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Who's the final villain?


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Uh sure yeah lol. Thats actually what I expect for endgame, unless BB or Shanks are also involved.

To me this structure works:

- Egghead: Kizaru + VAs
- Elbaf: Some giant villain maybe idk
- 4th RP: Burned Man or Blackbeard
- Lodestar/Laugh Tale: Blackbeard and/or Shanks
- Final War: Akainu/Fuji/Ryo/Zodiac VAs first, then Imu/Gorosei/Gods Knights.

But Im not naiive to think that this is the only way.
Loki is probably the villain
 
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Final Saga might be a cluster fuck of factions fighting each other.I don't expect Luffy to beat everyone.
I dont either, but lets put cards on the table:

- Egghead is pitting him against Kizaru or Saturn. This is essentially guaranteed.

- Elbaf will likely have its own conflicts and issues. But sure, it does not "need" to happen (villain-wise) unless Oda deems it so.

- 4th RP (wherever it is) obviously is grounds for conflict since its likely not on Egghead or Elbaf now. If the Burned Man is bad, either Luffy is defeating him or BB/Shanks are.

- Luffy is obviously fighting Blackbeard for sure. Im also in the boat that Blackbeard cannot fundamentally defeat Shanks (storywise, this is not a powerscale) because of Shanks' importance to Luffy and their own rivalry. I do think, currently, this is a 3 way fight (rather 4 of you include CG, but really just Mihawk) on and between Lodestar and Laugh Tale, if not during at the 4th RP plotline.

- Then you have Akainu and Imu. I cannot, in any semblance, seen anyone but Luffy fighting these 2. The former is extremely personal, the latter is being currently hyped as the potential engame villain.


You take the "Big 4" above (Blackbeard, Shanks, Akainu and Imu), and put them in any order, and I still cant see anyone but Luffy defeating them. Maaaaaybe Shanks is omitted if he's actually an ally, but the rest obviously fall on the MCs lap.

I agree that itll be a lot of fighting, but fundamentally Luffy should be the one fighting these characters. Anyone else doing them same just doesnt work in context (again, save for Shanks maybe, im not THAT much of a wanker lol)
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
People have been saying "things will be different now" since Luffy defeated Doflamingo
Oda is never gonna change his writing style even when Luffy becomes Pirate King
It's pathetic tbh.
Retards to this day use that one statement where Luffy needed to go G4 to get out of the grip vs Ulti to downplay Katakuri & Doflamingo, like Luffy didnt just punch Kaidou in with Red Roc few moments later.
All because of this stupid fake underdog crap Oda writes...
 
It's pathetic tbh.
Retards to this day use that one statement where Luffy needed to go G4 to get out of the grip vs Ulti to downplay Katakuri & Doflamingo, like Luffy didnt just punch Kaidou in with Red Roc few moments later.
All because of this stupid fake underdog crap Oda writes...
I remember people thinking that Usopp coming back buff and confident meant he will stop being cowardly
 

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Uh sure yeah lol. Thats actually what I expect for endgame, unless BB or Shanks are also involved.

To me this structure works:

- Egghead: Kizaru + VAs
- Elbaf: Some giant villain maybe idk
- 4th RP: Burned Man or Blackbeard
- Lodestar/Laugh Tale: Blackbeard and/or Shanks
- Final War: Akainu/Fuji/Ryo/Zodiac VAs first, then Imu/Gorosei/Gods Knights.

But Im not naiive to think that this is the only way.
You are very smarter then you look
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
Is there a quintuplet of religious and/or mythological entities that could possibly be the inspiration for the Gorosei's powers?
With Sun God = Nika
And the Gorosei having Planet theme (Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn) & Ancient Weapons (Uranus, Poseidon {Neptune} & Pluton).... I'd guess they probably have God mythical Zoans too.

With Imu probably being Earth in this pattern.
 
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