What are people's views regarding arrested development, so to speak. I've heard at least two arguments that people are delaying the acceptance of responsibility and remain in a teenager-like state into adulthood. This isn't based on anything previously talked about in this thread, it just came to mind and I'm curious what y'all think.
What are people's views regarding arrested development, so to speak. I've heard at least two arguments that people are delaying the acceptance of responsibility and remain in a teenager-like state into adulthood.
I absolutely agree. I think people are unable to accept we grow up, change and have to be responsible for themselves. Game addiction, an unwillingness to get a job, etc are indicative of this.
The most tragic part is that people seemingly glorify it. Those who admire "influencers" and streamers. And let's not even get into the myriad of mental health problems, which, whilst not always their own fault, is present in almost all these individuals.
I speak of this from the perspective of a person who refused to grow up properly until I hit ~25.
I absolutely agree. I think people are unable to accept we grow up, change and have to be responsible for themselves. Game addiction, an unwillingness to get a job, etc are indicative of this.
I mean it in the sense that people don't seem to mature as human beings. This can also be seen in many of these new media adaptions. The audience wants their childhood stories regurgitated but in an edgy 'mature' version, and complain when something isn't 'mature' enough. But edginess is no sign of being a grownup, it's typically a teenage thing. And they seem to be stuck in that phase.
Mental illness must always be viewed from a broader perspective.
These days the young generations are asking themselves why they should even do all that, work a useless job that drains your energy, be eploited by your boss and in the end you're unhappy and your personal life is empty.
We are living in trying times. Society is changing and I really want to know where it is going.
And about the admiration of influencers I don't think that's really new. It's the same as wanting to be a pop star or an international football player.
I mean it in the sense that people don't seem to mature as human beings. This can also be seen in many of these new media adaptions. The audience wants their childhood stories regurgitated but in an edgy 'mature' version, and complain when something isn't 'mature' enough. But edginess is no sign of being a grownup, it's typically a teenage thing. And they seem to be stuck in that phase.
You are confusing cause and effect.
Mental illness must always be viewed from a broader perspective.
These days the young generations are asking themselves why they should even do all that, work a useless job that drains your energy, be eploited by your boss and in the end you're unhappy and your personal life is empty.
We are living in trying times. Society is changing and I really want to know where it is going.
And about the admiration of influencers I don't think that's really new. It's the same as wanting to be a pop star or an international football player.
I am absolutely not confusing cause and effect. The mental health problems either disincentivize growing up OR not growing up causes them. It is intrinsically linked.
I agree that people don't seem to mature, and this is also an issue.
As for why we need to work hard? Because it's essentially drilled into us on a DNA-level. Yes, we used to own our own labour and there was fulfilment in then, but at the same time, most have never gotten a free pass. My mental health improved exponentially once I set a goal for myself and began working harder (and I was once so fucking bad I couldn't even stomach the concept of applying for a job). I still have anxiety, but I'm able to combat it through facing life head on.
I mean it in the sense that people don't seem to mature as human beings. This can also be seen in many of these new media adaptions. The audience wants their childhood stories regurgitated but in an edgy 'mature' version, and complain when something isn't 'mature' enough. But edginess is no sign of being a grownup, it's typically a teenage thing. And they seem to be stuck in that phase.
You are confusing cause and effect.
Mental illness must always be viewed from a broader perspective.
These days the young generations are asking themselves why they should even do all that, work a useless job that drains your energy, be eploited by your boss and in the end you're unhappy and your personal life is empty.
We are living in trying times. Society is changing and I really want to know where it is going.
And about the admiration of influencers I don't think that's really new. It's the same as wanting to be a pop star or an international football player.
Economic crisis can also play a part in making young people "not mature",there is a lot of unemployed/idle people in Brazil(and other third world countries)simply because there are no jobs.
Let's also not discount that with the push of 'protectionism' of people: Safe spaces, a rise in censorship, etc, people don't get exposed to things that help them grow.
I am absolutely not confusing cause and effect. The mental health problems either disincentivize growing up OR not growing up causes them. It is intrinsically linked.
I agree that people don't seem to mature, and this is also an issue.
As for why we need to work hard? Because it's essentially drilled into us on a DNA-level. Yes, we used to own our own labour and there was fulfilment in then, but at the same time, most have never gotten a free pass. My mental health improved exponentially once I set a goal for myself and began working harder (and I was once so fucking bad I couldn't even stomach the concept of applying for a job). I still have anxiety, but I'm able to combat it through facing life head on.
In my experience i think not maturing has more to do with how people approach life than lack of work or mental illness,i know quite a few old people that are pretty much entitled kids despite their age.
Let's also not discount that with the push of 'protectionism' of people: Safe spaces, a rise in censorship, etc, people don't get exposed to things that help them grow.
In my experience i think not maturing has more to do with how people approach life than lack of work or mental illness,i know quite a few old people that are pretty much entitled kids despite their age.
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this for sure is bad for people,one grows by facing fears and adversity.
I mean, that's what I am partially saying. We don't approach life with a desire to achieve anymore. The concept of the participation prize is just another symptom of this. Many people want an -easy- life. But life will never be easy. I am not saying it is something exclusive to the newer generations, however, it is most certainly something that HAS been on the rise.
We could go onto many tangents for this topic. It is multi-faceted. The dissolution of the family, the narrative that having kids is a bad thing, identity politics forcing people to hate themselves, protectionism....
I fell prey to lots of this shit when I was younger.
I am absolutely not confusing cause and effect. The mental health problems either disincentivize growing up OR not growing up causes them. It is intrinsically linked.
I agree that people don't seem to mature, and this is also an issue.
As for why we need to work hard? Because it's essentially drilled into us on a DNA-level. Yes, we used to own our own labour and there was fulfilment in then, but at the same time, most have never gotten a free pass. My mental health improved exponentially once I set a goal for myself and began working harder (and I was once so fucking bad I couldn't even stomach the concept of applying for a job). I still have anxiety, but I'm able to combat it through facing life head on.
OK?
I guess
Most people who work hard don't get shit in return and the richest people don't work.
Nobody lives off their "own hands' work" nowadays. These times are over. And no, working your ass off like a slave is not 'drilled into our DNA'. Even people in medieval feudalism worked less hours than today!
On top of the frustration this inequality inevitably brings, when your work is meaningless and supports none other than oneself and perhaps a partner and kids, further disconnects people from their actual self.
Many societies have seen unprecedented changes and shifts in their social structures.
A lack of safe, multi-generational family structures and the support system they normally bring erodes perceived and actual safety.
I could go on and on.
Humans are not made for a life in anonymous cities, working for global companies and having access to the whole world through the internet yet significantly less meaningful, long-term social contacts.
Let's also not discount that with the push of 'protectionism' of people: Safe spaces, a rise in censorship, etc, people don't get exposed to things that help them grow.
OK? Humans are not made for a life in anonymous cities, working for global companies and having access to the whole world through the internet yet significantly less meaningful, long-term social contacts.
In my experience i think not maturing has more to do with how people approach life than lack of work or mental illness,i know quite a few old people that are pretty much entitled kids despite their age.
I mean, that's what I am partially saying. We don't approach life with a desire to achieve anymore. The concept of the participation prize is just another symptom of this. Many people want an -easy- life. But life will never be easy. I am not saying it is something exclusive to the newer generations, however, it is most certainly something that HAS been on the rise.
We could go onto many tangents for this topic. It is multi-faceted. The dissolution of the family, the narrative that having kids is a bad thing, identity politics forcing people to hate themselves, protectionism....
I fell prey to lots of this shit when I was younger.
Are you familiar with how dopamine works?We are overstimulated with small pleasures every day(social media,movies,music,porn and so on) everyday.That satiates our desire to achieve more,technology has made society hedonistic.This has nothing to do with maturity or mental illness.We are simply facing a new psycho social problem:everything is made to catch our attention and release small amounts of dopamine in our brains to make us addicted to stuff.As for the other stuff,yeah we are facing a cultural/social engineering that makes people lazy/coward/childish.A life without ambition can also be attributed to certain religious views,since some religions require one to not seek riches,fame and so on...
To add, the reason why my wife and I are going to be moving rural as soon as we can afford it (and it should be possible within the next year to three) is because the city is not the place to raise kids.
To add, the reason why my wife and I are going to be moving rural as soon as we can afford it (and it should be possible within the next year to three) is because the city is not the place to raise kids.
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