Powers & Abilities Does Kuzan have CoC?

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Warchief Sanji D Goat

Queen Gunko!➡️⬆️⬇️⬅️
#62
- No skysplitting.
- No CoC lightning trails from Kuzan's hand.
- Their punches seem direct.

It doesn't seem like it's Adv CoC from Kuzan.

Although what Major Lee posted just now seems interesting, Oda draws black lines impact and the Haki explosion looks similar to Roger and Whitebeard clash.

If that was Adv CoC then Oda did a bad job indicating it, which is not surprising since Haki is the worst shit Oda has ever invented.

Anyway, even if it wasn't Adv CoC, Admiral fans shouldn't treat it as an L, it's a W for Kuzan to match CoA evenly with Garp who is one, if not the greatest CoA user of all time.
 
#63
And like I said, the lack of trails doesn’t disprove the Godbeams and the dome like you said lol.
Yeah, but no harm in saying it lol.
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Eh it could be garp coc landing .
If It was only Garp, the "dome" would be only at this side and it would have this form " ( ", not this "^" , covering both Aokiji and Garp.
 
#66
The thing is, we saw him set up the attack. In that panel, we just see him using ice powers with no black lightning.

When it’s ACoC, we see black lightning on the punch before it’s thrown. We never got that with Kuzan.

Furthermore, if it was ACoC, you would expect an ACoC clash between Garp and an admiral to split the sky, but it didn’t.

Hence imo Kuzan used ACoA+logia powers and Garp used ACoC + ACoA.
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Or sky split
Why would you expect a sky split ? garp upon flying in and doing the galaxy punch admitted that he was weaker...shanks and zoro when using adv coc immediatley knocked out fodder while garps punch did no such thing in fact they reacted to him coming in and got right back up. Wouldn't it just mean that garp is the one that is no longer on sky splitting level not aokiji?
 
#67
Why would you expect a sky split ? garp upon flying in and doing the galaxy punch admitted that he was weaker...shanks and zoro when using adv coc immediatley knocked out fodder while garps punch did no such thing in fact they reacted to him coming in and got right back up. Wouldn't it just mean that garp is the one that is no longer on sky splitting level not aokiji?
There’s no way Garp isn’t sky splitting level.
 
#69
There’s no way Garp isn’t sky splitting level.
uhh why exactly can he not be??? whitebeard went from splitting the sky on his medication with shanks to never doing it again? Luffy went from clashing with kaido but not using adv coc right and could not sky split to sky splitting with kaido when he returned? Check the panels man.

Shanks example (He attacks and the fodder are knocked out around him):


Luffy example (Not attacking but flowing adv coc to which people are being knocked out):


Zoro example (Just like luffy not attacking, but flowing adv coc out of swords this knocks fodder out):


Garp example 1 (garp comes flying in flexing adv coc,and instead of fodder being knocked out they react to him shocked):


Garp attack aftermath (they are sent flying nobody knocked out):


Garp attack aftermath 2 ( fodder up talking about revenge on garp again nobody is knocked out garp admits to being weaker):


Garp Example 2 (fodder reacting to the fight and again even with blue hole no fodder are knocked out in the process):


Everything points to him using adv coc,but the fact that his adv coc is not knocking out fodders while in all the other examples they are is definitely saying something. Garp while indeed strong is not as strong as he used to be even using adv coc and being impressive af.:steef:
 
#70
uhh why exactly can he not be??? whitebeard went from splitting the sky on his medication with shanks to never doing it again? Luffy went from clashing with kaido but not using adv coc right and could not sky split to sky splitting with kaido when he returned? Check the panels man.

Shanks example (He attacks and the fodder are knocked out around him):


Luffy example (Not attacking but flowing adv coc to which people are being knocked out):


Zoro example (Just like luffy not attacking, but flowing adv coc out of swords this knocks fodder out):


Garp example 1 (garp comes flying in flexing adv coc,and instead of fodder being knocked out they react to him shocked):


Garp attack aftermath (they are sent flying nobody knocked out):


Garp attack aftermath 2 ( fodder up talking about revenge on garp again nobody is knocked out garp admits to being weaker):


Garp Example 2 (fodder reacting to the fight and again even with blue hole no fodder are knocked out in the process):


Everything points to him using adv coc,but the fact that his adv coc is not knocking out fodders while in all the other examples they are is definitely saying something. Garp while indeed strong is not as strong as he used to be even using adv coc and being impressive af.:steef:
My friend if Oda wanted to showcase an ACoC clash he would use the skysplit to emphasize it.
All the examples that you mentioned arent about 2 guys clashing with acoc.

Im not on the team that Kuzan doesnt have coc/acoc but Oda didnt make it clear with this chapter.
 
#72
My friend if Oda wanted to showcase an ACoC clash he would use the skysplit to emphasize it.
All the examples that you mentioned arent about 2 guys clashing with acoc.

Im not on the team that Kuzan doesnt have coc/acoc but Oda didnt make it clear with this chapter.
i know the examples are not about 2 guys clashing with acoc... my point is shanks,luffy,zoro all knocked out the fodder surrounding them with there adv coc when in use, we know luffy and shanks are sky splitters (zoro to be determined later), but this is something that garp can not do when he flows his adv coc signifying that he has indeed grown weaker. For me the fact that his adv coc can not do it while sky splitters like luffy and shanks can is enough to say that garp currently is to old and weak but still strong enough to put on a show and fight. Like whitebeard who with meds could sky split but once off of them his decline started.

I could be totally proven wrong next chapter but that's just my current thoughts with all the adv coco garp is letting out no one is being knocked out unless the black beard pirate fodder is like a step above regular fodder :milaugh:
 
#73
i know the examples are not about 2 guys clashing with acoc... my point is shanks,luffy,zoro all knocked out the fodder surrounding them with there adv coc when in use, we know luffy and shanks are sky splitters (zoro to be determined later), but this is something that garp can not do when he flows his adv coc signifying that he has indeed grown weaker. For me the fact that his adv coc can not do it while sky splitters like luffy and shanks can is enough to say that garp currently is to old and weak but still strong enough to put on a show and fight. Like whitebeard who with meds could sky split but once off of them his decline started.

I could be totally proven wrong next chapter but that's just my current thoughts with all the adv coco garp is letting out no one is being knocked out unless the black beard pirate fodder is like a step above regular fodder :milaugh:
Garp cant be that much weaker than SickBeard tbh and Zoro wasnt able to skysplit because King was not acoc user.

If Kuzan is confirmed as ACoC user next chapter then Oda did a horrible job here.
 
#74
Garp cant be that much weaker than SickBeard tbh and Zoro wasnt able to skysplit because King was not acoc user.

If Kuzan is confirmed as ACoC user next chapter then Oda did a horrible job here.
i don't really see how he did a horrible job when he already established that garp was weaker ,and that his adv coc was not strong enough to knock out fodder. Again i could be totally wrong it's just weird that garp can use adv coc but not knock out fodder in the process while young kids like luffy and zoro can when they use it.
 
#75
i don't really see how he did a horrible job when he already established that garp was weaker ,and that his adv coc was not strong enough to knock out fodder. Again i could be totally wrong it's just weird that garp can use adv coc but not knock out fodder in the process while young kids like luffy and zoro can when they use it.
Or maybe Teach’s crew is just that strong.

We saw from impel down and Bonney that he doesn’t let weaklings join his crew.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#80
@Elder Lee Hung
Bruh seriously stop with the godbeam shit. WHo came with that name?

And btw no,these lines aren't indicative of fCoC.

Oda's does these lines to show pressure/force/intensity whatever you want to call it.

Law had them with shock wille
Hmmm Law might have it then, this is exactly what Oda drew for Roger and Whitebeard



Literally the Haki is the exact same

 
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