General & Others 2.2 billion Blackbeard vs cross guild bounties

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VS

Why do you think Blackbeard’s bounty was as low as it was in comparison to cross guild’s bounty?


It’s not like 2.2 billion emperor Blackbeard himself was ever actually comparable to crocodile of all people in legit any way. It’s not like buggy or mihawk was significantly stronger either
If we go by the logic that crew’s boost bounty despite luffy and law’s post dressrosa and wano bounties it makes even less sense

Imo there’s no deeper reason other than bounty never reflect an accurate or 100% true representation of strength and danger. It just represents your known feats and achievements nothing more nothing less. Actually technically it could be lower when the world government wants to hide information like luffy beating Moria


the 2.2 billion bounty representing his rocky port incident feats

1. Had no bounty pre marineford
2. He definitely got a bounty post marineford tho probably not that big
   • Yeah he played a role in raiding impel down, killing an already dying whitebeard, and ate the quake fruit but I don’t think any of that would raise him too much
     • Especially after luffy only got 400 million for everything between sabaody and marineford
     • The highest bounty of the impel down recruits lowkey might have boosted him more than marineford. Kinda like Kuzan boosted him
3. Assuming his bounty wasn’t already already higher than Marco’s 1.374 billion he probably got a boost from the grudge war
4. The Rocky port incident was most likely the reason he had the 2.2 billion. With him getting credit for taking down Ochoku and taking Hachinosu as his base
5. Kuzan being known as an official member boosting his bounty to 3.996 billion. With them scaling teach using the past admiral as reference. Imo the same way the would have scaled him had he defeated him

But yeah it’s not like any of them separately were comparable to Blackbeard overall or that cross guild was comparable to the Blackbeard Pirates. It’s just their bounties being based on information known or at least believed by the world government

When it comes crocodile at least (….mihawk too) they likely do get some extra boost in bounty from things like

1. Being in an emperor crew
2. Cross guild unlike other emperor crews going straight up against the marines and by default world government
3. Maybe even a boost for being past ex warlords or because they were used as the model for the seraphim
   • I say that one because it would better explain Jinbe’s bounty too imo
4. As for buggy crocodile but mainly mihawk raised his bounty and perceived strength plus leading an anti marine group

I think Oda realized BB's bounty was too low and used his recent DF hunting expedition to retcon it.

 

[Albino 👑]

They don't scale feats but threat level only.
Teach pre ts has done more than probably any pirate in history bar Luffy.

By feats I just mean general achievements. His greatest achievement likely beating Ochoku and taking pirate island during the rocky port incident. That or beating the wbp remnants during the grunge war.

And not really no
Tbh I forgot to include his pre marineford feats so him beating ace and thatch would definitely help raise his bounty but nothing he did would raise it past what he had.
Him beating them would likely raise his bounty more than him and his whole crew jumping a more than half dead whitebeard. Having strong devil fruit don’t do much to raise bounty.
Beating Marco isn’t going to give him a huge bounty either

unironically Kuzan joining under him as subordinate was his greatest feat which is why it raised when it became known information

 

[Cruxroux]

His greatest achievement likely beating Ochoku and taking pirate island during the rocky port incident. That or beating the wbp remnants during the grunge war.

His greatest achievement is
Breaking down into Impel down
Releasing level 6 prisoners
Interfering in Marineford
Killing WB
He owns two of the strongest fruit in history.
He knows his shit , Gorosei already might have noticed xebec Merchandise on BB ship.

This accounted for 2.2 B

 

[Albino 👑]

His greatest achievement is
Breaking down into Impel down
Releasing level 6 prisoners
Interfering in Marineford
Killing WB
He owns two of the strongest fruit in history.
He knows his shit , Gorosei already might have noticed xebec Merchandise on BB ship.

This accounted for 2.2 B

1. Along with luffy, Jinbe, Ivankov, crocodile, and buggy
2. Same as 1 they all got credit
3. Same as above
4. Killing a dying whitebeard with his whole crew
5. Law has a fruit worth 5 billion connected to the national treasure in Mary joa. Having a strong fruit doesn’t automatically raise your bounty an insane amount. Also luffy
6. Knowing xebec isn’t going to do much especially considering there are a bunch of characters above the age of 40 that would know him

Luffy punch a celestial dragon, got credit for impel down, played a big role in marineford surpassing, dragons son, aces brother, conquerors, etc
His bounty was 400 mil

So yes Blackbeard 2.2 is more than fitting

 

[Cruxroux]

Along with luffy, Jinbe, Ivankov, crocodile, and buggy

They sneaked in , and sneaked out , BB went on a rampage inside.

Same as 1 they all got credit

And they deserve it.

Same as above

Impact BB had was more than Luffy. Luffy was there he couldn't change shit.

Killing a dying whitebeard with his whole crew

Yet he was the one to pull it off.

Law has a fruit worth 5 billion connected to the national treasure in Mary joa. Having a strong fruit doesn’t automatically raise your bounty an insane amount. Also luffy

Their fruit isn't considered strongest!

Knowing xebec isn’t going to do much especially considering there are a bunch of characters above the age of 40 that would know him

That man is erased from history , anyone trying to revive that name and his ideology again is a threat. Imagine someone pulling up with Hitler ideology in current era.

 

[Albino 👑]

They sneaked in , and sneaked out , BB went on a rampage inside.



And they deserve it.



Impact BB had was more than Luffy. Luffy was there he couldn't change shit.



Yet he was the one to pull it off.



Their fruit isn't considered strongest!



That man is erased from history , anyone trying to revive that name and his ideology again is a threat. Imagine someone pulling up with Hitler ideology in current era.

And none of that is worth more than he had. Especially looking at all the other characters he shared credit with each time

Just look at everything luffy did to just a 400 million bounty
Just look at everything luffy accomplished to get 1.5 billions

Blackbeard bounty reflected what he did fine

 

[Cruxroux]

And none of that is worth more than he had. Especially looking at all the other characters he shared credit with each time

Just look at everything luffy did to just a 400 million bounty
Just look at everything luffy accomplished to get 1.5 billions

Blackbeard bounty reflected what he did fine

Sabo gets flame emperor title for Invading Mariejois.

Luffy bounty and fruit was kept hidden..... WG doesn't want the world to know.

 

[Albino 👑]

Sabo gets flame emperor title for Invading Mariejois.

Luffy bounty and fruit was kept hidden..... WG doesn't want the world to know.

He saw imu along with the gorosie along as knowing about Lily
A Significantly bigger secret than knowing xebec

His awakened form was leaked along with him keeping the d in his name. They failed to keep it hidden

 

[Cruxroux]

His awakened form was leaked along with him keeping the d in his name. They failed to keep it hidden

And hence gave him a 3B bounty.
You think he deserves more than that?
He ain't surviving kamasuri either... If it hits.

 

[Albino 👑]

And hence gave him a 3B bounty.
You think he deserves more than that?
He ain't surviving kamasuri either... If it hits.

With both his awakened form and d initial staying and being leaked they could have chosen to update it again any time they wanted

Luffy’s bounty reflects the shared credit he got with kid and law for beating kaido and big mom. Knowing why they gave him the bounty I have no problem with it. Using their reasoning it makes sense why all 3 share the same bounty
Luffy is obviously way stronger with a better crew and that’s why he was made an emperor

The same happened in dressrosa with luffy and law. Both got equal credit and equal bounties for beating Doflamingo. Again Despite luffy and his crew being stronger
It’s consistent with how the world government hands out bounty so I have no problem with it

 

[bluefire12]

VS

Why do you think Blackbeard’s bounty was as low as it was in comparison to cross guild’s bounty?


It’s not like 2.2 billion emperor Blackbeard himself was ever actually comparable to crocodile of all people in legit any way. It’s not like buggy or mihawk was significantly stronger either
If we go by the logic that crew’s boost bounty despite luffy and law’s post dressrosa and wano bounties it makes even less sense

Imo there’s no deeper reason other than bounty never reflect an accurate or 100% true representation of strength and danger. It just represents your known feats and achievements nothing more nothing less. Actually technically it could be lower when the world government wants to hide information like luffy beating Moria


the 2.2 billion bounty representing his rocky port incident feats

1. Had no bounty pre marineford
2. He definitely got a bounty post marineford tho probably not that big
   • Yeah he played a role in raiding impel down, killing an already dying whitebeard, and ate the quake fruit but I don’t think any of that would raise him too much
     • Especially after luffy only got 400 million for everything between sabaody and marineford
     • The highest bounty of the impel down recruits lowkey might have boosted him more than marineford. Kinda like Kuzan boosted him
3. Assuming his bounty wasn’t already already higher than Marco’s 1.374 billion he probably got a boost from the grudge war
4. The Rocky port incident was most likely the reason he had the 2.2 billion. With him getting credit for taking down Ochoku and taking Hachinosu as his base
5. Kuzan being known as an official member boosting his bounty to 3.996 billion. With them scaling teach using the past admiral as reference. Imo the same way the would have scaled him had he defeated him

But yeah it’s not like any of them separately were comparable to Blackbeard overall or that cross guild was comparable to the Blackbeard Pirates. It’s just their bounties being based on information known or at least believed by the world government

When it comes crocodile at least (….mihawk too) they likely do get some extra boost in bounty from things like

1. Being in an emperor crew
2. Cross guild unlike other emperor crews going straight up against the marines and by default world government
3. Maybe even a boost for being past ex warlords or because they were used as the model for the seraphim
   • I say that one because it would better explain Jinbe’s bounty too imo
4. As for buggy crocodile but mainly mihawk raised his bounty and perceived strength plus leading an anti marine group

Croco is a man who rules the underworld

He going to pull a world draft and get out two fujitoras

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

dont think theres much going on in this
guessing oda didnt have an idea of what bounties will look like post wano


2.2 back then was a lot but rn is the kind of bounty I would give to shiryu

 

[Marco]

@Albino 👑 Mihawk failed captain? What you smoking bro. The man made a clown yonko just by standing by his side

If Mihawk was a captain he'd also be greater than his rival Shanks in that too, and whats greater than a Yonko?

WSS > Swordsman
PK > Yonko

 

[Malio]

I guess hunting marines down & being the WSS posed more danger to the WG, than tag teaming WB and claiming his territories for yourself.

Blackbeard kidnapping WG affiliate Coby & his crew defeating Garp, will obviously increase his bounty more. Especially when Mihawks bounty was frozen around a decade ago

 

[CensoredbyWG]

How much will teach's bounty go to after WG get a hold on Garp's kidnapping?

 

[Albino 👑]

Croco is a man who rules the underworld

He going to pull a world draft and get out two fujitoras

That was Doflamingo and it will be again when he returns

 

[Monkey D Monkey]

VS

Why do you think Blackbeard’s bounty was as low as it was in comparison to cross guild’s bounty?


It’s not like 2.2 billion emperor Blackbeard himself was ever actually comparable to crocodile of all people in legit any way. It’s not like buggy or mihawk was significantly stronger either
If we go by the logic that crew’s boost bounty despite luffy and law’s post dressrosa and wano bounties it makes even less sense

Imo there’s no deeper reason other than bounty never reflect an accurate or 100% true representation of strength and danger. It just represents your known feats and achievements nothing more nothing less. Actually technically it could be lower when the world government wants to hide information like luffy beating Moria


the 2.2 billion bounty representing his rocky port incident feats

1. Had no bounty pre marineford
2. He definitely got a bounty post marineford tho probably not that big
   • Yeah he played a role in raiding impel down, killing an already dying whitebeard, and ate the quake fruit but I don’t think any of that would raise him too much
     • Especially after luffy only got 400 million for everything between sabaody and marineford
     • The highest bounty of the impel down recruits lowkey might have boosted him more than marineford. Kinda like Kuzan boosted him
3. Assuming his bounty wasn’t already already higher than Marco’s 1.374 billion he probably got a boost from the grudge war
4. The Rocky port incident was most likely the reason he had the 2.2 billion. With him getting credit for taking down Ochoku and taking Hachinosu as his base
5. Kuzan being known as an official member boosting his bounty to 3.996 billion. With them scaling teach using the past admiral as reference. Imo the same way the would have scaled him had he defeated him

But yeah it’s not like any of them separately were comparable to Blackbeard overall or that cross guild was comparable to the Blackbeard Pirates. It’s just their bounties being based on information known or at least believed by the world government

When it comes crocodile at least (….mihawk too) they likely do get some extra boost in bounty from things like

1. Being in an emperor crew
2. Cross guild unlike other emperor crews going straight up against the marines and by default world government
3. Maybe even a boost for being past ex warlords or because they were used as the model for the seraphim
   • I say that one because it would better explain Jinbe’s bounty too imo
4. As for buggy crocodile but mainly mihawk raised his bounty and perceived strength plus leading an anti marine group

BB’s bounty was low because his Military Might was low previously. His commanders were weaker than most other Yonko’s and he didn’t have their huge army. Teach’s bounty is increasing now as his commanders got stronger due to eating powerful devil fruit, Aokiji joined the crew, and his empire has grown.

In contrast Buggy started out with a higher bounty since Cross Guild has the strongest military of any present Yonko, with all the dangerous impel down criminals he has, crocodile, and Mihawk as commanders.

Luffy bounty is low because his Military might hasn’t proven itself. The Grand Fleet needs to show their abilities.

 

[Albino 👑]

BB’s bounty was low because his Military Might was low previously. His commanders were weaker than most other Yonko’s and he didn’t have their huge army. Teach’s bounty is increasing now as his commanders got stronger due to eating powerful devil fruit, Aokiji joined the crew, and his empire has grown.

In contrast Buggy started out with a higher bounty since Cross Guild has the strongest military of any present Yonko, with all the dangerous impel down criminals he has, crocodile, and Mihawk as commanders.

Luffy bounty is low because his Military might hasn’t proven itself. The Grand Fleet needs to show their abilities.

Nah
Luffy and law’s bounty post dressrosa and wano are the same despite luffy’s significantly stronger crew. They’re the reason he became an emperor but they didn’t make his bounty any larger than law’s
Kuzan joining definitely boosted it considering just how his bounty had to be. With Blackbeard having the power to make him a subordinate

No cross guild isn’t stronger than the rest of the emperors crews. Put them against the strawhats no luffy and they lose

 

[Monkey D Monkey]

Nah
Luffy and law’s bounty post dressrosa and wano are the same despite luffy’s significantly stronger crew. They’re the reason he became an emperor but they didn’t make his bounty any larger than law’s
Kuzan joining definitely boosted it considering just how his bounty had to be. With Blackbeard having the power to make him a subordinate

Law, Kidd, and Luffy’s bounties were the same because they were in alliance, so they shared each others Miltary resources, including the support of Luffy and his crew.

No cross guild isn’t stronger than the rest of the emperors crews. Put them against the strawhats no luffy and they lose

I don’t agree with this. There is case for Mihawk alone being enough to take down the SH crew less Luffy, given his Swordsmanship exceeds Shanks, which one shot Kidd. Adding in Crocodile and the much bigger CG army makes it a stomp. In general there is no Yonko crew without their Yonko that is defeating CG due to Mihawk.

 

[bluefire12]

Law, Kidd, and Luffy’s bounties were the same because they were in alliance, so they shared each others Miltary resources, including the support of Luffy and his crew.


I don’t agree with this. There is case for Mihawk alone being enough to take down the SH crew less Luffy, given his Swordsmanship exceeds Shanks, which one shot Kidd. Adding in Crocodile and the much bigger CG army makes it a stomp. In general there is no Yonko crew without their Yonko that is defeating CG due to Mihawk.

Honestly Crocodile pull a world draft and got two underworld fighters on the level of fujitora