Versus Battle Green Bull vs Hashirama Senju
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Well Hashirama is not invulnerable like GB is. Most of Hashirama's arsenal is being used against a character that's Wood nature very being. Hashirama is only making abilities for GB to dwell and use here lol.
This video breakdown is an excellent tool to engaged this overall battle. Even though GB is not in the video he is still upscaled and portryal to be in the same league as the other Admiral's. Plus match up advantage since Hashirama's forte is Wood Style.
@RayanOO, this video is for you too when you free to check it out
This video breakdown is an excellent tool to engaged this overall battle. Even though GB is not in the video he is still upscaled and portryal to be in the same league as the other Admiral's. Plus match up advantage since Hashirama's forte is Wood Style.
@RayanOO, this video is for you too when you free to check it out
not really hasrama's healing abilities are unmatched and nigh instantaneous
even if lets suppose GB can control trees around him which as things stand is a headcanon
hashirama would just require chakra to basically damage any logia and naruto verse's profundity with spiritual energy is much higher and versatile comapred to OP..
thats not even considering what senjutsu is capable of
and i watched the part of the video where talks about equalization. which sets the premise of his scaling but....bruh its inaccurate and logically flawed
He chooses not to equalize because it gives an advantage to one company over another.. not realizing without equalization he's still favouring one over another due to haki being the sole thing able to damage logia so it's fundamentally unfairly disadvantageous to one company due to one having a certain ability that other doesn't .. so his reason for that is contradictory .
its like saying being fair is actually irrational here lol
another reason why the premise of him not using equalization is flawed is due to the fallacious assumption that it gives one party access to additional abilities like haki, which is flawed because he's assuming Naruto verse knows how to manipulate spiritual energy like OP.
This is the a verse battle with each verse's abilities like they know vs other's and to discard equalization is problematic when fundamentally both derive their power from the same source which is kinda absurd why someone would disregard it..
it essentially is Naruto verse's take on spiritual energy vs OP thats the best equalizer
even if lets suppose GB can control trees around him which as things stand is a headcanon
hashirama would just require chakra to basically damage any logia and naruto verse's profundity with spiritual energy is much higher and versatile comapred to OP..
thats not even considering what senjutsu is capable of
and i watched the part of the video where talks about equalization. which sets the premise of his scaling but....bruh its inaccurate and logically flawed
He chooses not to equalize because it gives an advantage to one company over another.. not realizing without equalization he's still favouring one over another due to haki being the sole thing able to damage logia so it's fundamentally unfairly disadvantageous to one company due to one having a certain ability that other doesn't .. so his reason for that is contradictory .
its like saying being fair is actually irrational here lol
another reason why the premise of him not using equalization is flawed is due to the fallacious assumption that it gives one party access to additional abilities like haki, which is flawed because he's assuming Naruto verse knows how to manipulate spiritual energy like OP.
This is the a verse battle with each verse's abilities like they know vs other's and to discard equalization is problematic when fundamentally both derive their power from the same source which is kinda absurd why someone would disregard it..
it essentially is Naruto verse's take on spiritual energy vs OP thats the best equalizer
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Hashirama is still vulnerable to lethal damage that can cost him his life. The video even pointed out that Hashirama was about to take his own life with a Kunai for the sake of making peace with the Uchiha so there's clearly a limit to his healing. Hashirama is not regenerating with all his water in his body being completely drained. We saw Madara(who had Hashirama cells to duplicated his feats) needing to replace a limb he lost by stealing one off of a Zetsu. Dealing with Hashirama's healing won't be in issue at all.
Did we not see in OP how Logia's can fully be apart of their affinity and manipulate it itself? Why would their actual ability be considered headcanon here lol?
Watch from 8:20-10:14 that explains why you can't synergize their fundamentals.
That is not a contradiction. A contradiction is you saying a different fundamental is the same fundamental. Therefore both fundamental works the same. You're making the claim, he is not. He has only objectively pointed out the fundamental of a chakra system as well as the haki system. And if you watch further in the video in detail, he also have points where Naruto characters having to deal with actual natural forces outside of chakra system. So to say Chakra system should equal ito DF and Haki system is disingenuous when we know natural system in Naruto is also a thing that counters chakra manipulation.
Did we not see in OP how Logia's can fully be apart of their affinity and manipulate it itself? Why would their actual ability be considered headcanon here lol?
Watch from 8:20-10:14 that explains why you can't synergize their fundamentals.
That is not a contradiction. A contradiction is you saying a different fundamental is the same fundamental. Therefore both fundamental works the same. You're making the claim, he is not. He has only objectively pointed out the fundamental of a chakra system as well as the haki system. And if you watch further in the video in detail, he also have points where Naruto characters having to deal with actual natural forces outside of chakra system. So to say Chakra system should equal ito DF and Haki system is disingenuous when we know natural system in Naruto is also a thing that counters chakra manipulation.
Green Bull neg-diff.
Hashirama has basic haki? Cool, GreenBull neg-diff.
Because they aren't the same nor have the same principle?? You're better off comparing Haki to Force than you're to chakra/nen/Ki.
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Hashirama gets low-diff'd by the OP High tiers, he has 0 chances against a legit OP top tier.
His one and only chance is utilizing the clone hax, but the likelihood of that doing anything to even the likes of Sanji is insanely low.
He's no where near god tier. The mans is low-diff material for Naruto & Sasuke who got their powers from Rikudou. And they aren't even God Tiers tbf. Rather than the actual God Tiers like Rikudo/Kaguya/etc.
There's a GIANT gap in Naruto Top tiers & Naruto God Tiers, in particular if you remove the PIS non-sense like Gai vs Juubidara.
1 slap from GreenBull to Hashirama's face is breaking all the bones on his face.
Assuming he can manage to avoid getting blitzed and decapitated under the 1st 30 seconds.
Are you guys at all paying attention to how giant the raw physical gap is between a One Piece Top Tier & dudes like Hashirama??? Or just basing this shit on Hashirama showcasing techniques of gigantic scale??
Like jesus bruh One Piece mid-tiers would be physical gods in Naruto-verse.
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Even if we ignore the AP/Dura & Speed gap. The sheer raw physical strength gap is got damn insane.
You got an Alabasta fucked up fodder Zoro doing physical feats that only the God Tiers & Naruto SM/ Hashi SM/ Tsunade/Sakura/3rd &4th Raikage could match.
And the sheer physical gap between that bumass Zoro in Alabasta vs Dressrosa Zoro is insane. Not to then mention the sheer gap between Dressrosa Zoro to actual top tiers who have insane physical bodies, albeit some weaker than others.
I'm trying to figure out what in the blue hell is stopping GB from giving Hashirama this same exact treatment within the 1st 30 seconds. He's got no Haki, his physical body ain't all that special outside of SM (which isn't gonna prevent his skull from being crushed like this).
Hashirama has basic haki? Cool, GreenBull neg-diff.
Because they aren't the same nor have the same principle?? You're better off comparing Haki to Force than you're to chakra/nen/Ki.
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Hashirama gets low-diff'd by the OP High tiers, he has 0 chances against a legit OP top tier.
His one and only chance is utilizing the clone hax, but the likelihood of that doing anything to even the likes of Sanji is insanely low.
He's no where near god tier. The mans is low-diff material for Naruto & Sasuke who got their powers from Rikudou. And they aren't even God Tiers tbf. Rather than the actual God Tiers like Rikudo/Kaguya/etc.
There's a GIANT gap in Naruto Top tiers & Naruto God Tiers, in particular if you remove the PIS non-sense like Gai vs Juubidara.
1 Hashirama cell >>>>>>>>> Greenbull 
Assuming he can manage to avoid getting blitzed and decapitated under the 1st 30 seconds.
Are you guys at all paying attention to how giant the raw physical gap is between a One Piece Top Tier & dudes like Hashirama??? Or just basing this shit on Hashirama showcasing techniques of gigantic scale??
Like jesus bruh One Piece mid-tiers would be physical gods in Naruto-verse.
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Even if we ignore the AP/Dura & Speed gap. The sheer raw physical strength gap is got damn insane.
You got an Alabasta fucked up fodder Zoro doing physical feats that only the God Tiers & Naruto SM/ Hashi SM/ Tsunade/Sakura/3rd &4th Raikage could match.
And the sheer physical gap between that bumass Zoro in Alabasta vs Dressrosa Zoro is insane. Not to then mention the sheer gap between Dressrosa Zoro to actual top tiers who have insane physical bodies, albeit some weaker than others.
I'm trying to figure out what in the blue hell is stopping GB from giving Hashirama this same exact treatment within the 1st 30 seconds. He's got no Haki, his physical body ain't all that special outside of SM (which isn't gonna prevent his skull from being crushed like this).
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Green Bull neg-diff.
Hashirama has basic haki? Cool, GreenBull neg-diff.
Because they aren't the same nor have the same principle?? You're better off comparing Haki to Force than you're to chakra/nen/Ki.
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Hashirama gets low-diff'd by the OP High tiers, he has 0 chances against a legit OP top tier.
His one and only chance is utilizing the clone hax, but the likelihood of that doing anything to even the likes of Sanji is insanely low.
He's no where near god tier. The mans is low-diff material for Naruto & Sasuke who got their powers from Rikudou. And they aren't even God Tiers tbf. Rather than the actual God Tiers like Rikudo/Kaguya/etc.
There's a GIANT gap in Naruto Top tiers & Naruto God Tiers, in particular if you remove the PIS non-sense like Gai vs Juubidara.
1 slap from GreenBull to Hashirama's face is breaking all the bones on his face.
Assuming he can manage to avoid getting blitzed and decapitated under the 1st 30 seconds.
Are you guys at all paying attention to how giant the raw physical gap is between a One Piece Top Tier & dudes like Hashirama??? Or just basing this shit on Hashirama showcasing techniques of gigantic scale??
Like jesus bruh One Piece mid-tiers would be physical gods in Naruto-verse.
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Even if we ignore the AP/Dura & Speed gap. The sheer raw physical strength gap is got damn insane.
You got an Alabasta fucked up fodder Zoro doing physical feats that only the God Tiers & Naruto SM/ Hashi SM/ Tsunade/Sakura/3rd &4th Raikage could match.
And the sheer physical gap between that bumass Zoro in Alabasta vs Dressrosa Zoro is insane. Not to then mention the sheer gap between Dressrosa Zoro to actual top tiers who have insane physical bodies, albeit some weaker than others.
I'm trying to figure out what in the blue hell is stopping GB from giving Hashirama this same exact treatment within the 1st 30 seconds. He's got no Haki, his physical body ain't all that special outside of SM (which isn't gonna prevent his skull from being crushed like this).
Hashirama has basic haki? Cool, GreenBull neg-diff.
Because they aren't the same nor have the same principle?? You're better off comparing Haki to Force than you're to chakra/nen/Ki.
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Hashirama gets low-diff'd by the OP High tiers, he has 0 chances against a legit OP top tier.
His one and only chance is utilizing the clone hax, but the likelihood of that doing anything to even the likes of Sanji is insanely low.
He's no where near god tier. The mans is low-diff material for Naruto & Sasuke who got their powers from Rikudou. And they aren't even God Tiers tbf. Rather than the actual God Tiers like Rikudo/Kaguya/etc.
There's a GIANT gap in Naruto Top tiers & Naruto God Tiers, in particular if you remove the PIS non-sense like Gai vs Juubidara.
1 slap from GreenBull to Hashirama's face is breaking all the bones on his face.
Assuming he can manage to avoid getting blitzed and decapitated under the 1st 30 seconds.
Are you guys at all paying attention to how giant the raw physical gap is between a One Piece Top Tier & dudes like Hashirama??? Or just basing this shit on Hashirama showcasing techniques of gigantic scale??
Like jesus bruh One Piece mid-tiers would be physical gods in Naruto-verse.
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Even if we ignore the AP/Dura & Speed gap. The sheer raw physical strength gap is got damn insane.
You got an Alabasta fucked up fodder Zoro doing physical feats that only the God Tiers & Naruto SM/ Hashi SM/ Tsunade/Sakura/3rd &4th Raikage could match.
And the sheer physical gap between that bumass Zoro in Alabasta vs Dressrosa Zoro is insane. Not to then mention the sheer gap between Dressrosa Zoro to actual top tiers who have insane physical bodies, albeit some weaker than others.
I'm trying to figure out what in the blue hell is stopping GB from giving Hashirama this same exact treatment within the 1st 30 seconds. He's got no Haki, his physical body ain't all that special outside of SM (which isn't gonna prevent his skull from being crushed like this).
The fact people here believes Hashi is close to god tier tells me all.He is fodder for current standarts