse surpassing the likes of the Rocks Pirates and even the Roger Pirates. These two crews had more than 2 confirmed CoC users, which might simply be a coincidence but if it is by design then it makes sense for the SHs to also have more than 2 CoC users, in which case, Sanji will also have it.
Lastly I'm not sure really sure why folks are saying it's too late in the series for Sanji to manifest it, when It took Zoro 1000+ chapters to actually manifest his (i.e. this was 500+ chapters after Luffy manifested CoC)💀. Then there's WCI argument of Sanji having his own arc etc. I could get into why I think it wouldn't have made sense for Sanji to have manifested CoC on WCI but I can't be arsed to
. All I'll say tho is that Zoro didn't require a personal arc to manifest his so I don't see why Sanji needs one to do so.
Kid yes, Luffy no.
It's pretty ironic that the same people that say they hate the whole destiny narrative in OP and will say they don't want any special lineage etc. for their favs are the same ones that will say that only those that have CoC can stand at the top of the verse, when we know that CoC is something that you're a born with and not something you can develop 💀
Anyways, personally I don't really subscribe to the notion that a lack of CoC implies that one cannot reach the upper echelons of strength in the verse as I personally doubt that all of the top tiers are CoC users. Also, there is the Captain Trio example where Law doesn't have CoC but is comparable to the other two and arguably stronger than Kidd who has CoC, same Law many on here touted would become one of the very strongest in the verse EoS prior to his fall to Blackbeard. Moreover, Sanji not having CoC will not stunt his growth in comparison to the Luffy and Zoro strength wise as Oda will always give Sanji and equivalent PU to those two so from that perspective, Sanji doesn't have to have it.
All that said however, I'm not Oda, if Oda believes that CoC is a pre-requisite for those those that stand in the upper echelons of the verse to have then Sanji will have it as he's of that mold imo. Sanji is not only the 3rd strongest straw hat but is also part of the monster trio dynamic and is stated to be one of the wings of the future Pirate King (i.e. Luffy) along side Zoro so he has the potential to be in the upper echelons of the verse come EoS.
There's also the fact that Luffy's crew is special and will most likely achieve what no other Pirate Crew before them has making them the greatest crew in the verse surpassing the likes of the Rocks Pirates and even the Roger Pirates. These two crews had more than 2 confirmed CoC users, which might simply be a coincidence but if it is by design then it makes sense for the SHs to also have more than 2 CoC users, in which case, Sanji will also have it.
Lastly I'm not sure really sure why folks are saying it's too late in the series for Sanji to manifest it, when It took Zoro 1000+ chapters to actually manifest his (i.e. this was 500+ chapters after Luffy manifested CoC)💀. Then there's WCI argument of Sanji having his own arc etc. I could get into why I think it wouldn't have made sense for Sanji to have manifested CoC on WCI but I can't be arsed to. All I'll say tho is that Zoro didn't require a personal arc to manifest his so I don't see why Sanji needs one to do so.
Anyways, personally I don't really subscribe to the notion that a lack of CoC implies that one cannot reach the upper echelons of strength in the verse as I personally doubt that all of the top tiers are CoC users. Also, there is the Captain Trio example where Law doesn't have CoC but is comparable to the other two and arguably stronger than Kidd who has CoC, same Law many on here touted would become one of the very strongest in the verse EoS prior to his fall to Blackbeard. Moreover, Sanji not having CoC will not stunt his growth in comparison to the Luffy and Zoro strength wise as Oda will always give Sanji and equivalent PU to those two so from that perspective, Sanji doesn't have to have it.
All that said however, I'm not Oda, if Oda believes that CoC is a pre-requisite for those those that stand in the upper echelons of the verse to have then Sanji will have it as he's of that mold imo. Sanji is not only the 3rd strongest straw hat but is also part of the monster trio dynamic and is stated to be one of the wings of the future Pirate King (i.e. Luffy) along side Zoro so he has the potential to be in the upper echelons of the verse come EoS.
There's also the fact that Luffy's crew is special and will most likely achieve what no other Pirate Crew before them has making them the greatest crew in the verse surpassing the likes of the Rocks Pirates and even the Roger Pirates. These two crews had more than 2 confirmed CoC users, which might simply be a coincidence but if it is by design then it makes sense for the SHs to also have more than 2 CoC users, in which case, Sanji will also have it.
Lastly I'm not sure really sure why folks are saying it's too late in the series for Sanji to manifest it, when It took Zoro 1000+ chapters to actually manifest his (i.e. this was 500+ chapters after Luffy manifested CoC)💀. Then there's WCI argument of Sanji having his own arc etc. I could get into why I think it wouldn't have made sense for Sanji to have manifested CoC on WCI but I can't be arsed to
. All I'll say tho is that Zoro didn't require a personal arc to manifest his so I don't see why Sanji needs one to do so.
For now Oda is going with the science PU/dna stuff for sanji.
It always seems weird to me Zoro would be the only other COC user in the crew, considering I would expect Oda to wank Luffy by having him lead multiple COC users like Rocks did
BUT we're in the final saga and there's stilll no hint of Sanji having it, even Usopp and Nami got gag hints, but Sanji nothing. For Zoro we had hints about his "aura" for a certain time already.
I won't say the chances are 0% but it's below 50% imo. Wouldn't be shocked if he has it though
BUT we're in the final saga and there's stilll no hint of Sanji having it, even Usopp and Nami got gag hints, but Sanji nothing. For Zoro we had hints about his "aura" for a certain time already.
I won't say the chances are 0% but it's below 50% imo. Wouldn't be shocked if he has it though
I don't care for coc but some of the arguments people come up with against coc is straight up dumb. "He doesn't have the proper willpower, dream, family etc". People with all sorts of origins and dreams have coc, there is no pattern. One Piece is the damn bible to some people and they're willfully ignorant of the dozens of counter examples to appease the agenda.
