Controversial Funniest part is...Zoro fans are largely correct in their narrative. They simply lack patience.

#42
no no no I think satim is stronger

however my point is luffy is yet to defeat an admiral one on one

so zoeo doing it before luffy isn't logical
I believe whether They get defeated or not is another debate
It's an Escape Arc, so i was talking about their Match-Ups while trying to Escape
Saturn showcases his True Power against Luffy, while Kizaru showcases his True Power against Zoro is a fair guess imo
They don't need to be Defeated

For example, Zoro clashed with Fujitora before Luffy did, and it was Sabo who fought him while Luffy was going for Doffy
But if you want to talk about All Out Fights to the Death, i don't even believe anyone should be Defeated except Lucci

And if you want to compare to Previous Arcs, this Arc doesn't have any Country or Nation in Danger, it's only Vegapunk needing help, so it mirrors Arcs like Whisky Peak, Little Garden, Jaya, Long Ring, Sabaody & Punk Hazard

In all these Arcs, Luffy's Victories were mostly about Surviving a very dangerous situation or angrily destroying an annoying foe.
So i really don't see why would Oda add News of Kizaru's or Saturn's Defeats, it serves nothing
But Lucci is Disposable & do deserve the Vergo Treatment
 

AL sama

Red Haired
#44
I believe whether They get defeated or not is another debate
It's an Escape Arc, so i was talking about their Match-Ups while trying to Escape
Saturn showcases his True Power against Luffy, while Kizaru showcases his True Power against Zoro is a fair guess imo
They don't need to be Defeated

For example, Zoro clashed with Fujitora before Luffy did, and it was Sabo who fought him while Luffy was going for Doffy
But if you want to talk about All Out Fights to the Death, i don't even believe anyone should be Defeated except Lucci

And if you want to compare to Previous Arcs, this Arc doesn't have any Country or Nation in Danger, it's only Vegapunk needing help, so it mirrors Arcs like Whisky Peak, Little Garden, Jaya, Long Ring, Sabaody & Punk Hazard

In all these Arcs, Luffy's Victories were mostly about Surviving a very dangerous situation or angrily destroying an annoying foe.
So i really don't see why would Oda add News of Kizaru's or Saturn's Defeats, it serves nothing
But Lucci is Disposable & do deserve the Vergo Treatment
first of all luffy will escape but he won't escape from kizaru

secondly kizaru has already shown some of his powers long ago and after years he met them again which means this time oda will make him him go all in

so zoro fighting him isn't a logical conclusion
 
#46
Zoro fans are the worst part about Zoro
zoro fans are no part about zoro
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the narrative goes something like this

current zoro is already stronger than luffy

EOS zoro will be the strongest in the verse

that's what make zoeo fans sound crazy cause they think zoro is the MC not luffy
i dont believe any of those things.

you have some crazies in every fandom
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Bro likes JoNdule posts , whatelse do you need for him in that regards.
:wellwell::wellwell:
big oof
 
#47
EoS Zoro will be stronger than most of Luffy's rivals.

Some people at the end of Wano, were pointing out Kid and Law were>Zoro. Largely because 3 billion bounty nonsense. It made 0 sense for Law and Kid to surpass Mihawk and Shanks by any large metric.

And now? The story fucked those 2 over. It's entirely reasonable to think Zoro far surpasses those 2(K/L). They aren't even Luffy's rivals anymore. They lost their ponegylphs.

And we know Zoro will end up rivaling the world's strongest. Shanks and Mihawk will be below him.

Realistically. Aside from Goofy, Dragon, Blackbeard and Imu? Who will rival or surpass Zoro?

Fucking nobody. That's who.

But then certain Zoro fans go crazy in their theories. Like he's killing Kaido! Or beating Kizaru lol.
Aside from who will be stronger than zoro(wich is the only part I don't agree)
I must admit you made a very good thread and I agree with the rest of the things you said the sad reality is that you can't bet on oda's love for his condom :( specially after the g5
 
#52
the narrative goes something like this

current zoro is already stronger than luffy

EOS zoro will be the strongest in the verse

that's what make zoeo fans sound crazy cause they think zoro is the MC not luffy
Why do you pretend to be this stupid? Or are you genuine?

Mihawk >= Shanks
Luffy will be > Shanks EoS
Zoro will be > Shanks/Mihawk EoS

Zoro and Luffy will either be equal or so close that it hardly matters.
This fact is what makes Zoro fans so "annoying".
 
#53
first of all luffy will escape but he won't escape from kizaru

secondly kizaru has already shown some of his powers long ago and after years he met them again which means this time oda will make him him go all in

so zoro fighting him isn't a logical conclusion
That "So" you added is based on an assumption that Kizaru is gonna be Defeated
Which as i said is also another Guess, so there is no reason to shit on anyone who suggested any Match-Up

And since We are throwing Theories here, i believe Luffy is gonna receive an Extremely Humiliating Defeat, but not at hands of Kizaru or Saturn
 
#54
Kizaru, lucci and 30k marines=strawhats stomps and crush their opponents , Saturn = Strawhats escape, loose seraphim, pacifista, york, punk record and power plant. Zoro protect a weakened luffy, save vegapunk froml saturn & co and stall so that the sh can escape then join them via clear lance/trowing or luffy toonforce bouncing to the ship.
 

AL sama

Red Haired
#55
Why do you pretend to be this stupid? Or are you genuine?

Mihawk >= Shanks
Luffy will be > Shanks EoS
Zoro will be > Shanks/Mihawk EoS

Zoro and Luffy will either be equal or so close that it hardly matters.
This fact is what makes Zoro fans so "annoying".
this is silly

imu gorosei BB all of them will be shown as stronger than shanks and mihawk
That "So" you added is based on an assumption that Kizaru is gonna be Defeated
Which as i said is also another Guess, so there is no reason to shit on anyone who suggested any Match-Up

And since We are throwing Theories here, i believe Luffy is gonna receive an Extremely Humiliating Defeat, but not at hands of Kizaru or Saturn
the "so" that I added is is a logical conclusion
 
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