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Who's the final villain?


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If its not because they're d's it might be because each represent a space thing
  • Shirahoshi Poseidon Neptune
  • Blackbeard a black hole
  • Luffy the sun
  • Vivi idk
They might be D., but there's more than this like you said.
-Luffy just embodies JoyBoy's vibe and, soon enough, his will.
-Blackbeard seems to carry Xebec's Will, to be the king of the WORLD, not just the Pirates king
-Shiraoshi and Vivi are related to Key countries that were said to harbor the terrifying ancient weapons. Roger stated that they were too early to complete their quest, literally because Shiraoshi and someone else weren't born yet! Only pitfall: Pluton's background hasn't been disclosed yet, to the point that it's not clear of it's related to Momonosuke and Wano or if the Shogun is "just" the one who can control Zuneisha to open Wano's border and free Pluton, to be used.

Maybe this was Lily's Plan, diffuse the Poignee Griff and hide Pluton while deceiving the world, making them believe that it was hidden in Arabasta (Crocodile searched It there, the WG won't go to Wano)

When will people realize that fire ain't shit? The supernova tanked that and way more during the raid. Fire is worthless for powerscaling purposes.
We can say that, if this Fire fist is strong as Ace's, they defended themself at least as good as pre-TS Blackbeard crew, who to be honest tanked also Sengoku's shockwaves.
We don't have ant other evidence on their strenght but we surely don't have any evidence on their weakness

Dude doesn’t get that Imu wasn’t hiding, he literally has everything he could ever want or need. There’s no point in doing anything
Imu and the WG don't fear anyone, head on, but rather thei fear to lose their grip, their privilege. They fear an unprecedented alliance of the free world that con overthrow them!
So, it's Imu's plan ti deceive the world and rule it, making people believe that they matter and can even propose to abolish the Shikibukai. That son of an ancient bitch
 
It's symbolic. Doffy uses a gun to finish the job, Kaido used a gun to kill Oden. It's a simplistic and effective weapon for execution.
This is a simple storytelling, but it's useless. An uncomprehensive reader like him will not understand, he will interpret that situation just to suit his agenda :kayneshrug:
 
The one Luffy has actually a "bond" with right now,Blackbeard. Its even possibile Luffy will never know about Imu existence,and when Sabo tells him,he fall asleep bored like he always does. Luffy brings peace while he acts for his own interests,not in a direct way. He can bring peace defeating BB/Xebec evil plans. And like i said in a previous comment,Luffy already knows about Cobra's death but seemed more interested in finding Vivi than avenging Cobra. And in any case for Luffy Ace>> Cobra. Its possible Laugh Tale and Marejois will be two battfiefield in the same time. Luffy takes care of the piratesque side of the story fighting Teach/Xebec/Shanks/Man With Burned Scar/whoever the final pirate to defeat is,while Dragon/Sabo and other allies take care of the World Government side of the story,fighting Imu/Gorosei and Akainu.
Luffy is told that Sabo killed Cobra, he doesn’t know what happens. And Akainu killed Ace, not Blackbeard.

And you’re deluding yourself if you think Luffy the man with Joyboys fruit isn’t going to complete Joyboys mission especially after we found out Luffy has a secret dream.

Everything points to imu. Blackbeard really is just a mid saga villain.
 

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I will never forgive Oda
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Luffy is told that Sabo killed Cobra, he doesn’t know what happens. And Akainu killed Ace, not Blackbeard.

And you’re deluding yourself if you think Luffy the man with Joyboys fruit isn’t going to complete Joyboys mission especially after we found out Luffy has a secret dream.

Everything points to imu. Blackbeard really is just a mid saga villain.
Tbh Kaido is likely to be more important overall than Teach
 
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