Controversial General Political Discussion

[Okamakama]

I wouldn't go as far as to call leftism a mental illness. I think left and right isn't even a problem. It's the extremes of both. However, whilst people are very happy to point out far-right extremism or extreme views, they are not willing to do the same for far-left extremist views.

Quite frankly, I'm sick of the authoritarianism that makes them think they have the right to dictate what I believe. I still can't influence what these people do, but I am entitled to my opinions on the matter.

In fact, I would go so far as to say the left infantilizes people through the concept of 'providing for all' but that is a weak mentality. I believe in safety nets for those who genuinely need them -- the old, the disabled and veterans, for example.

However, there are a lot of people who mooch government subsidies, and I am not even saying: "Muh immigrants."

There are plenty of British Nationals in the UK who abuse the benefits system -- some even fake the extremity of their mental health to get a free pass on jobseekers allowance. (I know this as somebody who once needed to have an employment specialist for those suffering from mental health difficulties due to my crippling depression at the time, and they told me how some use the service just so they could skip the mandatory job searching which is the prerequisite to claim Jobseekers Allowance. And yes... they despaired at that, because it makes people like me who were actually searching the rare ones. But they could do nothing about it!)

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

If women don't wanna be a mother, don't fuck. Same for men

It's not the same because the woman gets pregnant. Also rape is a thing.
When access to abortion is denied only the rapists win.

I don't really care about the "rights" of the adult in this situation. If you've made the fucking mistake and it's 32 weeks, well, tough shit. Man or woman up and raise the fucking kid. It's the right thing to do in my mind.

And if that kid will have a miserable life because they're unwanted and the parent( s) are financially unstable then I'm sure you're not going to care about that child anymore.

I don't really care about the "rights" of the adult in this situation

And that's the problem here.

What about rape babies?

Well, if it is within the right term, I can accept it being aborted.

But 32 weeks? That kid can survive

Rape babies are the only case where there should be no time limit.

I personally am of the belief that the parents, both, should have some decision in the matter. Hence my argument earlier that, if a man has no rights here, why is he forced to live with a mistake but a woman can just abort her mistake?

Do you have any idea how a pregnancy affects a woman's body and health??
Bs

. I do believe we should live with our mistakes

Bs
All you want is to see misery.

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She killed a person.

Do you know how many people you indirectly killed with your consumerism?

 

[NAMELESS]

I wouldn't go as far as to call leftism a mental illness. I think left and right isn't even a problem. It's the extremes of both. However, whilst people are very happy to point out far-right extremism or extreme views, they are not willing to do the same for far-left extremist views.

Quite frankly, I'm sick of the authoritarianism that makes them think they have the right to dictate what I believe. I still can't influence what these people do, but I am entitled to my opinions on the matter.

In fact, I would go so far as to say the left infantilizes people through the concept of 'providing for all' but that is a weak mentality. I believe in safety nets for those who genuinely need them -- the old, the disabled and veterans, for example.

However, there are a lot of people who mooch government subsidies, and I am not saying: "Muh immigrants."

There are plenty of domestic individuals in the UK who abuse the benefits system -- some even fake the extremity of their mental health to get a free pass on jobseekers allowance (I know this as somebody who once needed to have an employment specialist for those suffering from mental health difficulties due to my crippling depression and they told me how some use the service just so they could skip the mandatory job searching which is the prereq for Jobseekers Allowance. And yes... they despaired at that, because it makes people like me who were actually searching the rare ones.)

compare how much right wing genocides have happened vs left wing genocides and you will see who is truly violent.Left wing=genocidal apologists.Abortion is murderer in any stage of the development.

 

[Logiko]

I am free and entitled to my opinion on the matter. I would also try to stop her, if I had the opportunity. I cannot accept what she did as being the acts of an innocent person. She killed a person.

As a left-leaning individual, you should at least be able to accept people having opinio... oh... ohhh, my bad.

Every opinions are not equal.

so you dont give a fuck about human rights then...

I think you don't really care about that. Abortion is a right for women and you are trying to take it back. The one don't giving a fudge about human rights is you mate.

leftism is mental illness.

You really are one big red flag.

Basically anyone that identifies as a Uterus can decide about abortion using Leftist logic

What you just wrote doesn't make any sence.

However, whilst people are very happy to point out far-right extremism or extreme views, they are not willing to do the same for far-left extremist views.

Because far leftists are not the problem in our society, the far right is.

The right is wrong on pretty much everything:
- Science
- Sociology
- Social
- Economy
- Politic

Everything

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compare how much right wing genocides have happened vs left wing genocides and you will see your is truly violent.Left wing=genocidal apologists.Abortion is murderer in any stage of the development.

You are really lost mate.

 

[grey matter]

It's not the same because the woman gets pregnant. Also rape is a thing.
When access to abortion is denied only the rapists win.

Dude. Go re-read my post and reply again.

If you read it, you'd know I already made an exception to rape.

 

[Okamakama]

It's not the same because the woman gets pregnant. Also rape is a thing.
When access to abortion is denied only the rapists win.

And if that kid will have a miserable life because they're unwanted and the parent( s) are financially unstable then I'm sure you're not going to care about that child anymore.

And that's the problem here.

Rape babies are the only case where there should be no time limit.

Do you have any idea how a pregnancy affects a woman's body and health??
Bs
Bs
All you want is to see misery.

Have you ever considered, Maynard, that some genuinely care for children? The miserable life argument is a facetious one. In my country there are plenty of benefits that help single mothers. Some even have multiple kids just to keep getting free money.

I believe that the kid has a right to life. Life is both good and bad, and just assuming being poor means you're going to have a bad life is a big joke. I lived on the streets as a child -- and I still remember a lot of joy. I'm now living a life which, whilst I've had a bunch of odd turns, leaves me satisfied and overjoyed.

I do not want to see misery. I want people who have the ability to fucking live to live. You bring someone into this world you fucking look after it. You want to blame the lack of an abortion for the kids shit life? No, it's the parent's shit attitude.

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Every opinions are not equal.

I think you don't really care about that. Abortion is a right for women and you are trying to take it back. The one don't giving a fudge about human rights is you mate.

Did I ever say REPEAL abortion? No. I am asking for things to remain as is in the UK. Early term abortion I am okay with. I AM NOT okay when the kid could fucking live.

They may not be equal, but we certain are able to ascribe our own value to it, and you're not trying to even grasp what my gripe is. Instead you're throwing: "You don't care about human rights," and "YOU'RE TRYING TO TAKE BACK ABORTION RIGHTS," I never fucking said that.

 

[Tejas]

Every opinions are not equal.

I think you don't really care about that. Abortion is a right for women and you are trying to take it back. The one don't giving a fudge about human rights is you mate.



You really are one big red flag.




What you just wrote doesn't make any sence.



Because far leftists are not the problem in our society, the far right is.

The right is wrong on pretty much everything:
- Science
- Sociology
- Social
- Economy
- Politic

Everything

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You are really lost mate.

Fascism in a nutshell

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

compare how much right wing genocides have happened vs left wing genocides and you will see your is truly violent.Left wing=genocidal apologists.Abortion is murderer in any stage of the development.

And you're still a Bolsonaro voter who denies the ongoing genocides in indigenous people in your own country.
Your arguments are ass+you're alt

The miserable life argument is a facetious one. I

No

Life is both good and bad, and just assuming being poor means you're going to have a bad life is a big joke. I lived on the streets as a child -- and I still remember a lot of joy.

Stockholm syndrome ?🤔

Have you ever considered, Maynard, that some genuinely care for children?

Where are these people? Can you show them to me?

You bring someone into this world you fucking look after it. You want to blame the lack of an abortion for the kids shit life? No, it's the parent's shit attitude.

Then go and correct their 'shit attitude' with your own bare hands, oh great preacher of morality

. I want people who have the ability to fucking live to live.

What you want doesn't matter when it's about other people's lives.
Also life and death are individual choices. You don't get to decide for others nor does anyone have to suffer day in, day out.

compare how much right wing genocides have happened vs left wing genocides and you will see your is truly violent.Left wing=genocidal apologists.Abortion is murderer in any stage of the development.

And you're still a Bolsonaro voter who denies the ongoing genocides in indigenous people in your own country.
Your arguments are ass+you're alt right

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YOU'RE TRYING TO TAKE BACK ABORTION RIGHTS," I never fucking said that.

Oh OK I misunderstood you.
You sounded like a conservative nutcase in disguise, my bad.

 

[NAMELESS]

Fascism in a nutshell

Pretty much.They are neo nazis.

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And you're still a Bolsonaro voter who denies the ongoing genocides in indigenous people in your own country.
Your arguments are ass+you're alt

No


Stockholm syndrome ?🤔


Where are these people? Can you show them to me?


Then go and correct their 'shit attitude' with your own bare hands, oh great preacher of morality

What you want doesn't matter when it's about other people's lives.
Also life and death are individual choices. You don't get to decide for others nor does anyone have to suffer day in, day out.

And you're still a Bolsonaro voter who denies the ongoing genocides in indigenous people in your own country.
Your arguments are ass+you're alt right

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Oh OK I misunderstood you.
You sounded like a conservative nutcase in disguise, my bad.

Loli you need to run on a tread mill.

 

[Logiko]

Fascism in a nutshell

You don't know what fascism is dear sir.

Any women that aborts with a good reason deserves the ptsd that comes after.

Wow. Yeah, far right here. And you don't even see it.

They are neo nazis.

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Any women that aborts with a good reason deserves the ptsd that comes after

You are a red flag

You are fucking pathetic,you guys don't even know basic biology.You can't distinguish a man from a woman,who are you to talk about science?

You should look at some science. You are not in your domain here. You are completely lost.

China,Russia,Cuba,Venezuela

You know that Russia is a far right country, right ?

You don't even understand your place on the political spectrum...

 

[Okamakama]

Stockholm syndrome ?🤔

Where are these people? Can you show them to me?

Then go and correct their 'shit attitude' with your own bare hands, oh great preacher of morality

What you want doesn't matter when it's about other people's lives.
Also life and death are individual choices. You don't get to decide for others nor does anyone have to suffer day in, day out.

Oh OK I misunderstood you.
You sounded like a conservative nutcase in disguise, my bad.

First of all, it is not Stockholm Syndrome. I was abused from 3 years until 7 by my father, sexually, physically and mentally. They then liquidated our family's assets and fucked off with another woman, leaving us on the streets. Yet my mother is a wonderful person. She worked hard to get us into housing. She worked herself ragged. She provided me and my brother with what little she could. And I admire that parenting. She was, and is, my hero.

I am highlighting that shit circumstances does not mean the children will have a crap life. Sure, it'll be more difficult, but isn't that also just how unfair life is? Some are born with nothing, others everything. We can't control our circumstances, but we can work hard to overcome them.

It is not my job to correct bad parents. However, I do think parents should give it their all -- and killing their unborn children because they have a shitty attitude is just enabling them.

It's other people's lives. Yes. And do you agree with school shooters? If you don't, what right do you have when it's their life and decision?
What right does a parent have to end their child's life, Maynard? It's the same argument. WHAT THE WOMAN WANTS DOES NOT MATTER WHEN IT COMES TO OTHER PEOPLE'S LIVES.

And yes, you did misunderstand me. I said their is nuance. This 32 week old would have survived. What right did she have to kill it?

 

[NAMELESS]

You don't know what fascism is dear sir.


Wow. Yeah, far right here. And you don't even see it.



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You are a red flag


You should look at some science. You are not in your domain here. You are completely lost.


You know that Russia is a far right country, right ?

You don't even understand your place on the political spectrum...

"Russia far right country" LOL Get a life.You don't live in reality.You need to get red pilled.

 

[Logiko]

"Russia far right country" LOL Get a life.You don't live in reality.You need to get red pilled.

You talk like a Qanon bigot dude. You are not even understanding what far right means.

 

[NAMELESS]

First of all, it is not Stockholm Syndrome. I was abused from 3 years until 7 by my father, sexually, physically and mentally. They then liquidated our family's assets and fucked off with another woman, leaving us on the streets. Yet my mother is a wonderful person. She worked hard to get us into housing. She worked herself ragged. She provided me and my brother with what little she could. And I admire that parenting. She was, and is, my hero.

I am highlighting that shit circumstances does not mean the children will have a crap life. Sure, it'll be more difficult, but isn't that also just how unfair life is. Some are born with nothing, others everything. We can't control our circumstances, but we can work hard to overcome them.

It is not my job to correct bad parents. However, I do think parents should give it their all -- and killing their unborn children because they have a shitty attitude is just enabling them.

It's other people's lives. Yes. And do you agree with school shooters? If you don't, what right do you have when it's their life and decision?
What right does a parent have to end their child's life, Maynard? It's the same argument. WHAT THE WOMAN WANTS DOESN'T MATTER WHEN IT COMES TO OTHER PEOPLE'S LIVES.

And yes, you did misunderstand me. I said their is nuance. This 32 week old would have survived. What right did she have to kill it?

I'm very sorry to read that you went though sexual abuse.You are very reasonable for a left winger.You will probably end up a conservative later on.Mark my words.As for abortion,left people don't usually see a fetus as a human being.Solis is just a troll,can't know if he really believes that.Most of his posts are baits.He is posting stuff like that to trigger you.

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You talk like a Qanon bigot dude. You are not even understanding what far right means.

blue pill

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

@CarrotForNakama I missed you

 

[NAMELESS]

You talk like a Qanon bigot dude. You are not even understanding what far right means.

Far right=label created by the left to make conservatives look like maniacs.Only the dumbs ones fall for such propaganda.I'm 100% positive that you never read more than 10 books in your life.You lack literature about communism.

 

[Okamakama]

I'm very sorry to read that you went though sexual abuse.You are very reasonable for a left winger.You will probably end up a conservative later on.Mark my words.As for abortion,left people don't usually see a fetus as a human being.

Thank you. My brother was so fucked up from the experience as well that he used to beat me up almost every day after the event as well.
If I can survive it, others can. Of course, I never want people to suffer through it.

For the record, I am a centrist. I see value in both sides. I do not identify as a left-winger.
And yes, people don't consider the foetus a life. This is the issue for me.

 

[NAMELESS]

Thank you.

For the record, I am a centrist. I see value in both sides. I do not identify as a left-winger.
And yes, people don't consider the foetus a life. This is the issue for me.

What they want is to legalized infanticide as birth control.These people are shameless and grotesque.

 

[Mathias]

that guy is indian bro

He could be a Swiss as well. It would still be an American obsession

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Sure, it'll be more difficult, but isn't that also just how unfair life is. Some are born with nothing, others everything.

"Life is unfair so let's make it even more unfair"

It's other people's lives. Yes. And do you agree with school shooters? If you don't, what right do you have when it's their life and decision?
What right does a parent have to end their child's life, Maynard? It's the same argument. WHAT THE WOMAN WANTS DOESN'T MATTER WHEN IT COMES TO OTHER PEOPLE'S LIVES.

Now you're reaching holy...
Comparing school shooters to women who abort.

It is not my job to correct bad parents. However, I do think parents should give it their all -- and killing their unborn children because they have a shitty attitude is just enabling them.

OK I understand that you had your experiences that shaped your opinions but the same goes for everyone else. Other people have different ideologies.
I don't want to comment on the private stuff, anything I'd say now would sound unfair and intrusive.

I'm done with this convo for the time being, peace out.✌️✌🏻✌🏼✌🏽✌🏾✌🏿