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Joygirl gave the info that Charlie was a kill target. Can you bring up Mono doing this please? Anyway I can see him being town the most of my PoE so I'm not that stuck on it and would probably replace him with Melkor, as far as UwU goes you seem to be assuming he must have protected him when Charlie also claimed that T-Pein was made to have 50% of his actions fail. If Pein made the kill that UWU's claim could have been to cover Pein - why have you not considered this angle?
I do remember Mono came out with info. I don't remember every single detail on who gave exactly what info. I never knew Charlie claimed that Tpein was made to have 50% of his actions fail.
 

Ratchet

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I do remember Mono came out with info. I don't remember every single detail on who gave exactly what info. I never knew Charlie claimed that Tpein was made to have 50% of his actions fail.
Alright well you've just tried to attack my PoE that included him on the basis of information that you clearly can't describe - what am I to do with this Juliet? You can't just say "he did this so town" and then when I challenge it say "well I can't remember everything" - if you think he's town for x reaso then surely you have a vested interest in establishing that?

It's quite possible he did claim something in which case I suggest you find what it was you're town reading him for and bring it up - swiftly.
 

EkkoLoJinx

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There are other reasons why I think he's town but most of it just a more elaborate summary of what I've said there. He also has an innocent on him, from you.
going to do "The Melkor" here and say im interested in what would those reasons be
i dont think ive been outside of my scum range so ur read of me might be a bit generous
 
So, I haven't read anything from the day.

Anyway, there was a kill on me, a protect on Charlie, and an Upgrade on Reloaded.

I can stop or let 3 actions pass.

If anyone knows what upgrade is, tell me so I can stop or pass it.
It was this claim from him that looked towny. He didn't know what upgrade is and he looked confused. If he was scum I think he would have kept this to himself and use these actions to his advantage getting help from his scum mates.
 

EkkoLoJinx

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i dont have anything else to add

yeet mich, check her abilities, can yeet ratchet if she has what she claims. alwaysmind flip had sucker punch so mich may not have it, or its an ability with similar name but a different effect

primary PoE remains: sallu, jules, muugen and now adding uwu (can yeet before muugen too as muugen was atleast *solving* despite it being complete shit and NAI)

indie candidates wud be kiku or ratchet. blindspots can be hime psyloke or mono. everyone else i have penciled down as town

lastly, still busy until end of month
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
going to do "The Melkor" here and say im interested in what would those reasons be
i dont think ive been outside of my scum range so ur read of me might be a bit generous
Sure - your defence Day 2 was obstinate when thread sentiment was heavily against you, you don't really stand to gain anything from playing g that day like that as scum as you very easily could have been lynched.

Your frustration around some elements of how players have played read as genuine. This by itself doesn't mean much, but it's a factor.

Day 3 as I mentioned you have a pretty genuine process - positionally you would stand to gain by buddying me but you haven't done that - in fact I think you've resisted a fair bit despite us having a similar PoE which demonstrates independencey/not an agenda

Frankly I don't think you play much of how you have around my slot if you're scum, much less Flowers.

T-Pein basically precludes you from being Red with his whole "no bussing" thing so that's one team you straight up don't fit on

Orange killed Joygirl, unlikely to be your team because why kill a player you've been scumreading and have ample room to push, you could even parrot what I was bringing up on her yesterday to support the case.

You haven't tried to leverage the innocent investigation and rather suspected it back - I don't think you sign off on Juliet clearing you if you're scum together in that way, otherwise you'd be more inclined to have Juliet supported in thread because you would know she's town and the key to clearing you

If you think all this in combination with one another is inside of your scum range, you are delusional.
 

Ratchet

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It was this claim from him that looked towny. He didn't know what upgrade is and he looked confused. If he was scum I think he would have kept this to himself and use these actions to his advantage getting help from his scum mates.
Eh this feels mailed in - it's completely different to what your original reason was and it isn't very well conceived. I certainly don't think you have any business to be drawing objections to his inclusion in a poe and I can even see him as town to be honest
 
Eh this feels mailed in - it's completely different to what your original reason was and it isn't very well conceived. I certainly don't think you have any business to be drawing objections to his inclusion in a poe and I can even see him as town to be honest
That post of mine was the first time I talked about my read on him. I never gave a different reason.
 
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