Jujutsu Kaisen, Chapter 234: Inhuman Makyou Shinjuku Showdown, Part 12
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Bro, students... STUDENTS, aka FODDDDERRRS.
Now, let me spell it for you.
Hakari says "Gojo said dont join the fight until I am weaker than you".
Put two and two together.
It implies that Sukuna is holding back and has a trump card for opponents "weaker than Gojo".
Owari da
Now, let me spell it for you.
Hakari says "Gojo said dont join the fight until I am weaker than you".
Put two and two together.
It implies that Sukuna is holding back and has a trump card for opponents "weaker than Gojo".
Owari da
Stop trying to twist the narrative to something it’s not
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Because he can just use Mahoraga instead of using that ability.
That’s what I’ve been saying this whole time. It’s not that Mahoraga is Sukuna’s only way around infinity. It’s just that for whatever reason Sukuna think it’s the best.
And now we know why lol
You can be inclined to believe he would've lost without 10S I have no issue with that at all, I acknowledge it's very plausible.
My issue is when people act like it's 100% confirmed he would've lost when that's just not true.
The counter would be (like I said in my original post) just essentially a war of attrition to drain Gojo of Cursed Energy until he ran out of enough to use Domain/Spam RCT
Which from what we've actually seen transpire seems pretty plausible, given that even while having to restrict himself, he forced Gojo to a point where he wasn't able to use domain, which required him to use a technique that could've killed him instantly if performed even slightly incorrect. Which is why I don't get the common notion that Gojo has been "dominating this fight"
Heck, if Sukuna hadn't been in Megumi's body, where he didn't have to focus on adapting and using weird workarounds to Gojo's domain (because he was restricting himself) which led to him getting significant damage, the fight might've ended when Gojo ran out of using his domain. Of course it also might not have.
Also curious on your perspective in regards to the Prison Realm stuff I brought up?
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Bro, students... STUDENTS, aka FODDDDERRRS.
Now, let me spell it for you.
Hakari says "Gojo said dont join the fight until I am weaker than you".
Put two and two together.
It implies that Sukuna is holding back and has a trump card for opponents "weaker than Gojo".
Owari da
Now, let me spell it for you.
Hakari says "Gojo said dont join the fight until I am weaker than you".
Put two and two together.
It implies that Sukuna is holding back and has a trump card for opponents "weaker than Gojo".
Owari da
Tbf that Trump card would come into play if the students came in WHILE gojo was still there
Hard to rule out anything for now
They don’t say “his trump card FOR US” they say “his trump card.”
Stop trying to twist the narrative to something it’s not
Stop trying to twist the narrative to something it’s not
Follow the conversation and understand the context.
They are particularly talking about joining the fight and how Sukuna may react to this.
Anyway, Gojo will deal with 10S and all of Sukuna's hard work will be wasted.
Gojo will be killed or saved by Utahime or Shoko.
And then others will fight Sukuna with his own CT, not 10S.
This is my headcanon.
I am not saying Gojo will win. It is just that you need broken powers (borrowed) to beat Gojo, who achieved this level of strength all by himself.
"If we go out he may just use it"
Follow the conversation and understand the context.
They are particularly talking about joining the fight and how Sukuna may react to this.
Anyway, Gojo will deal with 10S and all of Sukuna's hard work will be wasted.
Gojo will be killed or saved by Utahime or Shoko.
And then others will fight Sukuna with his own CT, not 10S.
This is my headcanon.
I am not saying Gojo will win. It is just that you need broken powers (borrowed) to beat Gojo, who achieved this level of strength all by himself.
Follow the conversation and understand the context.
They are particularly talking about joining the fight and how Sukuna may react to this.
Anyway, Gojo will deal with 10S and all of Sukuna's hard work will be wasted.
Gojo will be killed or saved by Utahime or Shoko.
And then others will fight Sukuna with his own CT, not 10S.
This is my headcanon.
I am not saying Gojo will win. It is just that you need broken powers (borrowed) to beat Gojo, who achieved this level of strength all by himself.
Plus he’s only able to use RCT thanks to Toji and make dense domains thanks to Kenjaku.
Bro would be like a semi grade 1 sorcerer without the six eyes.
Even if it helped him, it was through his own understanding and not a borrowed power up.
Gojo was still there... but if we go back and read they said "only join if you think I am weaker than you".
So, yeah, a trump that can only be used when Gojo is weaker than the students.
I am not denying the possibility of it being a strong attack/technique. My point is, it would have been ineffective against Gojo's infinity or when he was "stronger than students".
Yeah, he is built different.
Thanks to Toji... for almost killing him.
Or as the manga says, a jujutsu sorcerer's growth is not linear. They learn from experience, i.e., Gojo vs Toji and Gojo in prison realm.
But what is Sukuna using? A borrowed body, only CT that is known to counter Gojo's technique and still have Yorozu's gift for an asspull escape from death like Kenjaku's anti gravity
Gojo was still there... but if we go back and read they said "only join if you think I am weaker than you".
So, yeah, a trump that can only be used when Gojo is weaker than the students.
I am not denying the possibility of it being a strong attack/technique. My point is, it would have been ineffective against Gojo's infinity or when he was "stronger than students".
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Yeah, he is built different.
Thanks to Toji... for almost killing him.
Or as the manga says, a jujutsu sorcerer's growth is not linear. They learn from experience, i.e., Gojo vs Toji and Gojo in prison realm.
But what is Sukuna using? A borrowed body, only CT that is known to counter Gojo's technique and still have Yorozu's gift for an asspull escape from death like Kenjaku's anti gravity
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Even if it helped him, it was through his own understanding and not a borrowed power up.
Gojo was still there... but if we go back and read they said "only join if you think I am weaker than you".
So, yeah, a trump that can only be used when Gojo is weaker than the students.
I am not denying the possibility of it being a strong attack/technique. My point is, it would have been ineffective against Gojo's infinity or when he was "stronger than students".
Yeah, he is built different.
Thanks to Toji... for almost killing him.
Or as the manga says, a jujutsu sorcerer's growth is not linear. They learn from experience, i.e., Gojo vs Toji and Gojo in prison realm.
But what is Sukuna using? A borrowed body, only CT that is known to counter Gojo's technique and still have Yorozu's gift for an asspull escape from death like Kenjaku's anti gravity
Gojo was still there... but if we go back and read they said "only join if you think I am weaker than you".
So, yeah, a trump that can only be used when Gojo is weaker than the students.
I am not denying the possibility of it being a strong attack/technique. My point is, it would have been ineffective against Gojo's infinity or when he was "stronger than students".
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Yeah, he is built different.
Thanks to Toji... for almost killing him.
Or as the manga says, a jujutsu sorcerer's growth is not linear. They learn from experience, i.e., Gojo vs Toji and Gojo in prison realm.
But what is Sukuna using? A borrowed body, only CT that is known to counter Gojo's technique and still have Yorozu's gift for an asspull escape from death like Kenjaku's anti gravity
Gojo can’t even make a barrier less domain let alone make himself a cursed object. Sukuna is way beyond him in skill and talent
Yeah it was through his understanding and obviously that's a merit to Gojo, but I don't see how Sukuna taking control of megumis body and using the 10 shadows also isn't a merit to Sukuna's ability by the same extent?
Regardless, at the end of the day whether they got the power-ups intentionally or not it is a fact that they both benefitted from things they didn't have when they made those initial proclamations back in like chapter 2 that they would beat each other.
Also this is headcanon but I find it interesting to think about, Gege has made it clear that "the strongest" Gojo/Sukuna clearly operate and think on a different level and wavelength than everyone else, they're so incomparable to everyone else besides each other that it's impossible to apply the typical norms and conventions to them (which gege shoves down our throats lol)
Basically, what I'm getting at here, is if Gojo loses here, would he think it's because Sukuna is a fraud and needed to take advantage of Megumi to win? No, he wouldn't blame others, that's not what Gojo and Sukuna do. Gojo would probably say it was his fault he got sealed in the first place that gave Sukuna the opportunity to take Megumi's body. I think in a very meta sense, the way we the viewers interpret "the strongest" is not how Gojo and Sukuna do. Of course I could be way off mark here but fun to think about regardless.
And yeah as for the Trump card thing I see your point but at the same time it could be a move that has significant drawbacks after he uses it, which if so he wouldn't use it unless he was forced to, as if he used it prior and it wasn't fully successful it could permanently disadvnatage him.
Again you could totally be right here but I think it's a bit early to rule anything out based on what limited info we have
So we are back to "what Sukuna do is so magical and heavenly, and what Gojo do is genetics"?
Yes, a borrowed body and a skill not so special anymore because Yuji can do the same (probably a different application). But it is possible to switch bodies and take control of them.
Because Gojo did not take over prison realm's body and prison realm's technique.
It is simple bro, Sukuna getting full control of Megumi's body without a binding vow or any other drawback was just a dumb idea.
Again, Gojo's character is like that, he likes to take the blame on himself because he dont think he can rely on others.
Stop and think for a moment; 3 v 1 in a serious battle, is it fair? Especially when it was not your CT to begin with? If it was an ability like shadow clone, which we saw recently when Gojo was protecting Amanai/Star plasma vessel, it would have been fine.
Yeah, it can be lethal like Gojo's HP and I am sure Sukuna has more than one in his bag.
He wont go down easily.
But again, this 10S thing should have been taken care of in first 5 chapters and then we would have seen Sukuna's own CT and its different attacks.
Yes, a borrowed body and a skill not so special anymore because Yuji can do the same (probably a different application). But it is possible to switch bodies and take control of them.
Because Gojo did not take over prison realm's body and prison realm's technique.
It is simple bro, Sukuna getting full control of Megumi's body without a binding vow or any other drawback was just a dumb idea.
Again, Gojo's character is like that, he likes to take the blame on himself because he dont think he can rely on others.
Stop and think for a moment; 3 v 1 in a serious battle, is it fair? Especially when it was not your CT to begin with? If it was an ability like shadow clone, which we saw recently when Gojo was protecting Amanai/Star plasma vessel, it would have been fine.
Yeah, it can be lethal like Gojo's HP and I am sure Sukuna has more than one in his bag.
He wont go down easily.
But again, this 10S thing should have been taken care of in first 5 chapters and then we would have seen Sukuna's own CT and its different attacks.
Sukuna has basically been using 3 abilites mainly - Malevolent Shrine, Domain Amplification & Mahoraga.
What do they all have in common?
They all can bypass Infinity - MS with Sure Hit, DA for CQC & Mahoraga with it's Adaptation.
Sukuna cannot bypass Infinity with whatever he has in his arsenal or is saving up for later.
Those are effective on the Students because they cannot use Infinity.
And he cannot use Two CTs at the same time - he's basically using every card in his hand that is suited to fight Infinity, to beat Gojo & he himself prefers the Ten Shadows.
What do they all have in common?
They all can bypass Infinity - MS with Sure Hit, DA for CQC & Mahoraga with it's Adaptation.
Sukuna cannot bypass Infinity with whatever he has in his arsenal or is saving up for later.
Those are effective on the Students because they cannot use Infinity.
And he cannot use Two CTs at the same time - he's basically using every card in his hand that is suited to fight Infinity, to beat Gojo & he himself prefers the Ten Shadows.