it doesnt change mf feats
you cant keep scaling solely off mf feats lmao


kuzan looks different
kizaru looks different
GB came in and mocked yonko commanders.
YC were never equal to Admirals
We're talking about WB vs Admirals not YC vs Admirals here

Oda had to nerf WB to give akainu chances and even then he's the one who won the last round as Akainu was out of the picture while wb went on fighting Teach and died there.
 

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The difference is Yamato never looked better than Kaido. Garp looked better than Kuzan with every on panel exchange while being significantly weaker than his prime self. Again, Oda went out of his way to personally tell the readers that this isn’t prime Garp here, that guy’s a different beast. He couldn’t have worded it even clearer than that. Garp said he was also at half strength at one point in the preskip, an exaggeration most likely but it goes to show that their prime selves are significantly more powerful, bare minimum. He treats the old legends on a higher pedestal, he might as well draw them standing on a stool every time they make an appearance.
Yea you have to understand that if Garp didn't even do that much, we would be looking at him like a high tier rn. Oda had the end result in hand, he knew Garp gets packed up in no time, so he has to give him some flowers before the most swift top tier defeat maybe ever.

That doesn't automatically mean Garp goes from pushing a wavering Kuzan holding his fruit back and some fodders to midish difficulty to suddenly being guaranteed a level above an all out Kuzan.
 
how are people underestimating Kuzan when he was literally shown to be almost a prime Garp level fighter even without his op DF! like wtf, thats easily Top 3 in the verse.

just cause he didnt went berserk mode serious against his old mentor? he so clearly held back all the time... his portrayal was insane tho.
 
Garp and Sengoku are literally Roger and Wb of Marines
You guys think midgen Admirals surpassed them
It's like thinking midgen pirates surpassed Roger and WB...even Kaido is at best equal to them or slightly below.
Akainu is at best =< Garp/Sengoku

Only Coby is surpassing them, same way Luffy is surpassing Roger and WB
BB dragon and maybe shanks surpass Roger.

only Luffy will surpass former Joy boy and Imu
 
YC were never equal to Admirals
We're talking about WB vs Admirals not YC vs Admirals here

Oda had to nerf WB to give akainu chances and even then he's the one who won the last round as Akainu was out of the picture while wb went on fighting Teach and died there.
didnt win any round
half his head was missing
akainu was relatively intact .
 
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