Versus Battle Kakashi Hatake (Naruto) vs Lille Barro (Bleach)
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Interesting matchup since both make themselves intangible. Kakashi’s is both better explained and straight up better since Kakashi’s in another dimension altogether. He should also be able to easily keep up with Barro thanks to his reflexes and Sharingan precog
Don’t see Barro being able to get over Kakashi’s Kamui for this reason and will need to hit him when he’s not intangible.
Likewise, Kakashi only has one move that should work against Barro’s Volstandig. Kamui Raikiri which essentially gives his Raikiri spatial cutting powers. Barro’s intangibility still has him occupying space so it should work on him.
Kakashi wins if he can connect enough attacks, Barro wins if he can outlast Kakashi whose on a limited amount of time with Double EMS
Don’t see Barro being able to get over Kakashi’s Kamui for this reason and will need to hit him when he’s not intangible.
Likewise, Kakashi only has one move that should work against Barro’s Volstandig. Kamui Raikiri which essentially gives his Raikiri spatial cutting powers. Barro’s intangibility still has him occupying space so it should work on him.
Kakashi wins if he can connect enough attacks, Barro wins if he can outlast Kakashi whose on a limited amount of time with Double EMS
Battlefield removers like Kamui are child’s play against Bleach characters since they themselves literally use that stuff all the time in their own verse. It’s arguable if Lille would even get caught with his speed but even then he could literally just deploy the Schatten shadow and just leave.
What the heck is DMS? Something Mangeckyo Sharingan?
What the heck is DMS? Something Mangeckyo Sharingan?
I'd argue Lille is better since his intangibility is always active, even in base. It also prevented Shunsui's shikai's ability from working on him which forces you to follow his game's logic, but with the X-axis he stopped it.
Kakashi can't keep up with Lille's attacks tho. It's instantaneous, there are no bullets fired and it just pierces the space. He'd put a hole into Kakashi before he could use Kamui.
Actually now that I think about it, he can't even use Kamui to block Lille's attacks since there's nothing to use it on.
Unless I forgot, I'm pretty sure Obito is the only one who can actually make himself intangible with Kamui. I don't remember Kakashi doing the same with it, if you can bring something that shows this then I'd appreciate it.
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Kakashi can't Kamui Lille's attacks
Kakashi isn't intangible like Lille is
Kakashi can't react to the speed of Lille's attacks, but he can probably aim dodge like Shunsui.
Lille is winning this
Kakashi can't keep up with Lille's attacks tho. It's instantaneous, there are no bullets fired and it just pierces the space. He'd put a hole into Kakashi before he could use Kamui.
Actually now that I think about it, he can't even use Kamui to block Lille's attacks since there's nothing to use it on.
Unless I forgot, I'm pretty sure Obito is the only one who can actually make himself intangible with Kamui. I don't remember Kakashi doing the same with it, if you can bring something that shows this then I'd appreciate it.
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Kakashi can't Kamui Lille's attacks
Kakashi isn't intangible like Lille is
Kakashi can't react to the speed of Lille's attacks, but he can probably aim dodge like Shunsui.
Lille is winning this
Lille isn’t passively so in base unless he’s opened his eye which he’s forced to keep shut unless he needs to.
Easily dodged and avoided by Shunsui and Nanao even reflected one attack back. Kakashi will he just fine when he doesn’t need to dodge, just phase into his Kamui with a thought, and has reflexes on par with Naruto God tiers + Sharingan precog.
Nothing for Barro to hit either since Kakashi isn’t even in the same physical space he’s in while in intangible.
Kakashi’s got the complete EMS of Obito, with the same right eye that allowed Obito to make himself intangible and was spamming it to have Kaguya’s ash killing bone phase through him.
A few Kamui Raikiris to turn Barro into a bunch of tangible flamingos for Kakashi to sweep through with his Perfect Susano’o and that’s all she wrote.
Easily dodged and avoided by Shunsui and Nanao even reflected one attack back. Kakashi will he just fine when he doesn’t need to dodge, just phase into his Kamui with a thought, and has reflexes on par with Naruto God tiers + Sharingan precog.
Nothing for Barro to hit either since Kakashi isn’t even in the same physical space he’s in while in intangible.
Kakashi’s got the complete EMS of Obito, with the same right eye that allowed Obito to make himself intangible and was spamming it to have Kaguya’s ash killing bone phase through him.
A few Kamui Raikiris to turn Barro into a bunch of tangible flamingos for Kakashi to sweep through with his Perfect Susano’o and that’s all she wrote.
Dual Mangekyo Sharingan aka both eyes. Kakashi attained this form vs Kaguya
I forgot how hax lile was with the rest of the spirit nazis, but DMS Kakashi’s kamui is almost faster than an inter dimensional being. If Kakashi wanted to teleport Lille he would with ease, the problem is how to deal with his intangibility which if I forgot in the canon cause that whole war was a mess lmao
DMS Kakashi has both of Obito’s eyes, ofc he can phase
I forgot how hax lile was with the rest of the spirit nazis, but DMS Kakashi’s kamui is almost faster than an inter dimensional being. If Kakashi wanted to teleport Lille he would with ease, the problem is how to deal with his intangibility which if I forgot in the canon cause that whole war was a mess lmao
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DMS Kakashi has both of Obito’s eyes, ofc he can phase
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It doesn’t matter if his Kamui is faster (which it certainly isn’t), Lille is both intangible and if he somehow does get injured, he can Insta heal. To the point where ‘killing him’ just turns his bodies into clones just as powerful as the original body.
you’re also forgetting Lille’s attacks are lasers at light-speed and easily in terms of AOE could scale to the whole of the Land of Fire (which is a speed feat that to this day nobody in the NV has matched, let alone Kakashi).
Lille’s attacks are also unblockable. Kakashi isn’t dodging shit. He gets oneshot before Lille even opens his eyes
the top end of the Bleach powerscale is ridiculous against pretty much any Shounen excluding DB, Toriko and universes where characters get broken reality warping abilities. Lille doesn’t lose to anybody in the NV aside from possibly Shibai (depending on what abilities he actually had)
you’re also forgetting Lille’s attacks are lasers at light-speed and easily in terms of AOE could scale to the whole of the Land of Fire (which is a speed feat that to this day nobody in the NV has matched, let alone Kakashi).
Lille’s attacks are also unblockable. Kakashi isn’t dodging shit. He gets oneshot before Lille even opens his eyes
the top end of the Bleach powerscale is ridiculous against pretty much any Shounen excluding DB, Toriko and universes where characters get broken reality warping abilities. Lille doesn’t lose to anybody in the NV aside from possibly Shibai (depending on what abilities he actually had)
He is, the eye thing is a limit he puts on himself, it's not something he's forced to do. If he takes it off he's intangible, if he never put it there in the first place, he would be intangible in base passively.
Shunsui and Nanao have better reaction feats than he does, but even if they didn't, they didn't actually dodge Lille's attacks (base form), they dodged the direction of the barrel of his gun.
In Vollstandig, they actually do dodge his attacks which are faster than anything Kakashi has dodged. In Vollstandig, Lille's attack work on intangibles as well.
Barro would hit before Kakashi would phase himself. Kakashi isn't passively intangible, he would expect to see a projectile, but then gets a hole blown inside him since there is no projectile to dodge.
Without knowledge of each other, Kakashi gets popped.
I re-read the fight and you're right. It was near the end so I almost missed it. I take back what I said.
Except they wouldn't do anything since those Kamui Raikiris wouldn't have anything to cut either. Lille's intangibility is better. If we want to go that route, it's intangible to spiritual attacks and physical attacks. Kakashi is just physically intangible.
Those clones aren't dead. They are still immortal and are currently in Hueco Mundo somewhere. Lille is still alive, but his location is unknown. They couldn't kill him despite having EE abilities to use on him.
Shunsui and Nanao have better reaction feats than he does, but even if they didn't, they didn't actually dodge Lille's attacks (base form), they dodged the direction of the barrel of his gun.
In Vollstandig, they actually do dodge his attacks which are faster than anything Kakashi has dodged. In Vollstandig, Lille's attack work on intangibles as well.
Barro would hit before Kakashi would phase himself. Kakashi isn't passively intangible, he would expect to see a projectile, but then gets a hole blown inside him since there is no projectile to dodge.
Without knowledge of each other, Kakashi gets popped.
I re-read the fight and you're right. It was near the end so I almost missed it. I take back what I said.
Except they wouldn't do anything since those Kamui Raikiris wouldn't have anything to cut either. Lille's intangibility is better. If we want to go that route, it's intangible to spiritual attacks and physical attacks. Kakashi is just physically intangible.
Those clones aren't dead. They are still immortal and are currently in Hueco Mundo somewhere. Lille is still alive, but his location is unknown. They couldn't kill him despite having EE abilities to use on him.
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With the way he describes it, being permitted to keep his eyes open when forced to open them the third time (and going straight into Volstandig) he can’t
No they don’t, it’s something he can perfectly do as well, and he doesn’t even need to when he can just phase through it.
No notable speed for them and not all intangibility is the same. Kakashi work by sending his being into another dimension.
Sharingan precog to just aim dodge like slower characters accomplish says otherwise.
You don’t need knowledge to aim dodge like Shunsui did
Yet got sliced by Shunsui’s Reiatsu no problem. Kamui Raikiri is Raikiri cutting through space itself. Barro still occupies space even in Volstandig, so he’s fair game.
And please. Spirits in Bleach can be punched by spiritually aware humans or hit with lamp posts.
Kira took one out and all the other Barro clones even freaked out and yelled “OMG You killed Lille Barro Flamingo No. 385!!!”
They’re perfectly killable. You just got to kill a whole bunch of them,
No they don’t, it’s something he can perfectly do as well, and he doesn’t even need to when he can just phase through it.
No notable speed for them and not all intangibility is the same. Kakashi work by sending his being into another dimension.
Sharingan precog to just aim dodge like slower characters accomplish says otherwise.
You don’t need knowledge to aim dodge like Shunsui did
Yet got sliced by Shunsui’s Reiatsu no problem. Kamui Raikiri is Raikiri cutting through space itself. Barro still occupies space even in Volstandig, so he’s fair game.
And please. Spirits in Bleach can be punched by spiritually aware humans or hit with lamp posts.
Kira took one out and all the other Barro clones even freaked out and yelled “OMG You killed Lille Barro Flamingo No. 385!!!”
They’re perfectly killable. You just got to kill a whole bunch of them,
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