General & Others The limit on how many Strawhats possible is gone

Albino ๐Ÿ‘‘

Albino ๐Ÿ‘‘

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Outside of vivi I doubt they'll be anymore senior officers but creation of them opens up the possibility for more to join. With there being an unofficial official separation between Strawhats who are senior officers and those who arenโ€™t. Luffyโ€™s officers being made up of only characters luffy met pre aceโ€™s death and the rest after he returned from his training

Vivi possibly being considered an officer once she reunites with the crew. She was already a strawhat lowkey since alsbasta anyway + her eating the paw fruit makes it even more official.
Also yes I'm also on the vivi eating the paw fruit theory. It fits in story lore wise and out story meta wise with it finishing the devil fruit theory


After vivi it opens up the possibility of other characters with other fruits that have nothing to with the number theory and nothing to do with pre timeskip luffy
Characters like Yamato, momonosuke, kinemon, carrot, Tama, and other characters I can't think of can join later as official strawhats but they won't be senior officers
 
Marine Piece

Marine Piece

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Albino ๐Ÿ‘‘ said:
Outside of vivi I doubt they'll be anymore senior officers but creation of them opens up the possibility for more to join. With there being an unofficial official separation between Strawhats who are senior officers and those who arenโ€™t. Luffyโ€™s officers being made up of only characters luffy met pre aceโ€™s death and the rest after he returned from his training

Vivi possibly being considered an officer once she reunites with the crew. She was already a strawhat lowkey since alsbasta anyway + her eating the paw fruit makes it even more official.
Also yes I'm also on the vivi eating the paw fruit theory. It fits in story lore wise and out story meta wise with it finishing the devil fruit theory


After vivi it opens up the possibility of other characters with other fruits that have nothing to with the number theory and nothing to do with pre timeskip luffy
Characters like Yamato, momonosuke, kinemon, carrot, Tama, and other characters I can't think of can join later as official strawhats but they won't be senior officers
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Why would Oda give a power like this to someone who can't really fight?:choppawhat:
 
ClovenHoofClown

ClovenHoofClown

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Marine Piece said:
Why would Oda give a power like this to someone who can't really fight?:choppawhat:
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i REALLY dont want vivi to join for a multitude of reasons, but if she got that fruit she WOULD be able to fight, and oda can just give her as much immediate mastery over it as is needed for her to be able to at least keep up with or at the very least only slightly trail behind the weak trio.

even if she trained during the timeskip she SHOULDNT even be close to NW fodder level, but oda could just make her as strong as he wants anyways, and i wouldnt mind as long as she was still weaker than usopp. she could be a suitable supporter (moving people around and altering the environment like law), a long-range, distance-clearing assassin type fighter and a "glass tank" (super vulnerable everywhere EXCEPT for her paws which she can use to block and essentially negate attacks as she quickly moves around her opponent and gets in whatever hits she can).

even though she isnt very physically strong, she could at least know basic armament haki by now, or even something special like future sight or observation killing. perhaps the fruit contains "memories" of it's past user (lili in this scenario), which makes vivi naturally attuned to it. maybe oda focuses more on her hypnosis technique, maybe its an ancestral thing, maybe instead of just mesmerization she also has techniques involving illusions, reality distortion (not actually, just in the targets mind), suggestion and emotions, maybe she could somehow launch hypnotic techniques/attacks/effects with her devil fruit powers, possibly spreading them across a specific area so anybody inside would be effected (making her an area control specialist).

really wouldnt want this to happen, but something funny just hit me. what if she, being a diplomat and all, had her own form of "talk no jutsu" that involved "pushing" some of her emotions/empathy/compassion out of her body and forcing it into her opponents, or just pushing hatred/prejudice/rage/malice/despair/greed/trauma/their dreams/the-will-to-fight out of them so that they'd eventually give up or even switch sides.

completely off-topic but personally, vivi getting these fruit would also line up with my agenda of her joining the revos (where she could "replace" kuma/bonney could as well, since imo shes already being built up to become a revolutionary, or bonney could just join the straw hats instead;id certainly prefer her over vivi, but whatevs). i wish oda wouldve given vivi a tomboyish (i think in one of the recent chapters cobra called her tomboyish or something similar, but that isnt true at all, shes very feminine she just has a mind of her own, although something to that effect might have been what was originally said and the translation just got it wrong) design (since she already looks like nami itd have beeen nice if post-timeskip she had short hair like nami did pre-timeskip imo), a distinct darker skin tone (wouldve really made her stand out) and a "rebellious teenage daughter" (while remaining a fiercely empathetic leader) flavor.
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Marine Piece

Marine Piece

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ClovenHoofClown said:
i REALLY dont want vivi to join for a multitude of reasons, but if she got that fruit she WOULD be able to fight, and oda can just give her as much immediate mastery over it as is needed for her to be able to at least keep up with or at the very least only slightly trail behind the weak trio.

even if she trained during the timeskip she SHOULDNT even be close to NW fodder level, but oda could just make her as strong as he wants anyways, and i wouldnt mind as long as she was still weaker than usopp. she could be a suitable supporter (moving people around and altering the environment like law), a long-range, distance-clearing assassin type fighter and a "glass tank" (super vulnerable everywhere EXCEPT for her paws which she can use to block and essentially negate attacks as she quickly moves around her opponent and gets in whatever hits she can).

even though she isnt very physically strong, she could at least know basic armament haki by now, or even something special like future sight or observation killing. perhaps the fruit contains "memories" of it's past user (lili in this scenario), which makes vivi naturally attuned to it. maybe oda focuses more on her hypnosis technique, maybe its an ancestral thing, maybe instead of just mesmerization she also has techniques involving illusions, reality distortion (not actually, just in the targets mind), suggestion and emotions, maybe she could somehow launch hypnotic techniques/attacks/effects with her devil fruit powers, possibly spreading them across a specific area so anybody inside would be effected (making her an area control specialist).

really wouldnt want this to happen, but something funny just hit me. what if she, being a diplomat and all, had her own form of "talk no jutsu" that involved "pushing" some of her emotions/empathy/compassion out of her body and forcing it into her opponents, or just pushing hatred/prejudice/rage/malice/despair/greed/trauma/their dreams/the-will-to-fight out of them so that they'd eventually give up or even switch sides.

completely off-topic but personally, vivi getting these fruit would also line up with my agenda of her joining the revos (where she could "replace" kuma/bonney could as well, since imo shes already being built up to become a revolutionary, or bonney could just join the straw hats instead;id certainly prefer her over vivi, but whatevs). i wish oda wouldve given vivi a tomboyish (i think in one of the recent chapters cobra called her tomboyish or something similar, but that isnt true at all, shes very feminine she just has a mind of her own, although something to that effect might have been what was originally said and the translation just got it wrong) design (since she already looks like nami itd have beeen nice if post-timeskip she had short hair like nami did pre-timeskip imo), a distinct darker skin tone (wouldve really made her stand out) and a "rebellious teenage daughter" (while remaining a fiercely empathetic leader) flavor.
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You re missing the point, she is not designed to have this df it simply don't work, do you really see Vivi doing the same thing kuma does?:pepecafe:
 
Alter

Alter

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Vivi will be the next user of Nikyu Nikyu no Mi' theory is relied on one assumption:
Queen Lily of Alabasta was the previous user of Nikyu Nikyu no Mi.

That assumption was mainly based on interpretation of some vague line from Imu:
Phoneglyph was scattered across the world by Lily's 'mistake'.


The chances for Vivi having Kuma's DF are pretty slim for now with current evidences, thought it is not impossible.
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Monkey D Monkey

Monkey D Monkey

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#12
I agree that Vivi will join back with the Straw Hats, but I donโ€™t think Lily and Vivi are the Paw Paw Fruit users, but rather the Ancient Weapon Uranus. IM fears Uranus because Uranus controls beasts of the sky and he is some God Dragon Monster.
 
BlackLegFring

BlackLegFring

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#14
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Glad it was already cut off with members Luffy met before the time skip.

I still donโ€™t understand why so many people wanted random characters to join when so many current Strawhats are already neglected.
 
C

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ClovenHoofClown said:
distinct darker skin tone (wouldve really made her stand out) and a "rebellious teenage daughter" (while remaining a fiercely empathetic leader) flavor.
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Wouldn't make sense for her skin to be the opposite of both her parents, you would need for cobra to change aswell.

With that said, i would like to see a girl like yoruichi in OP.
 
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