So why Jinbei doesn't have more than Queen if the WG has considered Jinbei's strenght plus his knowledge about Nika ?
Who's Who has that knowledge too and he only got a mere 542million bounty. You would think having that knowledge would get you a huge bounty but Who's Who bounty proved otherwise.
What I put in parentheses is from Oda's answer in the SBS volume 91. Oda never mentioned specifically Emperors. He told about captains and their crewmembers by giving the dressrosa incodent as example.
So Kid's bounty has definitively an effect on Killer's bounty.
Who's Who has that knowledge too and he only got a mere 542million bounty. You would think having that knowledge would get you a huge bounty but Who's Who bounty proved otherwise.
What I put in parentheses is from Oda's answer in the SBS volume 91. Oda never mentioned specifically Emperors. He told about captains and their crewmembers by giving the dressrosa incodent as example.
So Kid's bounty has definitively an effect on Killer's bounty.
Who’s who had that knowledge back before Nika was a threat so the WG thought it was outdated. Now Nika is very much alive and jinbe knows what he means. And because Queens power is more of a threat to the WG than Jinbes power + knowledge.
An effect doesn’t equate to an 800 million berry boost. It’d be a 300 million berry boost at most.
An effect doesn’t equate to an 800 million berry boost. It’d be a 300 million berry boost at most.
I don't understand how Queen's power is more a threat than having knowledge about Nika ???
You're making it like having that knowledge is such a big deal yet Queen has a higher bounty than Jinbei. That doesn't make sense.
There's nothing suggesting that. That's a "rule" you just made up. If Oda wants an effect equates to an 800million berry boost, he will do it.
You're making it like having that knowledge is such a big deal yet Queen has a higher bounty than Jinbei. That doesn't make sense.
There's nothing suggesting that. That's a "rule" you just made up. If Oda wants an effect equates to an 800million berry boost, he will do it.
Because Queens significantly stronger than Jinbe… it’s like how Robin can read the Poneglyphs but still has a bounty below jack.
And yes Killer gets an 800 million berry boost for no reason but being Kids subordinate, yet Yonko Commander Zoro didnt even get a 800 million berry boost despite beating King and being the commander of a bonafide emperor.
How does that make sense…
And yes Killer gets an 800 million berry boost for no reason but being Kids subordinate, yet Yonko Commander Zoro didnt even get a 800 million berry boost despite beating King and being the commander of a bonafide emperor.
How does that make sense…
And how the GM is suposed to know that Queen is stronger than Jinbei ?
The GM doesn't have Dragon Ball scooter to assess who is stronger than who.
And thank you for giving Robin's example. That just proves having some knowledge doesn't boost your bounty over other people.
Robin can read poneglyphs and have a bounty inferior to Jack.
Who's Who had knowledge about Nika and had less than Ace.
But yet, you are adamant about Jinbei got his bounty because of his strength and his knowledge about Nika, and still have less than Queen.
If anything, someone has his bounty because of his feats, his fame or his captain's feats in most cases.
Queen has more than Jinbei not because he's stronger but because he can create viruses which decimate populations and because of his captain who's a warmonger.
Because your reasoning is bad. You think about boost from the beginning when you have to think about the bounty itself.
I can give you some examples.
Law, Luffy and Kid got a 3 billion bounty for defeating Big Mom and Kaidou.
But Law and Kid got a bigger boost than Luffy when Luffy did most of the work.
Luffy and Law got a 500million bounty for defeating Doflamingo but Law got a mere 60million Berry boost when the WG attributes Doffy's defeat to Luffy and Law.
See, thinking about the boost is illogic. You have to think about the bounty itself.
So Killer being one of the 5 supernovae who fight 2 Yonkou and being a subordinate of someone's having a 3 billion berry bounty is enough to give him a bounty of 1 billion berry (more or less).
The GM doesn't have Dragon Ball scooter to assess who is stronger than who.
And thank you for giving Robin's example. That just proves having some knowledge doesn't boost your bounty over other people.
Robin can read poneglyphs and have a bounty inferior to Jack.
Who's Who had knowledge about Nika and had less than Ace.
But yet, you are adamant about Jinbei got his bounty because of his strength and his knowledge about Nika, and still have less than Queen.
If anything, someone has his bounty because of his feats, his fame or his captain's feats in most cases.
Queen has more than Jinbei not because he's stronger but because he can create viruses which decimate populations and because of his captain who's a warmonger.
Because your reasoning is bad. You think about boost from the beginning when you have to think about the bounty itself.
I can give you some examples.
Law, Luffy and Kid got a 3 billion bounty for defeating Big Mom and Kaidou.
But Law and Kid got a bigger boost than Luffy when Luffy did most of the work.
Luffy and Law got a 500million bounty for defeating Doflamingo but Law got a mere 60million Berry boost when the WG attributes Doffy's defeat to Luffy and Law.
See, thinking about the boost is illogic. You have to think about the bounty itself.
So Killer being one of the 5 supernovae who fight 2 Yonkou and being a subordinate of someone's having a 3 billion berry bounty is enough to give him a bounty of 1 billion berry (more or less).
For Queen and King in particular, you could very easily argue its not just their strength, or the strength of their captain that facilitated them having such high bounties.
In some ways, they are "special cases".
Queen before being a beast pirate, was well known as one of the most capable scientists in the entire world, in line to being considered second only to Vegapunk.
King may have attempted to hid his identity, but it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if the Navy at least had suspicions of King's Lunarian nature, Lunarians being an extinct race with immense value to the world government, and partially raced his bounty in response.
In some ways, they are "special cases".
Queen before being a beast pirate, was well known as one of the most capable scientists in the entire world, in line to being considered second only to Vegapunk.
King may have attempted to hid his identity, but it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if the Navy at least had suspicions of King's Lunarian nature, Lunarians being an extinct race with immense value to the world government, and partially raced his bounty in response.
But that doesn’t make sense to me. Every time the straw hats save an island they are the heroes.
Taking down the marines won’t do that. The straw hats have never been the villain in an island they saved, and the final war will be the same just on a global scale where the entire world will see the straw hats as heroes. Defeating marines ain’t going to do that
Taking down the marines won’t do that. The straw hats have never been the villain in an island they saved, and the final war will be the same just on a global scale where the entire world will see the straw hats as heroes. Defeating marines ain’t going to do that
The marines have to go down as they are the bad seeds would perish in the war leaving only the good hearted ones. Marines ain’t gonna sit idly while the SHs take down the WG. Leaving Akainu as the head of marines, GB who worship him, Kizaru who listen to WG orders and many marines who follow absolute justice would leave the world in the same state we in right now. Furthermore, it’s trash ending if the whole world thought the SHs as heroes cuz it could leave a bad taste since it’s a cringy ending.
Zoros bounty, as well as Luffys, are too low at the moment. So them beating/showing dominance against Kizaru and Lucci could give them 1.5 x their bounties.
3B x 1.5 = 4.5B (right between Big Mom and Kaido)
1.111 x 1.5 = 1.666B (666 is the symbol of the Devil, King of Hell)
Thus confirming Luffy as stronger than Big Mom but just below Kaido which is fair.
And Zoro pulling clear of Jinbei/Sanji + being confirmed as beyond first mates Marco and King, entering that "fifth yonko"/silver medalist (and presumably Vice Captain) territory of 1.5+ (Luffy 1.5, Hancock 1.6, Crocodile 1.9, BB 2.2, probably Beckmann, Oden, Rayleigh).
3B x 1.5 = 4.5B (right between Big Mom and Kaido)
1.111 x 1.5 = 1.666B (666 is the symbol of the Devil, King of Hell)
Thus confirming Luffy as stronger than Big Mom but just below Kaido which is fair.
And Zoro pulling clear of Jinbei/Sanji + being confirmed as beyond first mates Marco and King, entering that "fifth yonko"/silver medalist (and presumably Vice Captain) territory of 1.5+ (Luffy 1.5, Hancock 1.6, Crocodile 1.9, BB 2.2, probably Beckmann, Oden, Rayleigh).
The world government looks like it’s going to be defeated via the combined might of being at war with multiple opponents.
Cross Guild taking out marines constantly
Revolutionary army pouring Mariejoa under siege
Straw hats taking down Kizaru and possibly a gorosei
However, all of this is happening now. And by the time luffy gets to raftel I wouldn’t be shocked if Buggy and Cross Guild conquer Mariejoa. And cringe as it is, we all know luffys secret dream is going to be something cringe like seeing his pirate flag flying on every island in the world or something. It’s a manga for 12 year olds. Expect cringe.
Cross Guild taking out marines constantly
Revolutionary army pouring Mariejoa under siege
Straw hats taking down Kizaru and possibly a gorosei
However, all of this is happening now. And by the time luffy gets to raftel I wouldn’t be shocked if Buggy and Cross Guild conquer Mariejoa. And cringe as it is, we all know luffys secret dream is going to be something cringe like seeing his pirate flag flying on every island in the world or something. It’s a manga for 12 year olds. Expect cringe.