Jujutsu Kaisen, Chapter 234: Inhuman Makyou Shinjuku Showdown, Part 12

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呪のろいの王
#4
This is gonna go over a lot of people’s heads.

But the dialogue is implying that Sukuna doesn’t want to show all of his abilities to the students since has to fight them next.

Which I was trying to explain to these bozos in the spoiler thread but it was impossible without being called delusional.

Freaking morons.
goes over peoples heads.

tries to angleshoot fraudkuna is holding back only cause he doesn’t want to show the students lmfao
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That’s literally the dialogue bro 💀
no it’s your agenda shooting nonsense again.

really concerned you’re not all there in the head..
 
#5
goes over peoples heads.

tries to angleshoot fraudkuna is holding back only cause he doesn’t want to show the students lmfao
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no it’s your agenda shooting nonsense again.

really concerned you’re not all there in the head..
Muugen.

They’re literally talking about how Sukuna’s win con is different cuz he has to fight the students next.

So he has to win while showing as little as possible.

That’s the dialogue dude.
 
#9
This is gonna go over a lot of people’s heads.

But the dialogue is implying that Sukuna doesn’t want to show all of his abilities to the students since has to fight them next.

Which I was trying to explain to these bozos in the spoiler thread but it was impossible without being called delusional.

Freaking morons.
Yeah, I get it.

But the thing is, Sukuna would have lost without 10S.
Are we on the same page on this or not?

Take out Mahoraga in next chapter and tell Sukuna to use his TRUMP CARD, I will see how he manages to win.
 
#10
Yeah, I get it.

But the thing is, Sukuna would have lost without 10S.
Are we on the same page on this or not?

Take out Mahoraga in next chapter and tell Sukuna to use his TRUMP CARD, I will see how he manages to win.
No, the main cast knows about 10S and Mahoraga.

So by using it to front line against Gojo, Sukuna isn't revealing any of his abilities.
 
#11
Yeah, I get it.

But the thing is, Sukuna would have lost without 10S.
Are we on the same page on this or not?

Take out Mahoraga in next chapter and tell Sukuna to use his TRUMP CARD, I will see how he manages to win.

No, it's hard to say for sure if Sukuna wins or loses. This is because the events that occured in the fight don't flow that way if he doesn't have Megumi's body. He never takes excessive damage in the domain battles because he's not restricted from using Shrine, plus he doesn't worry about having to adapt. Thus he never has to heal, which led to him launching his domain slower than Gojo's. Which means he doesn't get hit with Unlimited Void.

What would happen instead is almost certainly a much more boring war of attrition of rinsing and repeating the destruction of Gojo's Domain and Gojo Healing. Which Gojo certainly could win but we don't know for sure.

Of course, it also never gets to the point in the fight we have seen if Gojo never had Prison Realm Experience, allowing him to combat against Sukuna's domain.

So in that way, you can say Gojo is just as "fraudulent" as Sukuna. (For the record I think the fraud discourse is stupid as hell for multiple reasons and takes away from how great this fight has been)


As of now I'd probably lean Gojo>Heian Era Sukuna, at least after he had the prison realm experience, but it's still impossible to say for sure
 

MUUGEN

呪のろいの王
#12
Muugen.

They’re literally talking about how Sukuna’s win con is different cuz he has to fight the students next.

So he has to win while showing as little as possible.

That’s the dialogue dude.

compliments of Gojokidd cause this will be my last interaction with you here.

We should get one thing cleared, yes sukuna is holding back but that's not the entire point, u can't just pick out one sentence and put it over 11 chapters like this one sentence is the only thing that matters

We have seen that:

Gojo is a better hand to hand fighter multiple times

Has better RCT,

His CT limitless is better thank sukuna's( don't come at me with "he's hiding his techniques , how the fuck will anything cross infinity and he can't use his innate CT while using amplification)

And sukuna has a stolen body , a stolen technique which is literally carrying him through the whole fight and a soul to use as a meat shield.

Now, I am not totally sleeping on sukuna , my man copied an impossible rct by seeing it once, made 10S his own in such a short while and has God level understanding of CE.

And yes he's a villan he will use any and all means necessary and I totally agree, but the whole point is

"Gojo will beat heian Era sukuna"

Nobody saying that gojo will win, because comon we know he's not the MC and this is a Shonen anime. Sukuna might win this battle and kill gojo, but he lost the respect as the strongest the moment he used 10S.

And one more thing, the peak of jujutsu, domain expansion.

Gojo beat sukuna. I don't know what argument will u guys come up with but it was a clear win.

It's funny how the whole narrative of Gojo clapping heian Era OG sukuna changed to 10S Sukuna saving energy for others

Let's look at it like this

Gojo = fighting at 100%
Sukuna = fighting at 80%

What about 10S ? And using megumi to use as a meat shield/extra life , and all others shikigami and their techniques?

Sukuna gained far more hacks to compensate for the energy he's saving
No I added the page to shut down your dumbass

Like bro, it’s not “my angle”, they literally say “Sukuna’s win con is different than Gojo’s since he’ll have to fight all of us after.”
so Sukuna and Uramue combined can't beat 3-4 SG plus a handful of G1 students = STUDENTS

yet Gojo could one shot 2 SG curses in a matter of seconds....

confirmed Gojo>Sukuna​
 
#13
This is gonna go over a lot of people’s heads.

But the dialogue is implying that Sukuna doesn’t want to show all of his abilities to the students since has to fight them next.

Which I was trying to explain to these bozos in the spoiler thread but it was impossible without being called delusional.

Freaking morons.
None of his abilities can casually bypass infinity so its useless what he has why did he wasta most of his stamina if he could easily bypass Infinity ?

Also Gojo is the stronger one o one fighter
 
#14

compliments of Gojokidd cause this will be my last interaction with you here.

We should get one thing cleared, yes sukuna is holding back but that's not the entire point, u can't just pick out one sentence and put it over 11 chapters like this one sentence is the only thing that matters

We have seen that:

Gojo is a better hand to hand fighter multiple times

Has better RCT,

His CT limitless is better thank sukuna's( don't come at me with "he's hiding his techniques , how the fuck will anything cross infinity and he can't use his innate CT while using amplification)

And sukuna has a stolen body , a stolen technique which is literally carrying him through the whole fight and a soul to use as a meat shield.

Now, I am not totally sleeping on sukuna , my man copied an impossible rct by seeing it once, made 10S his own in such a short while and has God level understanding of CE.

And yes he's a villan he will use any and all means necessary and I totally agree, but the whole point is

"Gojo will beat heian Era sukuna"

Nobody saying that gojo will win, because comon we know he's not the MC and this is a Shonen anime. Sukuna might win this battle and kill gojo, but he lost the respect as the strongest the moment he used 10S.

And one more thing, the peak of jujutsu, domain expansion.

Gojo beat sukuna. I don't know what argument will u guys come up with but it was a clear win.

It's funny how the whole narrative of Gojo clapping heian Era OG sukuna changed to 10S Sukuna saving energy for others

Let's look at it like this

Gojo = fighting at 100%
Sukuna = fighting at 80%

What about 10S ? And using megumi to use as a meat shield/extra life , and all others shikigami and their techniques?

Sukuna gained far more hacks to compensate for the energy he's saving

I agree that Sukuna is compensating for the energy he's saving using Megumi.

Don't get me wrong I think Gojo still probably wins against Heian Sukuna.

But I just wanted to point out that the dialogue at the beginning is literally telling us point blank unambiguously that Sukuna is holding back so that he can save energy and doesn't have to show his techniques to the students.
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None of his abilities
We don't know his abilities because he's literally hiding them from both us (the readers) and the cast as a tactical advantage over the students.
 
#15
No, the main cast knows about 10S and Mahoraga.

So by using it to front line against Gojo, Sukuna isn't revealing any of his abilities.
Different trump cards for different opponents. Right?

What possibly can work against students, may not work against Gojo.

Why? Infinity.

@Wuuuke
They are fighting as a team.
Mahoraga is protecting Sukuna in this chapter.
 
#16
Different trump cards for different opponents. Right?

What possibly can work against students, may not work against Gojo.

Why? Infinity.

@Wuuuke
They are fighting as a team.
Mahoraga is protecting Sukuna in this chapter.
Well I mean the thing is we still don't know Sukuna's CT which yes, despite the memes is important.

Like say hypothetically that Sukuna could gain abilities from eating people.

That would mean he has Angel's nullification techniques as well as Jacob's ladder.
 

MUUGEN

呪のろいの王
#17
Different trump cards for different opponents. Right?

What possibly can work against students, may not work against Gojo.

Why? Infinity.

@Wuuuke
They are fighting as a team.
Mahoraga is protecting Sukuna in this chapter.

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Gojo defeated Sukuna 4-5 chapters ago when he defeated his domain.

He's now fighting Fraudkuna, and Fraudkuna is stronger with daddy mahoraga and megumi and 10S.​
 
#18
No, it's hard to say for sure if Sukuna wins or loses. This is because the events that occured in the fight don't flow that way if he doesn't have Megumi's body. He never takes excessive damage in the domain battles because he's not restricted from using Shrine, plus he doesn't worry about having to adapt. Thus he never has to heal, which led to him launching his domain slower than Gojo's. Which means he doesn't get hit with Unlimited Void.

What would happen instead is almost certainly a much more boring war of attrition of rinsing and repeating the destruction of Gojo's Domain and Gojo Healing. Which Gojo certainly could win but we don't know for sure.

Of course, it also never gets to the point in the fight we have seen if Gojo never had Prison Realm Experience, allowing him to combat against Sukuna's domain.

So in that way, you can say Gojo is just as "fraudulent" as Sukuna. (For the record I think the fraud discourse is stupid as hell for multiple reasons and takes away from how great this fight has been)


As of now I'd probably lean Gojo>Heian Era Sukuna, at least after he had the prison realm experience, but it's still impossible to say for sure
Basically you are saying I am assuming a hypothetical scenario. But Sukuna bros are doing the same.

But I am more inclined to believe that Sukuna would have lost without 10S.

We have more reasons to believe that Sukuna had no counter against Gojo's infinity (he observed Gojo when he was in Yuji's body).
 
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