Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1087 Spoilers Discussion

[Tejas]

No Kuzan got better lethality, he can literally one shot everyone in the verse

Could not oneshot people with Adv CoC

 

[Roronoa-sama]

Ride on Aokiji train man, still there's time

never. Shiryu is better and stronger than him

 

[ConquistadoR]

Boo

He looks like he just dropped the Soap in front of Magellan lmfao

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

Shiryu's checkered fate in this spoiler thread:

1. Early spoiler: Shiryu stabbed Garp -> Whiryu GOAT
2. New spoiler post: Garp smashed Shiryu to the ground -> Janitoryu bum
3. Full Summary: Shiryu laughed, weakened Garp: Whiryu GOAT again
4. Raw without Text: Shiryu bleeds and sweats: Janitoryu bum again

Based on the pattern so far, his stocks are going up again once the text drops

 

[zzShinichi]

Shiryu is just post Timeskip Ryuma at this point, a mid-diff battle for Zoro
I could be wrong and he has better showings when he fights Beckman (if he fights Beckman) tho

 

[HellBlazer04]

I just can't imagine how Shiryu clashes equally with KoH Zoro

There is no ideal scenario where he can clash with KOH. Which is why just as this chapter proved, the only thing shiryu would do is use underhanded tactics.

 

[Marine Piece]

Could not oneshot
Garp
Marco
Akainu

Superficial icing, he literally said it, if you re frozen to the core you re dead, it's really not that hard of a concept

 

[Roronoa-sama]

BB was damaged to by 3 B enemic and then he defeated him
BB>law
Shiryu>garp
@Boiroy @nik87 @HA001 OF THE RAIN @Shiryuu of the Rain

 

[Boiroy]

Let's go king of hell vs king of ice land

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

It's clear Zoro's won't get any fair 1 vs 1 against a swordsman before Mihawk
Shiryu's fight is going to be a very dirty one.

 

[Kerkovian]

Jinbe used advCoC as per lartrinefans logic today.

 

[Moewu]

People say Bogard is in this Chapter and hes about to give Avalo that Pica treatment

 

[Thabeast]

Shiryu laughing off Garp's punch is crazy

 

[Boiroy]

It's clear Zoro's won't get any fair 1 vs 1 against a swordsman before Mihawk
Shiryu's fight is going to be a very dirty one.

Who said Shiryu deserves to fight grandmaster?
it's jinbo or sanji who will fight him

 

[Halyup]

Wow the Admirals as a whole took a big L this chapter, as well as the BBPs. Only Garp looked good.

In pure strength Aokiji finally achieved what Garp did, but this is only pure strength, nothing else.

Garp threw Aokiji down then fought the BBPs (Wolf, Vasco) etc. then Aokiji came up and when Shiryu went for Coby Garp intercepted it but got stabbed then slammed Shiryu down and while they were facing each other Aokiji charged Garp and then they clashed. Of the two only Garp is confirmed ACoC user, Aokiji covered his fist with ice and there were no ACoC trails in his punch, the final explosion is similar to ACoC but so far nothing indicates it is because of both Aokiji and Garp.

L
1. Aokiji matched prime Garps strength, not haki.
2. 78 year Old Garp had time to fight other BBPs before Aokiji recovered from the slam and even got stabbed while trying to protect Coby.
3. Aokiji charged Garp while Garp was facing Shiryu
4. Aokiji coated his fist with haki and Ice, no ACoC trails like every other ACoC attack.
5. Both Garp and Aokiji got sent flying.

From the looks of this current Aokiji who is prime Admiral level is being outmatched by a 78 year old Garp who has been shown twice to comment on his strength declining due to old age (W7 and Beehive).

Prime Garp was truly a monster and these Admirals are not Yonko level, at least Aokiji is not.

While Shiryu seems hurt from a non ACoC non named slam from Garp, he is still laughing and getting back up. Him being able to stab Garp is a good feat though because Garp is shown using haki on his hand to grab the sword so Garp not using haki to defend against the stab even when he intercepted is stupid (but Oda does anything for plot). Garp smiling after the stab and countering is giving Zoro vs Killer vibes here.

Its actually the yoncucks that took the L
BB pirates been underwhelming

 

[JoNdule]

He has good AP but his durability/endurance is bottom of the barrel

Aokiji walked off an ACoC named attack while Garp was healthy but Shiryu can barely take a hakiless punch without wheezing

AP/Lethality and Hax >>>>> everything else in his arsenal

What good AP?

Injuring Garp or WB with casual stabs isn't impressive since they have normal human durability

Shiryu sucks

 

[Roronoa-sama]

Jinbe used advCoC as per lartrinefans logic today.

You don't understand how adv coc works (admiralfan asnwer)

 

[SakazOuki]

Shiryu laughing off Garp's punch is crazy

Its a hakiless punch, should be able to do the laundry while taking such trivial attack
Instead he's 3 feet into the grave

 

[MarineHQ]

@Elder Lee Hung @SakazOuki @Extravlad @Kurozumi Wiwi @Apollo

Honestly we can live with 3B bounty for every Admiral, it could've been worse imagine below 3B.....

A bit disappointed because of Kizaru so I assume Kuzan will be between 3-3.5B while Akainu will be 3.5-4B

 

[JoNdule]

Unpopular opinion
Sengoku would perform better in place of Garp in this situation
DF is important if you're gonna raid boss with a declining physical stats and stamina

Yep
People think having no df is advantage lol

In such situations: Sengoku could survive and beat all BBP + even push kuzan for away with his shockwave
Then escape