Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1085 Spoilers Discussion

Who's the final villain?


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I said that they wouldn't end up as they did last time.

But realistically. Luffy didn't defeat Kaido in pure 1 vs 1 from start to finish. It was loaded with bullshit, plot armor and fake outs.

Zoro is approaching Top Tier level but is no fully there. Rest of the SHs are fodders for Kizaru.

Realistically Kizaru and Saturn should clap SHs.
Zoro is probably fighting Kizaru while Luffy fights Saturn.
 

Seth

𝐊𝐨𝐤𝐮𝐭𝐨 𝐒𝐡𝐮𝐬𝐮𝐢
Yeah true.
I definitely think Luffy's probably gonna suffer some slight form of defeat akin to Sabaody, but not on the same level as Sabaody itself. Like being forced to flee rather than having his entire crew pushed across the world.
I wonder if Oda is planning for Luffy to have some actual 1 vs 1 showcase from start to finish where the victory feels earned. Because Kaido is not one.
 

Seth

𝐊𝐨𝐤𝐮𝐭𝐨 𝐒𝐡𝐮𝐬𝐮𝐢
Zoro is probably fighting Kizaru while Luffy fights Saturn.
Yeah, something like this.

Saturn shows the "New Nika" that there are powers he is yet to understand overcome and Zoro stands up to Kizaru much to latter's surprise but ultimately overpowers him and both Zoro and Luffy understand they are in danger and must think for the crew first.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
Remember how Luffy was on the ground struggling to move after the Rokuogan?
Then how Lucci like a retard gets triggered by Usopp's words which also motivates Luffy?
And then how by the power of plot & friendship, Luffy goes Plus Ultra and uses Jet Gatling?

Are we also forgetting how Lucci took G3 like a retard instead of dodging it?

It was written well, doesnt change what happened tbf.
 
No retarded bs and fake storytelling.

Luffy and Zoro clap Seraphims.

Only challenge is Saturn and Kizaru. If Oda would be realistic, Straw Hats will experience another Sabaody but not as bad and overwhelming like the last time so they probably manage to escape on their own.

In reality:

Luffy and Zoro forget they have strong Haki forms.

Running around. Fake tension and most likely Saturn and Kizaru are a typical time ticking bomb plot.

I doubt even stronger crews would handle 100 Ships fleet with 2 top tiers. One in his Prime and one with knowledge going of for centuries.

Well, seraphims are meant to equal a Yonko and Luffy just has his commanders here, he needs more backup to win, he wont be stomped but it really seems he can lose.
 
Dude the BBP heading to Egghead are two bozos.
I mean, counting Devon being turned to stone by Hancock is sorta unrealistic, since it's fucking Hancock. Her powerset is less so one of pure force and more something where if you're horny for her you're gonna be made of stone unless you have zero thoughts about sex like Luffy. Even Blackbeard admitted that he'd be done in by it.
Plus I'm one of those guys who thinks Lafitte is Blackbeard's YC2 so there's that.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
I wonder if Oda is planning for Luffy to have some actual 1 vs 1 showcase from start to finish where the victory feels earned. Because Kaido is not one.
Crocodile, Enel, Lucci, Moriah, Doflamingo, Katakuri and Kaidou were all fights were Luffy somehow works the miracle after help and saves the day.
He doesnt have to be stronger than the villain to do so though.
 
Remember how Luffy was on the ground struggling to move after the Rokuogan?
Then how Lucci like a retard gets triggered by Usopp's words which also motivates Luffy?
And then how by the power of plot & friendship, Luffy goes Plus Ultra and uses Jet Gatling?

Are we also forgetting how Lucci took G3 like a retard instead of dodging it?

It was written well, doesnt change what happened tbf.
That's more of an endurance and speed feat for Luffy ngl.
Yeah, something like this.

Saturn shows the "New Nika" that there are powers he is yet to understand overcome and Zoro stands up to Kizaru much to latter's surprise but ultimately overpowers him and both Zoro and Luffy understand they are in danger and must think for the crew first.
:cheers:
 
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