Character Discussion Eustass 'Captain' Kid - Keep on rollin'

So I've thought about it :

Kid and Killer will be trained by whoever that saves them (Saul or Loki )
Kid will get better at defence by mastering CoC and CoA
While Killer gets better scythes and skills

Kid and Killer just had their Sabaody & also "5th Emperor " moments :
  • 3B but not Yonko...
  • Gets hyped as a threat but still far from yonko level
  • Crew and ship destroyed
Saul /Loki will Kid & Killer "Rayleigh " or "Hyuo"
 
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So I've thought about it :

Kid and Killer will be trained by whoever that saves them (Saul or Loki )
Kid will get better at defence by mastering CoC and CoA
While Killer gets better scythes and skills

Kid just had their Sabaody & also "5th Emperor " moments :
  • 3B but not Yonko...
  • Gets hyped as a threat but still far from yonko level
  • Crew and ship destroyed
Saul /Loki will Kid & Killer "Rayleigh " or "Hyuo"
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So I've thought about it :

Kid and Killer will be trained by whoever that saves them (Saul or Loki )
Kid will get better at defence by mastering CoC and CoA
While Killer gets better scythes and skills

Kid just had their Sabaody & also "5th Emperor " moments :
  • 3B but not Yonko...
  • Gets hyped as a threat but still far from yonko level
  • Crew and ship destroyed
Saul /Loki will Kid & Killer "Rayleigh " or "Hyuo"
You are expecting and extra to get main character treatment. Sorry bro not gonna happen
 
So I've thought about it :

Kid and Killer will be trained by whoever that saves them (Saul or Loki )
Kid will get better at defence by mastering CoC and CoA
While Killer gets better scythes and skills

Kid just had their Sabaody & also "5th Emperor " moments :
  • 3B but not Yonko...
  • Gets hyped as a threat but still far from yonko level
  • Crew and ship destroyed
Saul /Loki will Kid & Killer "Rayleigh " or "Hyuo"
Eh idk about all that but i definitely believe that there is no way that they are done. However before doing some kind of training what he desperately needs is character development. He got bodied, his crew got bodied, his ship named after his childhood friend got bodied. How does he move forward from this point on? Does he get a new resolve? Does he learn something from this experience? Will his crew still believe in him? How will he react after realizing that his crew got destroyed once again? I hope that oda is cooking something good for him character wise. If he does then I will be happy to see him coming back stronger one way or another.
 
So I've thought about it :

Kid and Killer will be trained by whoever that saves them (Saul or Loki )
Kid will get better at defence by mastering CoC and CoA
While Killer gets better scythes and skills

Kid just had their Sabaody & also "5th Emperor " moments :
  • 3B but not Yonko...
  • Gets hyped as a threat but still far from yonko level
  • Crew and ship destroyed
Saul /Loki will Kid & Killer "Rayleigh " or "Hyuo"
Killer will kill Beckman not Shiryu
 
Eh idk about all that but i definitely believe that there is no way that they are done. However before doing some kind of training what he desperately needs is character development. He got bodied, his crew got bodied, his ship named after his childhood friend got bodied. How does he move forward from this point on? Does he get a new resolve? Does he learn something from this experience? Will his crew still believe in him? How will he react after realizing that his crew got destroyed once again? I hope that oda is cooking something good for him character wise. If he does then I will be happy to see him coming back stronger one way or another.
Oda sucks at developing characters
I'm not expecting Kid to do some drastic changes character wise

You are expecting and extra to get main character treatment. Sorry bro not gonna happen
I'm not expecting, I'm just thinking

I know Oda disappoints
 
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Oda sucks at developing characters
I'm not expecting Kid to do some drastic changes character wise


I'm not expecting, I'm nust thinking

I know Oda disappoints
I think oda knows what he is doing. I'll wait and see but I am honestly not worried about Kid's future. Oda had a 1 month break to sort out his plan for the final saga. Kid and Law played major roles in wano and got a huge bounty for that. In the very next arc they suffer an utter defeat. If I was a new reader I'd have believed that it was genuinely over for them but I do not think so not after their involvment in wano and the fact that they are still young. Oda just not gonna throw them away like them they are promising and can still get a lot stronger and learn from this defeat. Plus I'd also find it genuinely weird if the straw hats ended up being the only pirates left in the new generation when everything is over. I believe that this l is a blessing in disguise for kid and law. They will both be stronger next time we see them
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I doubt Oda will take Kidd and Law out of the game like this.They will be back with PU to get some feats.
what powerup would you see them getting?
 
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I'm not expecting, I'm nust thinking

I know Oda disappoints
It‘s not disappointing. It’s just how extras get treated. Everyone knows that while kid and law had their moments they are side characters at the end. Same as rock lee and Neji or Gaara. All had their moments to shine but at the end thej get killed, or pushed to the side. That’s what happened with captain useless mid as well
 
I think oda knows what he is doing. I'll wait and see but I am honestly not worried about Kid's future. Oda had a 1 month break to sort out his plan for the final saga. Kid and Law played major roles in wano and got a huge bounty for that. In the very next arc they suffer an utter defeat. If I was a new reader I'd have believed that it was genuinely over for them but I do not think so not after their involvment in wano and the fact that they are still young. Oda just not gonna throw them away like them they are promising and can still get a lot stronger and learn from this defeat. Plus I'd also find it genuinely weird if the straw hats ended up being the only pirates left in the new generation when everything is over. I believe that this l is a blessing in disguise for kid and law. They will both be stronger next time we see them
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what powerup would you see them getting?
Number 1 rule : don't expect much from Oda

The guy has fumbled
There's nothing much he can do that will save Kidd's character...unless he ends up beating Shanks or Benn + some other RHP members
Kid losing twice to RHP pathetically is just super bad writing that killed him as rising new Gen who just toppled Yonko at Wano.
 
Number 1 rule : don't expect much from Oda

The guy has fumbled
There's nothing much he can do that will save Kidd's character...unless he ends up beating Shanks or Benn + some other RHP members
Kid losing twice to RHP pathetically is just super bad writing that killed him as rising new Gen who just toppled Yonko at Wano.
I disagree with that. Kid losing and getting destroyed by oda is not bad writing especially with the context behind it. Oda can always make him come back later kid and law dont have to be yonko level right away like luffy lmao its not over for them. I believe that these l's will make them strive to get stronger. They are still young dont be so pesimistic lmao
 
You are expecting and extra to get main character treatment. Sorry bro not gonna happen
Main character treatment would be if Kid awakened 3 bullshit power ups in the span of a day and beat Shanks in Elbaf.

Him getting defeated and then coming back later stronger is how Oda treats most re-occuring characters. See: Lucci, Kaku, and even Kid and Law during Wano with their awakenings.
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My theory is that Kid and Law beat Beckman and Shiryu. Kid gains ACoC in order to beat Beckman. Law gains advanced observation in order to beat Shiryu.

Kid will probably also upgrade damned punk to make it more efficient, a weapon comparable to Beckman's rifle, but stronger. Law will use R-Room to make himself invisible, allowing him to beat Shiryu at his own game.

By beating the strongest YC1s, Kid and Law will leave elbaf as full blown top tiers.
 
Kid's going to face Imu along with Law and help Law remove Imu's immortality so Luffy can defeat him.

Now that its confirmed Imu has immortality and is one of the 20 kings, Law will likely need to face him in order to disable the immortality. However, Law has never done anything significant in a 1v1. Doffy, BM, Kaido, he fought all those battles in tag team. So he will need a sidekick and that will probably be Kid, as I doubt Oda will just magically drop the fake rivalry after 500+ chapters of build up.

Kid will probably pin down Imu with super duper Damned punk awakening, Law will take Imu's immortality, and the two will subsequently get clapped before Luffy saves them.
 
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