General & Others What are your Unpopular Naruto Opinions?

[ZenZu]

-Tsunade caps around part 1 Kabuto level as an overall fighter, makes up for it by being a broken medic.
-Kisame is a glorified punching bag who was so insignificant that Gai never remembered him.
-Konan was only in the akatsuki due to her relationship with Nagato, they would never go out of their way to recruit her, she's not strong enough to hunt Bijuu.
-Obito's usage of the rinnegan is dogshit.
-Tobirama is the weakest of the dead Kage, he got his ass handed to him by Kinkaku.
-Hiruzen is the biggest fraud in the series. Prime Hiruzen is a complete myth.
-Obito is a Kamui merchant who is inferior to Kakashi in skill.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

-Tsunade caps around part 1 Kabuto level as an overall fighter, makes up for it by being a broken medic.
-Kisame is a glorified punching bag who was so insignificant that Gai never remembered him.
-Konan was only in the akatsuki due to her relationship with Nagato, they would never go out of their way to recruit her, she's not strong enough to hunt Bijuu.
-Obito's usage of the rinnegan is dogshit.
-Tobirama is the weakest of the dead Kage, he got his ass handed to him by Kinkaku.

Gonna have to try a little harder to bait me Toshi.

 

[ZenZu]

Gonna have to try a little harder to bait me Toshi.

Everything I said was facts, might hurt some people though. Btw I love Kisame, just an objective observation of what he essentially was throughout the series.

I'm still going too, I'll continue editing in more cold hard facts.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Everything I said was facts, might hurt some people though. Btw I love Kisame, just an objective observation of what he essentially was throughout the series.

I'm still going too, I'll continue editing in more cold hard facts.

Tbh it's poor reading comprehension than anything, considering Gai remembers Kisame for his selfless actions by the end of their relationship.

Can't agree with the Tsunade one. Kishi made Kakashi, Kabuto's equal, look like an absolute fodder against Orochimaru. Tsunade's in another league to that Kakashi.

 

[GUI VI]

Naruto is mid

 

[ZenZu]

Tbh it's poor reading comprehension than anything, considering Gai remembers Kisame for his selfless actions by the end of their relationship.

Kisame is still a punching bag sadly. Love him to death, incredibly strong character. But all he knows is Ls.

Can't agree with the Tsunade one. Kishi made Kakashi, Kabuto's equal, look like an absolute fodder against Orochimaru. Tsunade's in another league to that Kakashi.

Tsunade can't touch Kakashi in a million years. No amount of breaking rubble is gonna make up for their gap in speed and taijutsu, especially with precog.

 

[MonsterKaido]

-Tsunade caps around part 1 Kabuto level as an overall fighter, makes up for it by being a broken medic.
-Kisame is a glorified punching bag who was so insignificant that Gai never remembered him.
-Konan was only in the akatsuki due to her relationship with Nagato, they would never go out of their way to recruit her, she's not strong enough to hunt Bijuu.
-Obito's usage of the rinnegan is dogshit.
-Tobirama is the weakest of the dead Kage, he got his ass handed to him by Kinkaku.
-Hiruzen is the biggest fraud in the series. Prime Hiruzen is a complete myth.
-Obito is a Kamui merchant who is inferior to Kakashi in skill.

Bolded ones I agree with. Others hard disagree though

 

[Formerly Seth]

- Hiruzen should've taken a bit more care of Naruto as a kid. Hire someone to raise him as a parental/uncle/aunt figure.

- Tsunade is trash and should've never been connected to the 1st.

- Akatsuki's goal as an organization was more like that of heroes rather than villains and the execution of it was some weird reach by the author just to force their portrayal as the bad guys.

- Naruto's Talk no Jutsu was creepy at times and super abused by the author but after years I don't resent it as much as I did reading it weekly because Naruto had to beat some people into it, so in a way he wouldn't achieve what he did if he was just a mere weakling. Controversial + from former Narutotard ( as a series not character )

- Minato and Kushina didn't have to die together, it was dumb as fuck. If Kushina was meant to die she should die right after extracting Kyuubi not only after they both got impaled.

- Hiruzen should did A LOT MORE during Kyuubi invasion.

tbc....

-Tobirama is the weakest of the dead Kage, he got his ass handed to him by Kinkaku.

Love this one.

Tobirama munchers probably still believe he died fighting an army full of high-level Jonins

 

[MonsterKaido]

- Hiruzen should've taken a bit more care of Naruto as a kid. Hire someone to raise him as a parental/uncle/aunt figure.

- Tsunade is trash and should've never been connected to the 1st.

- Akatsuki's goal as an organization was more like that of heroes rather than villains and the execution of it was some weird reach by the author just to force their portrayal as the bad guys.

- Naruto's Talk no Jutsu was creepy at times and super abused by the author but after years I don't resent it as much as I did reading it weekly because Naruto had to beat some people into it, so in a way he wouldn't achieve what he did if he was just a mere weakling. Controversial + from former Narutotard ( as a series not character )

- Minato and Kushina didn't have to die together, it was dumb as fuck. If Kushina was meant to die she should die right after extracting Kyuubi not only after they both got impaled.

- Hiruzen should did A LOT MORE during Kyuubi invasion.

tbc....




Love this one.

Tobirama munchers probably still believe he died fighting an army full of high-level Jonins

Agreed with everything other than Tsuande being trash. Her character was handled well in part 1 imo

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Kisame is still a punching bag sadly. Love him to death, incredibly strong character. But all he knows is Ls.

Lmaoo again, you need to bait better. The fact you stan Hidan & Kakuzu, who literally are carried by their extra lives, makes all this bait redundant.

Tsunade can't touch Kakashi in a million years. No amount of breaking rubble is gonna make up for their gap in speed and taijutsu, especially with precog.

She catches Kabuto in a rusty state, a guy who is barely slower stat wise to Kakashi. Orochimaru's killing intent negs Kakashi like Zabuza did to fresh genin, the gap between Part 1 Kakashi and kage level shinobi is heaven and earth.

 

[ZenZu]

Lmaoo again, you need to bait better. The fact you stan Hidan & Kakuzu, who literally are carried by their extra lives, makes all this bait redundant.

Cry

She catches Kabuto in a rusty state, a guy who is barely slower stat wise to Kakashi. Orochimaru's killing intent negs Kakashi like Zabuza did to fresh genin, the gap between Part 1 Kakashi and kage level shinobi is heaven and earth.

Not really an argument. Portrayal is cool and all, but I'm talking about a 1v1 against Kakashi.

She's an S tier medic though, and a massive tank, but Kakashi will make her telegraphed fighting style look silly.

For what it's worth Tsunade puts up a better fight against Orochimaru than Kakashi can, that doesn't mean she can deal with Kakashi though.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Not really an argument. Portrayal is cool and all, but I'm talking about a 1v1 against Kakashi.

She's an S tier medic though, and a massive tank, but Kakashi will make her telegraphed fighting style look silly.

For what it's worth Tsunade puts up a better fight against Orochimaru than Kakashi can, that doesn't mean she can deal with Kakashi though.

Her fighting ability was on par with the other nerfed sannin, can't see for the life of me Kakashi getting anything definitive in that doesn't lead to his head being flicked off. Especially with his shit stamina part 1. The sharingan drains him like no other.

 

[drumming_seawizard]

-Tsunade caps around part 1 Kabuto level as an overall fighter, makes up for it by being a broken medic.
-Kisame is a glorified punching bag who was so insignificant that Gai never remembered him.
-Konan was only in the akatsuki due to her relationship with Nagato, they would never go out of their way to recruit her, she's not strong enough to hunt Bijuu.
-Obito's usage of the rinnegan is dogshit.
-Tobirama is the weakest of the dead Kage, he got his ass handed to him by Kinkaku.
-Hiruzen is the biggest fraud in the series. Prime Hiruzen is a complete myth.
-Obito is a Kamui merchant who is inferior to Kakashi in skill.

gai had to open the sixth gate to fight kisame with only 30% of his chakra and the seventh gate to fight kisame without the samehada.

 

[Formerly Seth]

-Hiruzen is the biggest fraud in the series. Prime Hiruzen is a complete myth.

This was always my problem with Hiruzen.

His showings during the Final War + the hype he got over all Kage from other villages and then u see his performance during the Kyuubi attack.

He was even more impressive during Orochimaru's attack. ( More impressive than during Kyuubi's attack * )

Claiming that he was back to being active when Orochimaru attacked was fucking weird since he wasn't fighting anyone just doing Hokage office bullshit.

His performance during Kyuubi's attack makes no sense to me. He wasn't handicapped or ill.

Shows how powerful Minato was tbh. Only Hashirama and Hokage Naruto are stronger Kage than him.

Either Kishimoto did something wrong or we can't read. I bet the first as you can imagine.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

gai had to open the sixth gate to fight kisame with only 30% of his chakra and the seventh gate to fight kisame without the samehada.

Trust me bro, it ain't worth it on that topic.

 

[Shiroyru]

-Tsunade caps around part 1 Kabuto level as an overall fighter, makes up for it by being a broken medic.
-Kisame is a glorified punching bag who was so insignificant that Gai never remembered him.
-Konan was only in the akatsuki due to her relationship with Nagato, they would never go out of their way to recruit her, she's not strong enough to hunt Bijuu.
-Obito's usage of the rinnegan is dogshit.
-Tobirama is the weakest of the dead Kage, he got his ass handed to him by Kinkaku.
-Hiruzen is the biggest fraud in the series. Prime Hiruzen is a complete myth.
-Obito is a Kamui merchant who is inferior to Kakashi in skill.

Gai didn’t even remember Madara

 

[ZenZu]

-A healthy Itachi is without a doubt stronger than Pre Rinnegan Obito.
-Early War (Rinnegan) Obito is weaker than DSM Kabuto.
-Sasori is intended to be the strongest Akatsuki member outside of the big 3 (Pain, Itachi, Obito) strictly by portrayal.

gai had to open the sixth gate to fight kisame with only 30% of his chakra and the seventh gate to fight kisame without the samehada.

Doesn't contradict what I said though, Gai absolutely curbstomped him both times. I do feel bad for Kisame as that was his worst matchup, but that's on Kishi for making him a punching bag. Atleast he gave him his best possible matchup in Bee, before sending him off.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

An unpopular opinion is that Sasuke is the prodigy of hard work, Naruto is the natural genius.

Sasuke is shown constantly training in pre-genin flashbacks, mastering the fireball jutsu over the course of days, struggling with the sharingan in early chuunin exams moments like vs Lee, using his intelliegence / research to take down Orochimaru and Deidara, strategizing and inventing new jutsu for Itachi, etc.

Meanwhile Naruto learns a forbidden jutsu in less than 1 evening, is always at Sasuke's neck despite not training as much, can harness bits of the kyuubi chakra after one session, masters sage mode in no time, masters the rasenshuriken—something Minny toe couldn't—in a weeks time or so.

He puts barely any effort into his shinobi career and is still neck and neck with Sasuke

 

[Formerly Seth]

An unpopular opinion is that Sasuke is the prodigy of hard work, Naruto is the natural genius.

Sasuke is shown constantly training in pre-genin flashbacks, mastering the fireball jutsu over the course of days, struggling with the sharingan in early chuunin exams moments like vs Lee, using his intelliegence / research to take down Orochimaru and Deidara, strategizing and inventing new jutsu for Itachi, etc.

Meanwhile Naruto learns a forbidden jutsu in less than 1 evening, is always at Sasuke's neck despite not training as much, can harness bits of the kyuubi chakra after one session, masters sage mode in no time, masters the rasenshuriken—something Minny toe couldn't—in a weeks time or so.

He puts barely any effort into his shinobi career and is still neck and neck with Sasuke

Overall Itachi is an antithesis to Sasuke being born a genius and all that you've mentioned.

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

My unpopular opinion is that Kisame is the best character in the series.