Anime & Manga One Piece Spoilers - The Waiting Room
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Short summary thanks to @Pot Goblin from ConejoPark.
Chapter 1092: The dance of liberation
- Luffy vs Kizaru
- Kizaru uses his awakened logia powers
- Luffy tells him "you can awaken your fruit but Kaido told me it's haki that prevails"
- Luffy hits Kizaru in base with conqueror's coating and Kizaru bleeds
- Luffy then goes Gear 5 and the drums of liberation start playing (we see the Kanji)
- In an impressive double spread, Conejo Blanco appears in the dome of Egghead
- Conejo Blanco says that she heard the drums of liberation and now she wants to dance
- In an impressive triple spread, Conejo Blanco dances on the drums of liberation and destroys the whole marine fleet while dancing
- No break next week
@TheAncientCenturion open the spoilers thread immediately
Chapter 1092: The dance of liberation
- Luffy vs Kizaru
- Kizaru uses his awakened logia powers
- Luffy tells him "you can awaken your fruit but Kaido told me it's haki that prevails"
- Luffy hits Kizaru in base with conqueror's coating and Kizaru bleeds
- Luffy then goes Gear 5 and the drums of liberation start playing (we see the Kanji)
- In an impressive double spread, Conejo Blanco appears in the dome of Egghead
- Conejo Blanco says that she heard the drums of liberation and now she wants to dance
- In an impressive triple spread, Conejo Blanco dances on the drums of liberation and destroys the whole marine fleet while dancing
- No break next week
@TheAncientCenturion open the spoilers thread immediately
Short summary thanks to @Pot Goblin from ConejoPark.
Chapter 1092: The dance of liberation
- Luffy vs Kizaru
- Kizaru uses his awakened logia powers
- Luffy tells him "you can awaken your fruit but Kaido told me it's haki that prevails"
- Luffy hits Kizaru in base with conqueror's coating and Kizaru bleeds
- Luffy then goes Gear 5 and the drums of liberation start playing (we see the Kanji)
- In an impressive double spread, Conejo Blanco appears in the dome of Egghead
- Conejo Blanco says that she heard the drums of liberation and now she wants to dance
- In an impressive triple spread, Conejo Blanco dances on the drums of liberation and destroys the whole marine fleet while dancing
- No break next week
@TheAncientCenturion open the spoilers thread immediately
Chapter 1092: The dance of liberation
- Luffy vs Kizaru
- Kizaru uses his awakened logia powers
- Luffy tells him "you can awaken your fruit but Kaido told me it's haki that prevails"
- Luffy hits Kizaru in base with conqueror's coating and Kizaru bleeds
- Luffy then goes Gear 5 and the drums of liberation start playing (we see the Kanji)
- In an impressive double spread, Conejo Blanco appears in the dome of Egghead
- Conejo Blanco says that she heard the drums of liberation and now she wants to dance
- In an impressive triple spread, Conejo Blanco dances on the drums of liberation and destroys the whole marine fleet while dancing
- No break next week
@TheAncientCenturion open the spoilers thread immediately
Then there is no need to speculate about Juubi's AP.
He could nuke a continent with a single Bijuu Dama, multiple continents, maybe he could nuke the moon, maybe even more? Or the best he could nuke at one hit would be a country?
That's the reason why I only compare on screen feats. What ifs won't be helpful.
Besides, the Juubi went on a rampage and had no control over its power. It pulled destructive techniques like Tenpenchii and V3 Juubi even fired a huge Bijuu Dama which dwarfed all the smaller ones.
It was pretty clear that this Juubi was already at the peak of its power prior to the Shinjuu tree.
I agree.
They only fought the Juubi with combined forces. So even V1 Juubi was far stronger than Kurama and Gyuki combined. But that's it honestly. Yes, it is that strong but how does it change the fact that Juubi's best feats are still weaker than Bajrang Gun and Puncture Wille?
We've seen its power input when Obito was the Jinchuriki.
Yet Juubito's feats weren't surpassing Juubi's when it came to destructive capacity. Obito had stronger focused attacks and was able to destroy the barrier of the hokages what V3 Juubi couldn't do before.
Jinchuriki using their Bijuu's power are always stronger than the Bijuu itself. That's been clear since Naruto got his KCM2.
It also depends on the Jinchuriki as well. I mean, there are levels between Juubito and Juudara. Even Rinnegan Alive Madara was comparable to Juubito, he owned all Bijuus at once and obliterated the alliance all on his own.
Juubi has the energy but it can never fully use its energy either way.
Was this incomplete version not about V1 Juubi? Iirc V3 Juubi was the same like the one in that flashback.
But sure, there's a good chance the ancient one is stronger but that's because Juubi was also Kaguya.
I'm merely talking about the War arc Juubi and its best feats are simply not on Bajrang Gun level. It is different with Juudara, Hagoromo, Hamura and especially Kaguya. Don't get me wrong about this.
Ah, so it was Kurama - my bad.
Anyway, that feat you mention about this panel is basically the Bijuu Damas of V2 or V3 Juubi (iirc it was V3 Juubi in a flashback when Hagoromo and Hamura fought it):
That's how it most likely caused destruction among the world.
Again, the timeframe is important. Even a day is highly relevant if Juubi keeps spamming Bijuu Damas.
How would the planet look like if someone keeps hitting countries with island sized - and I actually mean Onigashima sized ones - punches?
Additionally, a lot of this are hyperboles. Juubi never drank the ocean, he never split the earth and Juubi canonically didn't create the planet either. It's the contrast. The Juubi/Kaguya was a parasite to the world, sucking up its energy. The Otsutsuki planted the Shinjuu Tree on Earth and Kaguya simply ate the chakra fruit and thus she became drastically stronger, fused with the Shinjuu Tree and became Juubi.
But at the end Hagoromo wielded this sword who isn't only much stronger than Juubito and Juubi since he's an Otsutsuki but he was also its Jinchuriki at the end.
At his deathbed, he created the moon to seal the lifeless body of Juubi away. Nothing of Juubi's showings come close to that. Juubi is merely a ridiculously large amount of energy fuel.
The issue is that this is only a statement and there is no feat to that. I'm giving Hagoromo the benefit of the doubt since he created the moon in the end of his life. But again, Hagoromo >>> War arc Juubi.
Again, a day has 24h, 1440 minutes and 86,400 secs.
There's plenty of time to waste the planet's surface with destructive Bijuu Damas like that.
Toneri basically had Hamura's power though and he was also an Otsutsuki.
If Toneri meant Kaguya as the Juubi, then I understand the message.
But as for War arc Juubi? Nope. It was nowhere comparable to Toneri.
I mean, at the end the Juubi is basically an alien parasite whose only purpose it is to suck up the planets energy.
We've seen another Juubi in Boruto as well, Jigen's/Isshiki's.
But I still need more context. In what way was the Juubi stated to be more powerful than all powers combined? Which powers? The power of the Bijuus? Because Isshiki was on a completely different level than all other Otsutsukis.
He could nuke a continent with a single Bijuu Dama, multiple continents, maybe he could nuke the moon, maybe even more? Or the best he could nuke at one hit would be a country?
That's the reason why I only compare on screen feats. What ifs won't be helpful.
Besides, the Juubi went on a rampage and had no control over its power. It pulled destructive techniques like Tenpenchii and V3 Juubi even fired a huge Bijuu Dama which dwarfed all the smaller ones.
It was pretty clear that this Juubi was already at the peak of its power prior to the Shinjuu tree.
I agree.
They only fought the Juubi with combined forces. So even V1 Juubi was far stronger than Kurama and Gyuki combined. But that's it honestly. Yes, it is that strong but how does it change the fact that Juubi's best feats are still weaker than Bajrang Gun and Puncture Wille?
We've seen its power input when Obito was the Jinchuriki.
Yet Juubito's feats weren't surpassing Juubi's when it came to destructive capacity. Obito had stronger focused attacks and was able to destroy the barrier of the hokages what V3 Juubi couldn't do before.
Jinchuriki using their Bijuu's power are always stronger than the Bijuu itself. That's been clear since Naruto got his KCM2.
It also depends on the Jinchuriki as well. I mean, there are levels between Juubito and Juudara. Even Rinnegan Alive Madara was comparable to Juubito, he owned all Bijuus at once and obliterated the alliance all on his own.
Juubi has the energy but it can never fully use its energy either way.
Was this incomplete version not about V1 Juubi? Iirc V3 Juubi was the same like the one in that flashback.
But sure, there's a good chance the ancient one is stronger but that's because Juubi was also Kaguya.
I'm merely talking about the War arc Juubi and its best feats are simply not on Bajrang Gun level. It is different with Juudara, Hagoromo, Hamura and especially Kaguya. Don't get me wrong about this.
Ah, so it was Kurama - my bad.
Anyway, that feat you mention about this panel is basically the Bijuu Damas of V2 or V3 Juubi (iirc it was V3 Juubi in a flashback when Hagoromo and Hamura fought it):
That's how it most likely caused destruction among the world.
Again, the timeframe is important. Even a day is highly relevant if Juubi keeps spamming Bijuu Damas.
How would the planet look like if someone keeps hitting countries with island sized - and I actually mean Onigashima sized ones - punches?
Additionally, a lot of this are hyperboles. Juubi never drank the ocean, he never split the earth and Juubi canonically didn't create the planet either. It's the contrast. The Juubi/Kaguya was a parasite to the world, sucking up its energy. The Otsutsuki planted the Shinjuu Tree on Earth and Kaguya simply ate the chakra fruit and thus she became drastically stronger, fused with the Shinjuu Tree and became Juubi.
But at the end Hagoromo wielded this sword who isn't only much stronger than Juubito and Juubi since he's an Otsutsuki but he was also its Jinchuriki at the end.
At his deathbed, he created the moon to seal the lifeless body of Juubi away. Nothing of Juubi's showings come close to that. Juubi is merely a ridiculously large amount of energy fuel.
The issue is that this is only a statement and there is no feat to that. I'm giving Hagoromo the benefit of the doubt since he created the moon in the end of his life. But again, Hagoromo >>> War arc Juubi.
Again, a day has 24h, 1440 minutes and 86,400 secs.
There's plenty of time to waste the planet's surface with destructive Bijuu Damas like that.
Toneri basically had Hamura's power though and he was also an Otsutsuki.
If Toneri meant Kaguya as the Juubi, then I understand the message.
But as for War arc Juubi? Nope. It was nowhere comparable to Toneri.
I mean, at the end the Juubi is basically an alien parasite whose only purpose it is to suck up the planets energy.
We've seen another Juubi in Boruto as well, Jigen's/Isshiki's.
But I still need more context. In what way was the Juubi stated to be more powerful than all powers combined? Which powers? The power of the Bijuus? Because Isshiki was on a completely different level than all other Otsutsukis.
