Powers & Abilities Roger isn’t a swordsman
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didnt Zoro clash with hybrid Kaidou and even bested him in an exchange and leave a scar?
Shanks also clashed with Kaidou and didnt leave a scar
then i guess broken bones Zoro is stronger than Shanks
Shanks also clashed with Kaidou and didnt leave a scar
then i guess broken bones Zoro is stronger than Shanks
I remember they intercepting each other during MF, but it was off paneled.
And I was talking about the ACoC clash that Zoro, for the time being still has not had.
I was not downplaying Zoro, but you guys are OBSESSED that somebody might downplay here that jump at every single thing. It's frankly exhausting.
Zoro was nowhere Kaido level, he hurt him and hurray.
Zoro will probably end top 3 at the end of one piece, what do you guys want, for him to be the strongest always and never grow?
- same panel and chapter that said Mihawk and Shanks have different swordsmanship codes and are categorized differently as swordsmen, its that chapter you keep referencing!
- Yes
- yeah Zoro is a hakiman
- i dont care about Zoro, we are talking about Shanks and Roger being "special grade swordsmen" who are not in the same "swordsmanship class" along with Zoro and Mihawk, yeah its very exhausting to keep going around and distinguishing all this 1000 swordsmen categories
- Yeap, Zoro before his powerup was as helpless as Luffy before the might of Kaidou
- I dont think he will be top 3 of all time maybe top 5
- Yes
- yeah Zoro is a hakiman
- i dont care about Zoro, we are talking about Shanks and Roger being "special grade swordsmen" who are not in the same "swordsmanship class" along with Zoro and Mihawk, yeah its very exhausting to keep going around and distinguishing all this 1000 swordsmen categories
- Yeap, Zoro before his powerup was as helpless as Luffy before the might of Kaidou
- I dont think he will be top 3 of all time maybe top 5
The burden of proof to convince people that someone who uses a sword is not a swordsman is up to you.
When is say proof i mean this - evidence or argument establishing a fact or the truth of a statement, not your imaginary fantasies about cutting feats or they didnt use swordsmanship at their young age or whatever.
When is say proof i mean this - evidence or argument establishing a fact or the truth of a statement, not your imaginary fantasies about cutting feats or they didnt use swordsmanship at their young age or whatever.
I am sorry if you cannot understand what I write, I can suggest you re-read the conversation we had on this topic, if you can.
I explained my point of view, I don't need to show a specific panel to prove that neither Roger nor Shanks have ever mentioned anything about being interested in WSS, because it doesn't exist. I explained it thoroughly with multiple examples.
What does it mean Zoro is a hakiman? If you had read what I wrote, I specially disliike that because everyone in OP is an hakiman.
I just say that there are no specific categories, or if any, there are 2. One that use swords as tools to achieve an end, and another where the sword itself is the end. I already explained my POV, so if you disagree, feel free to disagree.
I don't understand why bring up Luffy, if it's because for you it's precious to defend Zoro's ego, feel free, I don't really give a shit.
Happy to explain further, but I already expanded on my points. In bold in my main opinion, if you disagree, happy to disagree, but please, don't ask me to post a panel where I have to prove that Shanks doesn't care about being WSS, because I literally cannot. I can only prove that they fought once 24 years ago, and that so far, the only things we have seen Shanks really be after, were the Gom Gom, shady stuff with government and the One Piece. We have seen him being a swordman, and that is what I think.
I explained my point of view, I don't need to show a specific panel to prove that neither Roger nor Shanks have ever mentioned anything about being interested in WSS, because it doesn't exist. I explained it thoroughly with multiple examples.
What does it mean Zoro is a hakiman? If you had read what I wrote, I specially disliike that because everyone in OP is an hakiman.
I just say that there are no specific categories, or if any, there are 2. One that use swords as tools to achieve an end, and another where the sword itself is the end. I already explained my POV, so if you disagree, feel free to disagree.
I don't understand why bring up Luffy, if it's because for you it's precious to defend Zoro's ego, feel free, I don't really give a shit.
Happy to explain further, but I already expanded on my points. In bold in my main opinion, if you disagree, happy to disagree, but please, don't ask me to post a panel where I have to prove that Shanks doesn't care about being WSS, because I literally cannot. I can only prove that they fought once 24 years ago, and that so far, the only things we have seen Shanks really be after, were the Gom Gom, shady stuff with government and the One Piece. We have seen him being a swordman, and that is what I think.
There's no category where the sword itself is the end
Swords are tools
Zoro has gone through more swords than anyone
He doesn't give a shit as long as he has 3.
The only one is Wado and that's because someone died
Meanwhile the guy you say used it as a tool had one sword for longer than zoro has been alive and named his only child after it.
Swords are tools
Zoro has gone through more swords than anyone
He doesn't give a shit as long as he has 3.
The only one is Wado and that's because someone died
Meanwhile the guy you say used it as a tool had one sword for longer than zoro has been alive and named his only child after it.
Do you understand that I mean "the sword" as a concept right?
what part of:
I just say that there are no specific categories, or if any, there are 2. One that use swords as tools to achieve an end, and another where the sword itself is the end. I already explained my POV, so if you disagree, feel free to disagree.
It's hard for you to grasp?
The sword as an end means being one with the art of the sword, which is what being the WSS is like.
what part of:
I just say that there are no specific categories, or if any, there are 2. One that use swords as tools to achieve an end, and another where the sword itself is the end. I already explained my POV, so if you disagree, feel free to disagree.
It's hard for you to grasp?
The sword as an end means being one with the art of the sword, which is what being the WSS is like.
Its you who cant read and understand what im saying, take off the agenda cap for a bit and we wont have this type of problem anymore.
So you can say whatever you want even when you know its utter bullshit but it doesnt matter since you wont explain it because you place agendas over facts, logic and comprehension, we all have heard you loud and clear!
Yes everyone in One Piece is a hakiman.
So its no longer multiple categories its just 2 now? but then again since Mihawk is the strongest of all categories why is it a problem for you?
Calm your tits Mr. Ladyman, im stating a manga fact that mighty Kaidou was beating everyone up, why are you getting upset?
There is nothing to agree or disagree about since what you are saying goes against what Oda has stated, this is not a mater of opinions but an outright fact that you seem to not want to accept i take it because of your delusional agendas. Shanks and Mihawk didnt fight once 24 years ago LOL or are you referencing the same chapter that told you about wordsman categories again?
Yes swordsman Shanks has been using his swordsmanship to commit pirate activities like stealing a DF from the government, or using his privileges as a CD to go talk to the 5 Elders, or trying to find OP, but then i guess marine hunter Mihawk is also not about that swordsmanship life because he is all about hunting marines, chilling on an island while farming and drinking wine and now is going after the One Piece. We have seen him being a swordsman, and that is what i think.
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Its you who cant read and understand what im saying, take off the agenda cap for a bit and we wont have this type of problem anymore.
So you can say whatever you want even when you know its utter bullshit but it doesnt matter since you wont explain it because you place agendas over facts, logic and comprehension, we all have heard you loud and clear!
Yes everyone in One Piece is a hakiman.
So its no longer multiple categories its just 2 now? but then again since Mihawk is the strongest of all categories why is it a problem for you?
Calm your tits Mr. Ladyman, im stating a manga fact that mighty Kaidou was beating everyone up, why are you getting upset?
There is nothing to agree or disagree about since what you are saying goes against what Oda has stated, this is not a mater of opinions but an outright fact that you seem to not want to accept i take it because of your delusional agendas. Shanks and Mihawk didnt fight once 24 years ago LOL or are you referencing the same chapter that told you about wordsman categories again?
Yes swordsman Shanks has been using his swordsmanship to commit pirate activities like stealing a DF from the government, or using his privileges as a CD to go talk to the 5 Elders, or trying to find OP, but then i guess marine hunter Mihawk is also not about that swordsmanship life because he is all about hunting marines, chilling on an island while farming and drinking wine and now is going after the One Piece. We have seen him being a swordsman, and that is what i think.
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Do you even read the story?
Zoro literally gives fucking funerals to the swords that are destroyed.
"A Dead Sword", literally implies it's more than just a tool.
Zoro literally gives fucking funerals to the swords that are destroyed.
"A Dead Sword", literally implies it's more than just a tool.
He gave up shusui with no issue as long as he had 3 swords.
I've already debunked this.
Zoro uses swords as tools to channel his power which is why all his power ups are haki related