[FNZ] Role Madness One Piece Whole Cake Island

[Lord Melkor]

Anyway, I'm going off now.

See ya later.

What is your current read on Saka and Tac?

 

[Flower]

What is your current read on Saka and Tac?

Well, if Saka is scum and used a negative action on TAC, TAC is fine.
If Saka is scum and used sth positive on TAC, they're team mates.
If Saka is Town TAC is scum anyway.

So unless the former is the case fucking off TAC already.

And now my shift has started. Will check the thread later.

 

[MUUGEN]

lol

 

[MUUGEN]

didnt even give an actual read

 

[MUUGEN]

flower speaking like a true politician

 

[Lord Melkor]

Kata went down in like 5 punches

If he returns he is going to be relevant strenght wise.

I think he should return since BBP kidnapped Pudding.

 

[Lord Melkor]

Never flavor. Rarely abilities.

Healer is just very strong: we know poison exists, ergo town should have a counter to it and most importantly scum wouldn’t dare claim healer without knowing if town had one.

My soul is saying Pot is playing scum, but I don’t see a way to disprove a healer claim.

Depends if town or scum role is a poisoner? But Joy should be poisoned by scum?

 

[Lord Melkor]

you were on cal, correct? everyone (and anyone off that did the twist like me) on the cal wagon is a list of potential scum and town suspects
town you wouldn't feel pressed to vote and rush it, imo

I said why earlier, he was not being very townie to me (no contributions and odd behaviour with asking people to abstain night 1) and i did not like the option of switching to inactive for CFD which was on the table.

There were 9 people on Cal's wagon, obviously not all are scum, who of them look most suss to you?

 

[Ratchet]

So Fuji clarified that the poison was done today, but technically was done before I subbed in and he had forgotten to mention it initially. In that case, we can throw out some spec - why on earth would anyone poison Kerk today of all days? I'll have to ISO him and see what he was pushing.

 

[Kagu Nyan]

Depends if town or scum role is a poisoner? But Joy should be poisoned by scum?

Poisoning usually sounds like a nasty scum ability.
If townie ability, then why poison confirmed Townies like JG anyways?

It's no doubt that it's a scum ability.

 

[Kagu Nyan]

Also is our healer claimed already?

And it's Pot Goblin out of all people?

 

[Lord Melkor]

He's just going to flip wolf this game. Fr fr

Yes, destroying x shots as claim is not NAI and Opera could he fake claim - mid character in terms of town relevance.

My immediate POE is Saka, Reloaded, Tpein and TAC if Saka flips town.

Also I am still leaning town on @Flower but she should explain why she let go Saka so easily.

 

[Lord Melkor]

I will say that Smoothie is a strong claim. But besides Big Mom herself, the three strongest town claims are out there now. So Pot gets the slightest points for that. Flavor checks out as well.

How did you read Pot before the claim?

Strongest claims I would say in order:

1. Big Mom
2. Katakuri
3. Cracker
4. Perospero
5. Brulee
6. Smoothie

I would expect Fuji to put some traps there though.

 

[Lord Melkor]

The simplest answer is that JG was bus driven and that's why she couldn't be healed as far the failure. But if she was bus driven into a kill, vig isn't speaking if they shot JG. Her death is weird

I do not think this is enough for the vig to claim.

 

[Lord Melkor]

If scum reloaded is brave enough to post this in his first scum game kudos lmao

I recall playing with Reloaded before, he never rolled scum?

 

[Lord Melkor]

Wano is a good arc. It might be the best one post skip. Luffy vs Katakuri is still the best fight for me, though.

My biggest problem there is that Kaidou's flashback was like 2 pages.

 

[Lord Melkor]

I'm only awake at this point because I set an alarm to watch a tennis match.

First things first, about an hour after I subbed in, it looks like I've poisoned.

In terms of reads, I have the following as town - I've read maybe 45% of the thread in total.

Mitch
Prof
Pot
Watson
Mono
Kagu
Conq
Pero
Muugen

I had slight town reads on Nat and Flower, but I'm in the process of re-evaluating those as the PoE is shrinking.

Reloaded
SakazOuki
Melkor
TAC
Destroya
Pein
Rej
Nat
CakeWalker
Flower

To shrink that PoE down, I'll remove some players I don't think are scum based on what I've skimmed. Leaving me with an immediate PoE of

SakazOuki
Melkor
TAC
Pein
Rej

I want to say there should be at least 2-3 scum in the above list of 5. I'd like @Natalija to go over her town read of TAC - pending his flip currently I could slot her in there. Melkor probably the least scummy out of that list. Pein is probably scum, Rej will be scum if he continues to coast as hard as he is, but otherwise not much to read him from. Obviously think Sakaz is caught scum through the counterclaim, I can see Flower being scum in some ways but I'm struggling to see the angle if she's scum with him - she basically forced him to claim target for minimal gain, gun to head I would have her as town.

I don't think my claim is needed at the moment, but if it is, let me know.

Hi Ratchet!

@Pot Goblin can maybe heal you?

I would be interested why you have Pot and Mono as town reads, is Pot solely based on his claim?

Also, I have been consistently scum reading Saka and Pein this game, do you think I would be bussing them if we are team together?

 

[Lord Melkor]

I don't know flavour very well so I don't know if it fits tracker. It does line up with what she said regarding being an investigative role, and she did play it correctly by asking him for targets.

I'm a bit surprised with the vanilla claim, I assumed everyone would have a role in this game. I would rather avoid heavy spec like whether Fuji would include one Vanilla, I guess on it's own merits its possible and tracks with what she has said in the thread previously, but obviously it's hard to confirm. She's a good target for Flower to track.

The only one I can see not being town from there is Conq - I have him as town on general play (I think as scum he would look to avoid doubling down on Prof yesterday and his being forthcoming with a jailer claim makes sense, with SakazOuki claiming roleblocked I don't think scum would have both of those roles which means they essentially put themselves into a counterclaim situation anyway). I'm reasonably confident in my town reads, the ones I listed, with the exception of Watson who as noted I feel I could be misclearing.

Fuji included single vanilla role in the Dressrosa game we played together in FV. That game also seems quite close to this one in terms of power level from what I have seen.

 

[Ratchet]

I would be interested why you have Pot and Mono as town reads, is Pot solely based on his claim?

No, had him as Town off of play too. I elaborate in a later post, which you'll see shortly.

Also, I have been consistently scum reading Saka and Pein this game, do you think I would be bussing them if we are team together?

No, but your expectation that I'll just know these associatives is similarly misplaced. You don't need to defend anything said there.

 

[Lord Melkor]

Well, if Saka is scum and used a negative action on TAC, TAC is fine.
If Saka is scum and used sth positive on TAC, they're team mates.
If Saka is Town TAC is scum anyway.

So unless the former is the case fucking off TAC already.

And now my shift has started. Will check the thread later.

Agreed. Saka's flip will be informative in this respect.