Pay attention to the below posts taking the claims under consideration:
For those in the know. Its posts like this that make me highly suspect reloaded
I'm starting to think it's straight up unbalanced lmao
or our coats is hime's wincon
Except Polar who is town via mechs and Watson town read I have to think at everyone else. Hime's indy claim makes sense (emotion showed for SRs looked genuine)
I feel that VC12 of D1 who had Pero with a wagon of 5 votes iirc is a good start to analyze the living players in the old mafia way. Glad we have a scum flip there now.
Flavour solving is meh fmpov and gives scum the chance to escape
No hammer please, I want to play tomorrow, now is 11:30 pm and I have to sleep
Michelle's last statement implies she's encouraging solving and wants a chance to give input later.
Well then [Vote Lynch Reloaded]
RA's vote - I noticed this secondary wagon didn't gain traction, I need to ISO that separately.
Mono [4] - Orca, Pot Goblin, Reloaded, Indigo
Reloaded [1] - Random Asshole
7 Votes Hammer
Well, look what we have here
That's exactly what's got me concerned
And we have this
I see I am the wagon today
I am town. And all I can do is blame my exceptionally terrible game for this whole travesty.
Anyway, I could claim. But it will probably only make it more complicated.
If y'all want me to claim, say so.
Do not hammer early.
Parroting Michelle, seems town are more likely to want to not hammer early.
Role fishing
No.
I gotta say reloaded, if you rolled scum. Kudos.
Yoru on his ass
What do you mean by this?
You just keep looking more scummy with each post lmao
Rip Yoru
Then you're gonna really like my claim
Minor role fishing, I give it a pass because yet again Reloaded comes across as worse than what I think you might be doing and there's proof just from his posts and other's calling out a potential agenda
Holly White [Hero aligned]
I only have a passive.
The bomb - the person who hammers me will die from the bomb attached to my chest.
Anyway, make a consensus for the person who should hammer me and make them do it.
If I'm scum, my claim should be complete bogus as T pein already had a very similar ability.
So no risk in making the person who the thread feels is scum hammer me.
If I'm town, I'm just saying the truth.
I know that's wifom. But it's the truth.
It's up to y'all to decide.
I assure you that I'm town. So please think for like 5 minutes before a towny decides to hammer me. That's probably game over for town.
I have no desire to get out of my lynch atp. So don't jump into the first conclusion that comes into your mind and think "he wants to avoid his lynch so he's threatening us with a bomb".
Surely the host would have provided me with a better claim than a recycled role of Tpein? (Again wifom but
)
So, discuss and reach a consensus for the person who will get the honor of hammering me.
Yoru made a good point, I shat the bed on that one, sorry
Rej - Afk/low activity. Same as wci game where he was scum.
Orca - what have they done actually? Can't say anything stands out. Same as me tbh. Maybe I'm missing whatever they have done. But seems cwac.
RA - again super low activity. Has done nothing.
Indigo - I sussed conq at the start because of his reactions towards a joke I made about him being inactiscum. But then he subbed out. Indigo has been forthcoming so far. But there can't be that many vanilla roles as many of you have also noted.
Reloaded - maybe I was wrong about him. Mayhe he is the mastermind of the scum team. Maybe all his fluff and gifs until this game all lead to the reveal he was always a 4d chess level player. Pure paranoid read tbh.
My thoughts should be irrelevant actually. I haven't paid attention to the game at all evident by my LVP level play.
And if you think you're gonna get any hints/info regarding my scum mates from my scum read by analyzing who I distance and stuff like that
in the chance that I'm scum, you wouldn't. Cause I'm town.
Indeed
Majorly significant here
Do you sound like someone who hasn't read or paid attention lmao
Yeah i read the eod mostly?
I didn't read most of the rest of the thread and skimmed lol. You can check my level of activity and see for yourself.
Is this cause I have you as scum? Come on you guys are winning this. So no need to shade
Yoru perceiving Orca's comment as shame, dunno, don't disagree or agree
Or maybe make one of Reloaded or Indigo do it. Maybe town gets an ability for a vanilla role from that.
I'm actually glad in hindsight Indigo sacrificed himself in the end - it's ironically helped clear some things up
Top of the list would be
Rej
Reloaded
Polar's reads, think scum started shaking in their boots assuming his read was very close
Which reminds me - I also want to go and see what exactly happened with the hime lynch and everyone's exchanges, I'll do that in a few
Lore wise this sounds like a scum passive and something the people aligned with The Patriots did against Big Boss/Naked Snake and Miller + the Diamond Dogs.
Spec that needs to be taken under consideration now
Incorrect, it's the opposite. I'm having trouble with Reloaded's.
Do you need me to explain why I'm vouching for your towniness and why I think you're not pulling one over on us?
why the hell would a towny have an ability like that?
Incorrect assumption, because I suppose this would be explained by Your essentially being Pein's counterpart. An extra note: many of us thought Orwellian's ability was far too OP as scum and Town, but there were restrictions in place by making the wagon burn a 2x.
I don't have the patience nor the ability to convince townies that I am town. It's only over for town if a towny hammers me and town loses two players at once.
If town can manage to make a scum read hammer me, town is still in the game.
So you think scum had basically two roles that can take a towny with them when they get lynched?
I was being memey cause I was laughing at my own incompetence.
I was only delaying the claim cause I was contemplating whether to claim this at all or not.
If I didn't claim, there was a chance that scum would have hammered me. But there was a greater chance that town would do it. So, I decided to claim in the end.
Take this as omgus or whatever you will, but.
Your play this game reminded me of "the melkor" Play the vets here mention often.
Basically, opposing/questioning stuff that would get you a town lean.
Like,
Inviting attention towards the fact that one of the coats flipping shouldn't Confirm the rest of you
Or offering yourself up as a sacrifice
Etc...
Just a gut feeling but those seem like attempts at getting towny points by putting the sus or danger up on yourself. That seems like a classic scum tactic from what I understand.
You could be genuine with it too. But that's how I feel.
If you think my ability is real but I'm scum, I think the hammer should be either you or Rej atp.
More of Yoru's thoughts
Wifoming a bit here but I could see this as T-Pein's fake claim that was saves for later as if he had claimed it he would've been lynched even harder than if he simply claimed vig
Poranoia
Could you potentially do the noble thing for town and set yourself up to get incinerated by Mono's potential bomb?
If it comes to that, I will do what I must
Spoiler alert: he did not, he essentially allowed Pot to eat the bomb. Bad boy.
We should lynch regardless
Weird focus imo, whatever
Read my claim and tell us your thoughts on it.
Who do you think should hammer me?
Wondering if the cautious play should be Mono hammering himself
Good insight ngl, although there's some things that make Orca look less good - I wanna see if Pot is on the same wavelength here in regards to this first tho, then I can elaborate
Damn
i completely forgot that voting for yourself is a part of the game
and even detailed so in the game's opening post
absolute genius level insight
Etc
I'm taking notes for this type of statement - it's not enough to add to any argument against you because it's semantic cherrypicking at its finest, it's just food for thought. I'm only really side eyeing this because that's a strong emphasis that you went out of your way to to draw attention to.
"It's the least I can do" suggests genuine intention, whereas stating this along with your alignmet does not really seem to suggest noble intent at all.
I may be dead wrong, so this can't really be a point against you by itself. Thinking out loud and writing down a mental note if I am for future games.
Previous ping
Wasn't sure where we were at with the votes.
Incredibly interesting.
VC above was quoted. Still interesting.
Pein's vote on Orwellian doesn't look partner-y, I like Random's vote, the explanation is logical from a low poster.
Note that I also coloured Bear in green as mech cleared and Watson in blue as my own TR, also Hime in violet in the VC 12 (forgot about the indies in the last one )
Back to work, brb asap
Imo, good point with viewing it through the lens of someone that's low activity and struggles to keep up. Yoru struggled with this himself.
MonochromeYoru [5] - The Orca, Pot Goblin, Mr. Reloaded, Indigo, Orwellian
Mr. Reloaded [1] - Random Asshole
Back to Yoru's lynch here (out of order, sorry)
