Controversial General Political Discussion
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Male hormones and Female hormones vastly differ.
If a boy in puberty starts taking HRT for lets say a year, year and a half, his body was "forced" to change its natural way, and then lets say that same person stops taking HRT, well now his body once again will try to move back to pre HRT growth.
It is blatantly obvious hormone balance is disrupted in every step of the way.
If that is how you wanna view makes no difference to me lol
If a boy in puberty starts taking HRT for lets say a year, year and a half, his body was "forced" to change its natural way, and then lets say that same person stops taking HRT, well now his body once again will try to move back to pre HRT growth.
It is blatantly obvious hormone balance is disrupted in every step of the way.
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If that is how you wanna view makes no difference to me lol
By you....?
How am I a far-right extremist? I'm literally one of the most centrist individuals in this entire thread...
How am I a far-right extremist? I'm literally one of the most centrist individuals in this entire thread...
Basically if you don't fully agree with liberal ideologies you are in fact a far right extremist.
In this thread at least
And it's one of the main reasons the trans community have so many road blocks. The trans community aren't even organized and on the same page as some believe there is a difference between sex and gender, while others believe there is no difference. They go against the facts while some tries to teach tolerance in schools, which only gives the media ammo to exaggerate.
Yea that was the subject
If we let teens take HRT we are causing their bodies to develop in a dif way that it is supposed to, and if they stop how does that affect them
How weaker bone and muscle density will effect boys that get of HRT and how much pain will it cause them down the line
How stronger bone and muscle density will effect girls that get of HRT and how much pain will it cause them down the line
If we let teens take HRT we are causing their bodies to develop in a dif way that it is supposed to, and if they stop how does that affect them
How weaker bone and muscle density will effect boys that get of HRT and how much pain will it cause them down the line
How stronger bone and muscle density will effect girls that get of HRT and how much pain will it cause them down the line
Citation
Steensma, T. D., & Cohen-Kettenis, P. T. (2011). Gender transitioning before puberty? Archives of Sexual Behavior, 40(4), 649–650. https://doi.org/10.1007/s10508-011-9752-2
Abstract
In the last decade, delaying puberty by means of GnRH analogs in gender dysphoric adolescents has become an increasingly accepted treatment. However, most youth who are on puberty delaying hormones appear not to wait with transitioning until they can start cross sex hormone treatment. We wondered what would happen to children who transitioned in childhood, but discover at an older age that they preferred to live in the gender role of their natal sex again. Although gender affirmative treatment, including a complete social transition, may be beneficial for children who will turn out to be persisters, clinicians and caregivers should realize that prediction of an individual child’s psychosexual outcome is very difficult in young children. It is conceivable that the drawbacks of having to wait until early adolescence maybe less serious than having to make a social transition twice. Because the chances are high that the gender dysphoria will disappear by early adolescence, it seems advisable to be very careful when taking steps that are difficult to reverse. (PsycINFO Database Record (c) 2016 APA, all rights reserved)
Steensma, T. D., & Cohen-Kettenis, P. T. (2011). Gender transitioning before puberty? Archives of Sexual Behavior, 40(4), 649–650. https://doi.org/10.1007/s10508-011-9752-2
Abstract
In the last decade, delaying puberty by means of GnRH analogs in gender dysphoric adolescents has become an increasingly accepted treatment. However, most youth who are on puberty delaying hormones appear not to wait with transitioning until they can start cross sex hormone treatment. We wondered what would happen to children who transitioned in childhood, but discover at an older age that they preferred to live in the gender role of their natal sex again. Although gender affirmative treatment, including a complete social transition, may be beneficial for children who will turn out to be persisters, clinicians and caregivers should realize that prediction of an individual child’s psychosexual outcome is very difficult in young children. It is conceivable that the drawbacks of having to wait until early adolescence maybe less serious than having to make a social transition twice. Because the chances are high that the gender dysphoria will disappear by early adolescence, it seems advisable to be very careful when taking steps that are difficult to reverse. (PsycINFO Database Record (c) 2016 APA, all rights reserved)
I see now you specified what you meant by pills because I thought you were just being like anti-medicine in general lol
I think kids should be obviously have to have a psychiatrist throughout the process but if their shrink thinks they're dead set on being trans then at least give em puberty blockers
We wanna talk permanent damage, going through a puberty that isn't right for you does absolutely terrible things to your mind and body. I still have scars on my knuckles because I'd compulsively bite the hairs off the backs of my fingers any time they grew long enough to be visible
Not my worst scars, but my most embarrassingly visible ones.
Adults, I think you should just be able to walk up to your doctor and say "give me this this and this". You're a grown up, figure your shit out yourself. If you end up doing something you regret, thats on you. I sympathize with detransitioners, but sometimes they're like people who are like "nobody WARNED me that getting a tattoo if Nick Jonas on my forearm would be something I'd regret..." own up to your own decisions. Its not a doctors job to tell you "hey, actuall, you're wrong about your own mind and what you want". Just fucking grow up.
I think kids should be obviously have to have a psychiatrist throughout the process but if their shrink thinks they're dead set on being trans then at least give em puberty blockers
We wanna talk permanent damage, going through a puberty that isn't right for you does absolutely terrible things to your mind and body. I still have scars on my knuckles because I'd compulsively bite the hairs off the backs of my fingers any time they grew long enough to be visible
Not my worst scars, but my most embarrassingly visible ones.
Adults, I think you should just be able to walk up to your doctor and say "give me this this and this". You're a grown up, figure your shit out yourself. If you end up doing something you regret, thats on you. I sympathize with detransitioners, but sometimes they're like people who are like "nobody WARNED me that getting a tattoo if Nick Jonas on my forearm would be something I'd regret..." own up to your own decisions. Its not a doctors job to tell you "hey, actuall, you're wrong about your own mind and what you want". Just fucking grow up.
If your kid has heart problem, do you think you should wait until they are 18 to have a surgery ?
If yes, you are coherant. If not, let me remind you that gender disphoria is like living with an heart problem.
The kid might just need psychological guidance and gender affirming care like a new name, a change of appearance and acceptance from family and friends, but sometime, its not enough.
If yes, you are coherant. If not, let me remind you that gender disphoria is like living with an heart problem.
The kid might just need psychological guidance and gender affirming care like a new name, a change of appearance and acceptance from family and friends, but sometime, its not enough.
