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first of all: we not let man into bathrooms
My transgender coworker uses the girls bathroom. He started doing so right when his passport got changed.
So yes, biological males aka men do use womens bathrooms. Some even knock up girls in women prisons, lol.

who went through "man puberty" first
A bandaid. Even a male that did not undergo male puberty will have a huge advantage.
This will become forbidden in a few months or years. Its starting to dawn on people that having biological males in female sports is a horrible idea no matter the circumstances.
What is even the message here when a male takes top spot again crushing all time records? That men are the better women? One way to crush 40 years of progress I guess.

waiting for their bodies to change more, and if they went through the man puberty, which yet give unchangeable that easily changes in the body from what I know
You are being fed lies I am afraid. Being male or female is more than just hormonal changes. Low testosterone males will still end up stronger than high testosterone females. No amount of "waiting" will change that.

third: we don't groom kids, it's just them and them alone and their decisions
Kids are impressionable. You may not think that it is grooming, but that is exactly what it is. Voluntarily or involuntarily. Does not matter.
Confused children being led on. A kid before puberty can hardly understand the consequences.
They may know what will happen or what the consequences are, but they do not understand it.
There is a stark difference between knowing something and realizing something.
We all know we will die one day. Realizing this for the first time is completely different though.
We do not trust that kids before 14y can make transactions of any sort or go out late at night, but we are supposed to let them make irreversible and life changing decisions on their body? No, sorry.

they just talk on the stage or read books
Why would drag queens even want to read books to children?
It got normalized so much for you that you do not even see it as weird.

I am all for equality and that stuff as long as people are being honest. To themselves and others.
 

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My transgender coworker uses the girls bathroom. He started doing so right when his passport got changed.
So yes, biological males aka men do use womens bathrooms. Some even knock up girls in women prisons, lol.
that's still a woman and do you really think that everyone does that?

A bandaid. Even a male that did not undergo male puberty will have a huge advantage.
This will become forbidden in a few months or years. Its starting to dawn on people that having biological males in female sports is a horrible idea no matter the circumstances.
What is even the message here when a male takes top spot again crushing all time records? That men are the better women? One way to crush 40 years of progress I guess.
Mate, you kinda don't get how exactly all of that work.
https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-do-trans-athletes-have-an-advantage-in-elite-sport/a-58583988
https://www.science.org/content/art...der-women-competing-does-science-support-rule
https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/01/26/trans-women-no-unfair-advantage-elite-sport-new-report-finds/

You are being fed lies I am afraid. Being male or female is more than just hormonal changes. Low testosterone males will still end up stronger than high testosterone females. No amount of "waiting" will change that.
I don't say it's a total magic and all, research and so are non stop made, collecting data how to make sure that trial will be even.

Kids are impressionable. You may not think that it is grooming, but that is exactly what it is. Voluntarily or involuntarily. Does not matter.
Confused children being led on. A kid before puberty can hardly understand the consequences.
They may know what will happen or what the consequences are, but they do not understand it.
There is a stark difference between knowing something and realizing something.
We all know we will die one day. Realizing this for the first time is completely different though.
We do not trust that kids before 14y can make transactions of any sort or go out late at night, but we are supposed to let them make irreversible and life changing decisions on their body? No, sorry.
As a trans person, who always knew, without any "rainbow influence" since- it's just really hard for one in poland, what am I, I think that if not that I was at that time scared of my parents I would fight for it. You talk about consequences, but to even be let to have a transition you have to go through hours of talks with the psychologist and psychiatrist, especially if ur still a minor, for that you have parent to let you for one, monitoring whole. You have to go through many doctors for tests, waiting for results, and so, to even have consideration that ye u can have it.

You think that kids are stupid, and parents even more, and that you can get from hand the prescriptions. In many cases it can take years to even get that prescription.

Why would drag queens even want to read books to children?
It got normalized so much for you that you do not even see it as weird.
mate, they are just invited for it, as famous people are invited to read them, or local known people
 
that's still a woman and do you really think that everyone does that?
By that time hes was a woman on paper. Which was enough.
You can argue whether or not this is an issue. My point is that its not good to ignore something is indeed happening just cause you think it harms your agenda.
Mate, you kinda don't get how exactly all of that work.
Reality beats theory.
You can write a trillion papers about it and it still will not change reality.
Why would I rely on a biased research when I can open my eyes and see for myself?
There is a huge monetary incentive for the pharma industry in this. Transsexuals become patients and customers for life. Its a fucking goldmine. Take this "science" with a huge grain of salt.
You think that kids are stupid
They are. No question about it. Kid would do the wildest shit for any sort of validation.

Its good poland is making sure that people do not rush a decision.
I hope you are happy with yours and never regret it.
 
Kids are impressionable. You may not think that it is grooming, but that is exactly what it is. Voluntarily or involuntarily. Does not matter.
Confused children being led on. A kid before puberty can hardly understand the consequences.
They may know what will happen or what the consequences are, but they do not understand it.
There is a stark difference between knowing something and realizing something.
The same can be said about kids being dressed in gendered clothing by their parents, being exposed to gender stereotypes through TV, books etc...


Why would drag queens even want to read books to children?
It got normalized so much for you that you do not even see it as weird
Why would anyone want to read books to children or write books for children, all children's book authors must clearly be pedophiles and groomers🀑
I am all for equality and that stuff as long as people are being honest. To themselves and others.
The one who's being dishonest here is you

There is a huge monetary incentive for the pharma industry in this. Transsexuals become patients and customers for life. Its a fucking goldmine.
The one thing I agree on, and one of the main reasons I'm never going to take hormones.
It's impossible to live an independent life if you have to worry about accessing prescribed medicine on a regular basis.
But that's a personal decision, adult individuals should do what they're most comfortable with.
That being said, I'd be happy if society accepted non passing trans and non binary people foe who they are, without pressuring them to change their bodies according to the binary norm.

They are. No question about it. Kid would do the wildest shit for any sort of validation.
That's true in a way but again, this can be said about any other topic, like music or movie or sport preferences.
I don't think underage kids should transition yet but that's what puberty blockers are here for.

As a trans person, who always knew, without any "rainbow influence" since- it's just really hard for one in poland, what am I, I think that if not that I was at that time scared of my parents I would fight for it. You talk about consequences, but to even be let to have a transition you have to go through hours of talks with the psychologist and psychiatrist, especially if ur still a minor, for that you have parent to let you for one, monitoring whole. You have to go through many doctors for tests, waiting for results, and so, to even have consideration that ye u can have it.

You think that kids are stupid, and parents even more, and that you can get from hand the prescriptions. In many cases it can take years to even get that prescription.
This process was made much easier in Germany in recent years because of how intrusive and humiliating these mandatory questionings are. I think that's a good development.
 
My transgender coworker uses the girls bathroom. He started doing so right when his passport got changed.
So yes, biological males aka men do use womens bathrooms. Some even knock up girls in women prisons, lol.


A bandaid. Even a male that did not undergo male puberty will have a huge advantage.
This will become forbidden in a few months or years. Its starting to dawn on people that having biological males in female sports is a horrible idea no matter the circumstances.
What is even the message here when a male takes top spot again crushing all time records? That men are the better women? One way to crush 40 years of progress I guess.


You are being fed lies I am afraid. Being male or female is more than just hormonal changes. Low testosterone males will still end up stronger than high testosterone females. No amount of "waiting" will change that.


Kids are impressionable. You may not think that it is grooming, but that is exactly what it is. Voluntarily or involuntarily. Does not matter.
Confused children being led on. A kid before puberty can hardly understand the consequences.
They may know what will happen or what the consequences are, but they do not understand it.
There is a stark difference between knowing something and realizing something.
We all know we will die one day. Realizing this for the first time is completely different though.
We do not trust that kids before 14y can make transactions of any sort or go out late at night, but we are supposed to let them make irreversible and life changing decisions on their body? No, sorry.


Why would drag queens even want to read books to children?
It got normalized so much for you that you do not even see it as weird.

I am all for equality and that stuff as long as people are being honest. To themselves and others.
thank you for existing
 
Kids are impressionable. You may not think that it is grooming, but that is exactly what it is. Voluntarily or involuntarily. Does not matter.
Confused children being led on. A kid before puberty can hardly understand the consequences.
They may know what will happen or what the consequences are, but they do not understand it.
There is a stark difference between knowing something and realizing something.
We all know we will die one day. Realizing this for the first time is completely different though.
We do not trust that kids before 14y can make transactions of any sort or go out late at night, but we are supposed to let them make irreversible and life changing decisions on their body? No, sorry.


Why would drag queens even want to read books to children?
It got normalized so much for you that you do not even see it as weird.
Gender affirming care is a treatment for gender dysphoria. Gender dysphoria is a psychiatric condition that is diagnosed by a trained professional, who then prescribes treatment based off various factors.

Nobody is being groomed into experiencing gender dysphoria. The idea that something like that is even possible is preposterous. The only reason more people are identifying as transgender openly is because in the past, being transgender wasn't nearly as socially acceptable as it is now.

Making it more socially acceptable for people to be who they are isn't "grooming". Trying to frame the lgbt movement in that way is intentionally bigoted and hurtful.
 
My transgender coworker uses the girls bathroom. He started doing so right when his passport got changed.
So yes, biological males aka men do use womens bathrooms. Some even knock up girls in women prisons, lol.


A bandaid. Even a male that did not undergo male puberty will have a huge advantage.
This will become forbidden in a few months or years. Its starting to dawn on people that having biological males in female sports is a horrible idea no matter the circumstances.
What is even the message here when a male takes top spot again crushing all time records? That men are the better women? One way to crush 40 years of progress I guess.


You are being fed lies I am afraid. Being male or female is more than just hormonal changes. Low testosterone males will still end up stronger than high testosterone females. No amount of "waiting" will change that.


Kids are impressionable. You may not think that it is grooming, but that is exactly what it is. Voluntarily or involuntarily. Does not matter.
Confused children being led on. A kid before puberty can hardly understand the consequences.
They may know what will happen or what the consequences are, but they do not understand it.
There is a stark difference between knowing something and realizing something.
We all know we will die one day. Realizing this for the first time is completely different though.
We do not trust that kids before 14y can make transactions of any sort or go out late at night, but we are supposed to let them make irreversible and life changing decisions on their body? No, sorry.


Why would drag queens even want to read books to children?
It got normalized so much for you that you do not even see it as weird.

I am all for equality and that stuff as long as people are being honest. To themselves and others.
Let's stop the transphobia here, please, this is not the place.

(second time I have to post this, deleting the denounciation of transphobia while keeping said content on a PRIDE thread is unforgivable)

For the others, happy pride month :sweat:
 

Rottkins

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Let's stop the transphobia here, please, this is not the place.

(second time I have to post this, deleting the denounciation of transphobia while keeping said content on a PRIDE thread is unforgivable)

For the others, happy pride month :sweat:
:cheers: thanks mate and happy pride
 
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