Controversial General Political Discussion

Logiko

Logiko

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Roo said:
Imagine being so politically unhinged that you think all these things are right wing therefore inherently bad in your worldview
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I would not say "bad" I would say "opposed" to my world view. The core values of the right wing are legitimate respounce to our human condition : self preservation, complete freedom, individualism, mind over environment, free will.. those are valid vision of the world. I just think they are opposed to mine.


Roo said:
Modern day liberalisms is pretty center left, closer to “leftisms” than conservatism
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Not really. Take Macron for example...
 
Bob74h

Bob74h

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Logiko said:
Macron
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Macron

he's listed a a socialist


do you see liberal as being synonymous with socialist



Logiko said:
I'm saying that mentallity evolves with their time so its logical to see rightist with value that were hold by the left wing in the past.

Only the alt right and hard conservatist don't support women's rights.
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depends on the specific talking point

there's some positions
I would hold for women right's and others would oppose


like would support them having the right to work but not a huge fan of them having affirmative action as a example


Logiko said:
I'm saying that mentallity evolves with their time so its logical to see rightist with value that were hold by the left wing in the past.
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yea positions change with time
racism is assumed as bad now where this was not the case years ago like it used to entrenched in law

eg jim crow laws

society's standards of what's acceptable changes with time
obviously



Logiko said:
Its a sociological group I don't need to find a person who call themself that. No one will call themself a fascist, it would be dumb. It doesn't mean this group doesn't exist.
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I think it's important since we are talking about a defined group

if it's as objective as your saying it was, Wouldt we have definitions of what these people call themselves and designated behaviors that would make this group serperate to others yknow how you do for any other position


leftists are people who have beliefs in support of transgenderism,support for women and black people over other groups and yatta yatta

why cant you define what makes someone alt right and name examples of people acting in that way, in the same way anyone can do for leftists


and yknow have proof that these alt right people hang out in the same groups,communtiies or whatever

like this should be so easy to prove man as how the alt right is defined differently to neo nazi or conservative


like dont get why you cant simply prove the existence of this group to me

is it cause you made it up to shame right wingers, is that why carrot
 
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Cruxroux

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Logiko said:
Good book you should read about north corea.. (its a comic)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyongyang:_A_Journey_in_North_Korea
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I doubt the book would be true , isn't it more like fiction.
Nothing from North Korea comes out.
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Admiral Maynard said:
North Korea kills you for ripping a poster off the hotel room wall. Interesting country:sighting:
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Does this apply to me as well? 🥹🥹
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NAMELESS said:
lets debate french influence over africa
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How about china new influence over Africa for exploiting their resources.
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Admiral Maynard said:
They're evil. Same as Germany. And Russia ain't better. Nor is China.
African countries need to do their own thing and control their own countries.
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It's British fault. They win by divide and rule. Look at Africa mao ,countries are literally divided into squares , they destroyed cultures and ethnicities and made them fight their own people.
 
Logiko

Logiko

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Bob74h said:
do you see liberal as being synonymous with socialist
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Indeed.. But Macron was as Socialist as I am a fascist.

If you knew who is Macron now, you would understand why I'm saying that he is a rightist.


Bob74h said:
do you see liberal as being synonymous with socialist
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Socialist in France are neo liberals


Bob74h said:
if it's as objective as your saying it was, Wouldt we have definitions of what these people call themselves and designated behaviors that would make this group serperate to others yknow how you do for any other position
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We can differenciate those group of people from the rest because of their action.


Bob74h said:
why cant you define what makes someone alt right and name examples of people acting in that way, in the same way anyone can do for leftists
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Oh I can named you alt right people.. Trump is an example, Ben shapiro also, matt walsh also, desentis also. Etc.


Cruxroux said:
I doubt the book would be true , isn't it more like fiction.
Nothing from North Korea comes out.
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This is an animator from a north korean animation business who went to work in north korea and is tellling what shook him. He obvisouly didn't see everything.
 
NAMELESS

NAMELESS

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Cruxroux said:
I doubt the book would be true , isn't it more like fiction.
Nothing from North Korea comes out.
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Does this apply to me as well? 🥹🥹
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How about china new influence over Africa for exploiting their resources.
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It's British fault. They win by divide and rule. Look at Africa mao ,countries are literally divided into squares , they destroyed cultures and ethnicities and made them fight their own people.
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China wants to build a canal in nicaragua btw
 
Bisoromi Bear

Bisoromi Bear

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Cruxroux said:
It's British fault. They win by divide and rule. Look at Africa mao ,countries are literally divided into squares , they destroyed cultures and ethnicities and made them fight their own people
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Yes. And some Africans today may think that Russia / China are way better than the Europeans but they're wrong, anyone who comes to your country to steal your resources and wants to influence your culture has ulterior motives that are not beneficial for you.
If Africa grew their own crops for example and if traditional herder lifestyles were not under persecution, the lack of Ukrainian grain wouldn't affect Africa.
 
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Cruxroux

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NAMELESS said:
Nope,they will have a way get ships into the Atlantic without the US meddling.It makes total sense.The US can legally block that canal in Panama with their navy.
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US can do anything with their navy 🤦🤷.
Every country which has a aircraft carrier , has 1 or 2...
US is the clown for Having 11 Gerald Ford class Air carriers. 🤦🤦
 
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