EkkoLoJinx

How far I'll go...
it gives town a free IC lol
mafia is already informed, it just makes town also informed for free

claiming poisoned or w.e is different as that can be faked, the whole purpose of the truth tell is its NOT to be faked, though if it got faked even once it'll kill it permanently lol
 
it also gives the doctor a "free town target"

it also narrows down the cop PoE
new players i doubt care, also forgot bus driver/ can screw this over/mafia results

just like the kills, plus framers etc


i've seen some other people say they are town all games/only for later to use the same tactic and ended up scum, which ruined lot trust. so it 100% not trust imo
 

EkkoLoJinx

How far I'll go...
that person was using similar trust me/truth tell that i see people on flower case because she does it

the point is even if someone has record, it can still be broken.
ive truth telled once before

i was scum

dont regret it kek

anyone trusting that shit is a fool lol

but this one is a different case lol. its been multiple games where the truth tell was truthful, so people take it for granted

flower just need to break it one game and it'll be voided for eternity
 
truth telling isn't really cheating (atleast not now) cuz the rules of the game doesn't say you can't do it, but it's really bad sportsmanship. if you can't defend yourself without it just take the lynch and reflect on what could be done next time to defend yourself better imo
Well, it is intentional Angleshooting/OGI... So saying "it's not cheating" or "it's not against forum rules" is... dubious at best. But reading into an out-of-game promise to not do something as mafia is also angleshooting. It's just usually primarily moderated on the single slot, especially when intentional, because that ends up less damaging to game sanctity. Angleshooting all too often spawns more angleshooting.

(Btw, putting other players on ignore is also OGI/angleshooting if you still participate in the same games as them. It's using the forum software in a way that damages the sanctity of the game.)

To take a more obvious example: If I agree in advance with, let's say, Fuji, Ratchet, Rej, and Michelle, that we will work towards being the final five living players irrespective of our alignments, then agree to tie the game once we have the ability to do so (or sub out if unable to tie), then my cabal is no longer playing mafia. Everyone else is playing mafia, while the five of us are destroying the sanctity of the game at the expense of others.

Another example: At the start of a game, I offer $100 USD to each player if they don't vote for me or kill me throughout the game.

Trust tells are not that obviously extreme, but they are in the same style of angleshooting/OGI behaviour. Someone is making an agreement outside of the game to use a certain behaviour or code to essentially quote/screenshot their role PM. Now, there are communities in which that's considered acceptable. In which "Oh, well, it could be fake" or "Oh, well, we don't believe in moderation outside of extreme cases" is used to justify a lot.

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Beyond that, someone regularly being put in a position where they aren't enjoying the game and lose emotional stability is another problem. And there's no practical solution to that problem that doesn't involve active change from multiple people.

While the general nastiness of most of the more memetic and/or aggressive players shouldn't be acceptable in games, there is a degree of freedom that needs to be allowed in terms of players letting off a bit of steam. The game is an escape for many and that should be reflected. But it should not come at a cost to the freedom and enjoyment of others.

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If the community wants either allowance — lax enforcement of anti-angleshooting/anti-OGI rules and/or aggressive behaviour at the cost of accessibility, then cool. You do you. I'm just an old-time player who hangs out on the fringe of this community, ever so often dipping my toes in. It's definitely not my personal preference, or that of the overwhelming majority of global mafia players. It doesn't look like most people here really want either of those situations either. But so it goes.

i propose making someone who is experienced, calm, collected, never rages, speaks very little, doesnt join much on the drama, and is very decisive as a mafia mod

i mean chadnight delight ofc
Most people who fit that description don't actually want to be a mod (usually "any more").
 
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Joygirl1

I never trust someone because of a truth tell but apparently most other players do and so Flower becomes magically unlynchable and townconfirmed for no good reason.
 
Wait, but if she's subbing in to die more than once in the same game... That seems really hard to implement as a host. ;)
well if people want to angle shoot sub in as scum. to kill again from people going after her again. or scum getting rid of her if she not there team.

There's nothing worse than hosts who allow dead players to sub back in. They have pre-knowledge and that's super unfair.
it not unfair if person died day 1, and came back to play again. there not allowed to talk about there role. that all
 
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