Controversial General Political Discussion

[Zenos7]

No, I argued that natural purpose of sex organs is reproduction.

Then, the instinctive desire to seek pleasure is also natural. But, that's where the problem is.

I think I am not being clear enough.

Lets say you have a knife. The manufacturer of that knife said it is meant to cut fruits only.
"Cutting fruits" becomes its intended and natural purpose.
But, you start cutting tree branches or other stuff with the knife. While you can argue that the use is still natural because it is a sharp object, but you need to understand what manufacturer said.

Yes, I am using religious element when I explain this. You can notice the influence. This is why it sounds absurd to you.

So you yourself admit the desire to seek pleasure is natural. And id rather say the main function of sex organs are excretion and reproduction. Wouldnt call it purpose or anything, refer to the posts of @Logiko on this.

It sounds absurd because it is. Because you are pushing your religious element on the basic definition of natural where it doesnt belong.

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Destruction?
I dont know where you are trying to get at with this.

There is no inherent purpose. Its humans slapping purpose everywhere because are desperate for meaning in the world

 

[notAfanboy]

So you yourself admit the desire to seek pleasure is natural. And id rather say the main function of sex organs are excretion and reproduction. Wouldnt call it purpose or anything, refer to logikos posts on this.

It sounds absurd because it is. Because you are pushing your religious element on the basic definition of natural where it doesnt belong.

No, I am pointing out how you are being selective about this.

What's the other purpose of eyes, ears, nose, heart, lungs?
We have only one organ which we can use freely, and we tend to do it in "not recommended" ways, if I say so from religious point of view.
Discuss and understand my point, dont jump to conclusions.

 

[AL sama]

Destruction?
I dont know where you are trying to get at with this.

you've been saying since yesterday that homosexuality can't be natural cause our sex organs' purpose is reproduction so I m showing you everything natural doesn't have a purpose

also why use religion to deny something where there's accurate scientific explanation against the denial

 

[notAfanboy]

you've been saying since yesterday that homosexuality can't be natural cause our sex organs' purpose is reproduction so I m showing you everything natural doesn't have a purpose

also why use religion to deny something where there's accurate scientific explanation against the denial

I am not talking about "everything", I am being specific. Clearly, sex organs have natural purpose, or you dont agree with this?

Sorry, I missed the accurate scientific explanation, can you please provide a link or share it here?

And natural disasters are irrelevant, we are talking about human body. What other purpose do eyes, ears, nose, lungs, heart, and other organs have?
We are focused on one organ which we can use freely.
So, the problem is our "free will"?

To make it clear, I am not denying the action. I am questioning why it happens and I have a clear stance that if humans control themselves it can be avoided.

Likewise, I argue that if seeking pleasure is the reason, then (God forbid), pedos may also have a reason.
I proved this by quoting California's law about having gay or oral se* with 14-17 year olds.

Now go on, and explain where you stand morally.
Again, my point is humans should not seek pleasure beyond their limitations.

And, I say this, because I am afraid the laws are being relaxed and if it continues to go on our moral values will also keep getting lower.

It is a genuine concern and you cant silence it by saying "science proved it". Science also produced nuclear bombs, but what dictates their use? Human intelligence and compassion. Otherwise, scientifically they are most effective weapons, similar to biological weapons.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Lets stop here. I have already said what I wanted to say.

stop deflecting, you can't hide your gay orgies from the authorities

 

[NikaInParis]

Just a quick reminder for everyone getting worked up in here:


You're all debating with nobodies!

Nobody here has any credentials for what they argue for (e.g. scholarly background, career in certain field, etc), unless they dox themselves and their name and surname.

Every argument and "argument" used here is just a google search away for anyone truly interested in a given topic.

It's a google scholar seach away for anyone looking for more credible sources.

The only reason you all come back here and "debate" (read: fight) is boredom.


If you sincerely were concerned about *insert topic* you would do your own resesrch instead of arguing with, for all you know, a bored teenager from across the world.


Bonus point:
In the 1000+ pages, not a single soul has had their mind changed by somebody here, fruther proving it's just cosplay intellectuals going at it

 

[Logiko]

So the homophobes are still going ? Damn.

 

[Tejas]

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Just a quick reminder for everyone getting worked up in here:


You're all debating with nobodies!

Nobody here has any credentials for what they argue for (e.g. scholarly background, career in certain field, etc), unless they dox themselves and their name and surname.

Every argument and "argument" used here is just a google search away for anyone truly interested in a given topic.

It's a google scholar seach away for anyone looking for more credible sources.

The only reason you all come back here and "debate" (read: fight) is boredom.


If you sincerely were concerned about *insert topic* you would do your own resesrch instead of arguing with, for all you know, a bored teenager from across the world.


Bonus point:
In the 1000+ pages, not a single soul has had their mind changed by somebody here, fruther proving it's just cosplay intellectuals going at it

I'm here for the trolling

 

[Adam 🍎]

Just a quick reminder for everyone getting worked up in here:


You're all debating with nobodies!

Nobody here has any credentials for what they argue for (e.g. scholarly background, career in certain field, etc), unless they dox themselves and their name and surname.

Every argument and "argument" used here is just a google search away for anyone truly interested in a given topic.

It's a google scholar seach away for anyone looking for more credible sources.

The only reason you all come back here and "debate" (read: fight) is boredom.


If you sincerely were concerned about *insert topic* you would do your own resesrch instead of arguing with, for all you know, a bored teenager from across the world.


Bonus point:
In the 1000+ pages, not a single soul has had their mind changed by somebody here, fruther proving it's just cosplay intellectuals going at it

 

[Zenos7]

No, I am pointing out how you are being selective about this.

What's the other purpose of eyes, ears, nose, heart, lungs?
We have only one organ which we can use freely, and we tend to do it in "not recommended" ways, if I say so from religious point of view.
Discuss and understand my point, dont jump to conclusions.

I understand your point, doesnt have anything to do with what im saying and there still isnt inherent "purpose".

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And natural disasters are irrelevant, we are talking about human body.

Im talking about what is natural, not primary or mist common function of body parts lmao.

 

[NAMELESS]

earthquake tornedo tsunami none of these happens often yet they are called natural disasters cause they are products oi nature

same thing applies to homosexuality

its quite simple to understand

so you are saying homo=disaster

Post automatically merged: Aug 25, 2023

Just a quick reminder for everyone getting worked up in here:


You're all debating with nobodies!

Nobody here has any credentials for what they argue for (e.g. scholarly background, career in certain field, etc), unless they dox themselves and their name and surname.

Every argument and "argument" used here is just a google search away for anyone truly interested in a given topic.

It's a google scholar seach away for anyone looking for more credible sources.

The only reason you all come back here and "debate" (read: fight) is boredom.


If you sincerely were concerned about *insert topic* you would do your own resesrch instead of arguing with, for all you know, a bored teenager from across the world.


Bonus point:
In the 1000+ pages, not a single soul has had their mind changed by somebody here, fruther proving it's just cosplay intellectuals going at it

this a shit post thread,mate.Most are here for shits and giggles.Some actually do believe they are super heroes fighting for justice with their shitty posts lol

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Live action next week

 

[NAMELESS]

what purpose do natural disasters have??

Volcanos fertilize the ground at least.As for the other(hurricane/tsunami/quake,etc),they are not really "disasters",they are just natural phenomena that are rather an inconvenience to humans.you get what i mean.

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Live action next week

i bet its going to suck

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Live action next week

 

[NAMELESS]

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https://www.humandignitytrust.org/lgbt-the-law/map-of-criminalisation/#maptab

I suspected this was a thing in the Muslim world.I dont agree with this.The state not should be this intrusive in people's personal lifes.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

https://www.humandignitytrust.org/lgbt-the-law/map-of-criminalisation/#maptab

66 jurisdictions criminalise private, consensual, same-sex sexual activity. The majority of these jurisdictions explicitly criminalise sex between men via ‘sodomy’, ‘buggery’ and ‘unnatural offences’ laws. Almost half of them are Commonwealth jurisdictions.

colonialism sucks

 

[Ha Yuri Zahard]

I am not talking about "everything", I am being specific. Clearly, sex organs have natural purpose, or you dont agree with this?

Sorry, I missed the accurate scientific explanation, can you please provide a link or share it here?

And natural disasters are irrelevant, we are talking about human body. What other purpose do eyes, ears, nose, lungs, heart, and other organs have?
We are focused on one organ which we can use freely.
So, the problem is our "free will"?

To make it clear, I am not denying the action. I am questioning why it happens and I have a clear stance that if humans control themselves it can be avoided.

Likewise, I argue that if seeking pleasure is the reason, then (God forbid), pedos may also have a reason.
I proved this by quoting California's law about having gay or oral se* with 14-17 year olds.

Now go on, and explain where you stand morally.
Again, my point is humans should not seek pleasure beyond their limitations.

And, I say this, because I am afraid the laws are being relaxed and if it continues to go on our moral values will also keep getting lower.

It is a genuine concern and you cant silence it by saying "science proved it". Science also produced nuclear bombs, but what dictates their use? Human intelligence and compassion. Otherwise, scientifically they are most effective weapons, similar to biological weapons.

When some people born without ability to distict some colors or even blind... is this "natural"?

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

When some people born without ability to distict some colors or even blind... is this "natural"?

BTW some people can see more colors than the average

 

[AL sama]

I am not talking about "everything", I am being specific. Clearly, sex organs have natural purpose, or you dont agree with this?

Sorry, I missed the accurate scientific explanation, can you please provide a link or share it here?

And natural disasters are irrelevant, we are talking about human body. What other purpose do eyes, ears, nose, lungs, heart, and other organs have?
We are focused on one organ which we can use freely.
So, the problem is our "free will"?

To make it clear, I am not denying the action. I am questioning why it happens and I have a clear stance that if humans control themselves it can be avoided.

Likewise, I argue that if seeking pleasure is the reason, then (God forbid), pedos may also have a reason.
I proved this by quoting California's law about having gay or oral se* with 14-17 year olds.

Now go on, and explain where you stand morally.
Again, my point is humans should not seek pleasure beyond their limitations.

And, I say this, because I am afraid the laws are being relaxed and if it continues to go on our moral values will also keep getting lower.

It is a genuine concern and you cant silence it by saying "science proved it". Science also produced nuclear bombs, but what dictates their use? Human intelligence and compassion. Otherwise, scientifically they are most effective weapons, similar to biological weapons.

in this post you're basically saying homosexuality is morally wrong so its not natural

like really do better

so you are saying homo=disaster

don't troll with me in a serious discussion

Volcanos fertilize the ground at least.As for the other(hurricane/tsunami/quake,etc),they are not really "disasters",they are just natural phenomena that are rather an inconvenience to humans.you get what i mean.

your post further proves my point