Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

I just wasted time reading the last couple of pages,thnx c4n.

Do you want to take part to the conversation about wokeness ?

 

[GUI VI]

I haven't watched Barbie (and I don't intend to), but I did watch some reviews on YouTube.

Lol, some say it's a progressive, feminist and anti-patriarchy movie, others say it's a capitalist and conservative movie.

I never thought a fucking Barbie doll movie would cause such a fuss lmao.

 

[Mathias]

No one would have ever cared about Barbie if Oppenheimer hadn't been released the same day.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Sound of Freedom was good

 

[GUI VI]

No one would have ever cared about Barbie if Oppenheimer hadn't been released the same day.

Lol, I'm not sure, but the huge cast and great marketing were a huge influence on the Barbie hype

Barbie vs Oppenheimer was just a meme internet

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

No one would have ever cared about Oppenheimer if Berbie hadn't been released the same day.

 

[GUI VI]

No one would have ever cared about Oppenheimer if Berbie hadn't been released the same day.

"Directed by Chistopher Nolan"

 

[Adam 🍎]

No one would have ever cared about Oppenheimer if Berbie hadn't been released the same day.

I legit can't imagine anything interesting to watch about a guy making a bomb

 

[Mathias]

Barbie vs Oppenheimer was just a meme internet

BvO is an inside job. Nukes can't implode dolls

 

[Logiko]

Okay, it's time to come back to the discussion

@Mr. Reloaded You told me that you understood why people were fighting for a more inclusive langage (to remind you, because the way we talk shape the way we think, so I think we can rule that out from "Fake activism", right ? So.. is there any other point for you that are "fake wokeness"/"fake activism" ?

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@Uncle Van I didn't get an answer for that:

Because the usage of pronom has the same principle. To shape how you think.

In other words, by creating a more inclusive language, we also create a more inclusive society.

This is a core principle of linguistic.

Another example here:

https://www.gofluent.com/blog/how-language-affects-the-way-we-think/

Meaning that fighting for a more inclusive langage is also fighting for a more inclusive society.

Do you still believe that langage don't shape the way we think ?

(you can ignore me of course ;) )

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@Adam 🍎 Do you want to answer that question ?

How would you define precisely the term "woke" and can you give me 5/10 strong point to define it (optionnal) ?

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@Cruxroux

On a scale from 1 to 100 (1 being "I'm sure there is not problem" and 100 being "I'm sure there is a problem)..

How sure are you that "woke people" or that "wokeness" is a problem ?

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@NAMELESS , do you want to answer that question ?

How would you define precisely the term "woke" and can you give me 5/10 strong point to define it (optionnal) ?

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

@Mr. Reloaded You told me that you understood why people were fighting for a more inclusive langage (to remind you, because the way we talk shape the way we think, so I think we can rule that out from "Fake activism", right ? So.. is there any other point for you that are "fake wokeness"/"fake activism" ?

Because it's not important.

What's important is ensuring people can get jobs, minimum wage, health care ect.

Not Twitter speak.

 

[NikaInParis]

No one would have ever cared about Barbie if Oppenheimer hadn't been released the same day.

I don't care about either

 

[Logiko]

Because it's not important.

What's important is ensuring people can get jobs, minimum wage, health care ect.

Not Twitter speak.

Don't you think preventing suicide, discriminations and racism is important ?

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Don't you think preventing suicide, discriminations and racism is important ?

Obviously.

 

[Logiko]

Obviously.

Do you know that this is exactly what "woke" people are trying to do ? What part of that do you think is "not important" ?

 

[NikaInParis]

Suicide isn't something you can just lump laong with racism and discrimination.
Suicide is a result of maaaaaaaany different factors (outside and inside), and the reason someone kills themselves iždiffers from person to person.

You can't fight it on a global or even local scale.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Do you know that this is exactly what "woke" people are trying to do ?

No. This is what people who do actual activism are doing.

What we're making fun of in this thread are slacktivist.

Also don't lump in real world issues like racism with pronoun labels

 

[Logiko]

No. This is what people who do actual activism are doing.

What we're making fun of in this thread are slacktivist.

Also don't lump in real world issues like racism with pronoun labels

Question, you told me that you understood the importance of fighting for a more inclusive langage and here you are telling me that you are making fun of it.

Am I understanding correctly or do you want to precise something for me ?

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Suicide isn't something you can just lump laong with racism and discrimination.
Suicide is a result of maaaaaaaany different factors (outside and inside), and the reason someone kills themselves iždiffers from person to person.

You can't fight it on a global or even local scale.

Don't you think that by making a society more inclusive for trans people, we could actually prevent more suicide ?

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Question, you told me that you understood the importance of fighting for a more inclusive langage and here you are telling me that you are making fun of it.

Bro that gif I posted was satire

It was literally a 500 IQ meme.

 

[Logiko]

Bro that gif I posted was satire

It was literally a 500 IQ meme.

So you still don't think that langage can shape the way we think ?