One Piece Chapter 1093: Luffy Vs Kizaru

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Zoro fans are some of the strongest denialists you will ever encounter. In what world is Zoro with 3 swords drawn while exerting all his Haki in KoH mode considered “base”?

Then some clown stated that whether his bandana is on or off is indication of base/full power lmao. Huff huff I am starting huff to see w-huff why weeZ
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In the same world where a certain fan base will ignoring scenes that shows hakiless and flameless Zoro fighting an awakening DF. Then look at Zoro's final scene in a chapter that only shows blackened CoA haki and flames and claim he's was using that power the entire time.

You may not like what a fan stated about huff but he did us the original Japanese language to prove his point. The Japanese version shows there's a difference between Zoro's huff and awakening Lucci's huff. Lucci is breathing much harder.

Anybody that's been a One Piece fan for a while knows sometimes Viz doesn't do the best job when it comes to properly translating the meaning of a scene.
 
In the same world where a certain fan base will ignoring scenes that shows hakiless and flameless Zoro fighting an awakening DF. Then look at Zoro's final scene in a chapter that only shows blackened CoA haki and flames and claim he's was using that power the entire time.

You may not like what a fan stated about huff but he did us the original Japanese language to prove his point. The Japanese version shows there's a difference between Zoro's huff and awakening Lucci's huff. Lucci is breathing much harder.

Anybody that's been a One Piece fan for a while knows sometimes Viz doesn't do the best job when it comes to properly translating the meaning of a scene.
so we have come down to breath scaling now...this forum...
 
Egghead lacks as of now a very important detail:

What I noticed is that Luffy is actually only trying to hold off Kizaru, nothing more. He made sure that the admiral was occupied, while his crew and Vegapunk did their thing (preparing to leave). He is not actively attacking Kizaru, because: He has no reason, yet.

And Luffy will not attack him as long as he sees no reason to do so. He will only make sure that Kizaru stays off of Vegapunk and his crew, nothing more.

For Luffy to go actively against the admiral, with the intention to actually hurt and defeat him, he needs a reason.

In previous arcs there was always a reason for Luffy to fight his main antagonist:

  • Kaido: Luffy wanted for everyone in Wano to eat as much as they wanted
  • Katakuri: He was about to anhiliate his crew, if not stopped
  • Doflamingo: He beat Bellamy and this was the last straw for Luffy
With every fight, Luffy had something he wanted to archive with beating his opponent. And he realized just how important this something was often times just before he started fighing or within their fight. Because it was then, when something major happened, which made him angry and realise he had to seriously fight now.

On Egghead however, we see a Luffy, who still has not come across this small detail/something, that makes his blood boil.



So, what we can assume is: Something major is going to happen in the next few chapters, which will make Luffy realise that he has to take his fight with Kizaru serious, else something bad will happen to the people around him.



The next little detail, that did not go unnoticed was that although the Vegaforce was destroyed, the SHP and Vegapunk are continuing their plan to flee as if nothing happened. Here we see Jinbe and Sanji bringing cargo to the place where they wanted to meet. Strange is: No one seems to make a change in their plan altought they do not have the Vegaforce anymore to carry them away from Egghead. This means that they have probably either another plan, they are following and do not need the Vegaforce, or they have an alternative to the Vegaforce.

Also, the behaviour of the SHP is getting more and more strange, since their communication amongst them has very much improved throughout the arc. They are all using a Den Den Mushi and everyone gets to know when something happens. This is a stark contrast to their approach in previous arcs. Someone/something must have happened during that time skip for them to change their general communicational approach that much.

Also, I begin to think that Bonney is not really her age Oda draws her in. The way Vegapunk talks about her, lets room for the possibility of her actually being in her teens or even younger. Interesting to note is that Saturn and Lucci also talked about her as if she was still a child.

Also, the Stellar’s main reason to come down to the Fabrio-Phase was to safe Bonney, not to change the command, the Pacifistas are currently following. He will at least try to do that in the next few panels, if he is able to.
 
Guys i just noticed one very important thing.
Kizaru hasn't used any king's haki, if he continues like this, i am pretty sure that kizaru is meant to be defeated form another character.
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I’m pretty sure there are only two delusional individuals who think Sanji > Zoro. But there are a lot more who think Zoro > Luffy or Luffy = Zoro.

Everyone knows Luffy > Zoro > Sanji.
Yes but there are also many fans who thinks that Zoro's and sanji's deference is insignificant.
I do agree with the last part of your post though.
 
Egghead lacks as of now a very important detail:

What I noticed is that Luffy is actually only trying to hold off Kizaru, nothing more. He made sure that the admiral was occupied, while his crew and Vegapunk did their thing (preparing to leave). He is not actively attacking Kizaru, because: He has no reason, yet.

And Luffy will not attack him as long as he sees no reason to do so. He will only make sure that Kizaru stays off of Vegapunk and his crew, nothing more.

For Luffy to go actively against the admiral, with the intention to actually hurt and defeat him, he needs a reason.

In previous arcs there was always a reason for Luffy to fight his main antagonist:

  • Kaido: Luffy wanted for everyone in Wano to eat as much as they wanted
  • Katakuri: He was about to anhiliate his crew, if not stopped
  • Doflamingo: He beat Bellamy and this was the last straw for Luffy
With every fight, Luffy had something he wanted to archive with beating his opponent. And he realized just how important this something was often times just before he started fighing or within their fight. Because it was then, when something major happened, which made him angry and realise he had to seriously fight now.

On Egghead however, we see a Luffy, who still has not come across this small detail/something, that makes his blood boil.



So, what we can assume is: Something major is going to happen in the next few chapters, which will make Luffy realise that he has to take his fight with Kizaru serious, else something bad will happen to the people around him.



The next little detail, that did not go unnoticed was that although the Vegaforce was destroyed, the SHP and Vegapunk are continuing their plan to flee as if nothing happened. Here we see Jinbe and Sanji bringing cargo to the place where they wanted to meet. Strange is: No one seems to make a change in their plan altought they do not have the Vegaforce anymore to carry them away from Egghead. This means that they have probably either another plan, they are following and do not need the Vegaforce, or they have an alternative to the Vegaforce.

Also, the behaviour of the SHP is getting more and more strange, since their communication amongst them has very much improved throughout the arc. They are all using a Den Den Mushi and everyone gets to know when something happens. This is a stark contrast to their approach in previous arcs. Someone/something must have happened during that time skip for them to change their general communicational approach that much.

Also, I begin to think that Bonney is not really her age Oda draws her in. The way Vegapunk talks about her, lets room for the possibility of her actually being in her teens or even younger. Interesting to note is that Saturn and Lucci also talked about her as if she was still a child.

Also, the Stellar’s main reason to come down to the Fabrio-Phase was to safe Bonney, not to change the command, the Pacifistas are currently following. He will at least try to do that in the next few panels, if he is able to.
I think Luffy might get angry that Kizaru doesn't have a deeper motivation to kill Vegapunk outside of taking orders. He might even shake Kizaru awake enough into making him take a dive Garp style.

I chalk the better communication to their logistical planning in Wano, and extra Stella/Satellite babysitters.
 
Kizaru hasn't even used CoA till now, if we go by the drawings that here some like so much when talking about fights.
I don't care about drawings at all and for me everyone uses coa and coo in a fight no matter if oda draw it or not.
There is no actual reason for characters to take a beating and not use their haki to protect themselves. It's just oda drawing the highlights lol.
If kizaru had king's haki i believe we should know it by now and him not having it makes me wonder if he is meant for someone else in the future.
 
I don't care about drawings at all and for me everyone uses coa and coo in a fight no matter if oda draw it or not.
There is no actual reason for characters to take a beating and not use their haki to protect themselves. It's just oda drawing the highlights lol.
If kizaru had king's haki i believe we should know it by now and him not having it makes me wonder if he is meant for someone else in the future.
For my part, I agree, but some here, when agenda demands, like more to think that characters as totally dumb than admit that Oda is simply inconsistent with the drawings lol.

Tbh, we'll see if Kizaru has it as we'll see if he has awakening. Especially when the fight will become serious.

Even though, the fact that the last 3 antagonists had CoC is just that, for me: a streak, a statistic. It does not mean Luffy cannot fight a non-Coc user for whatever reason.
 
Ok. My personal point of view about the chapter:

>The start with Bonnie and the VAs was a waste of panels. Although her new power is interesting, it was made just to fill pages.

>Kizaru and Luffy seem to have been fighting for a while. Kizaru was able to confirm that Luffy was running out of G5 (maybe using CoO) and was not prepared for the attack. It was a blunder by him but it does not seem to have done much. It was similar to Marco in Marineford.

>The end of the chapter was actually the best part. While I don't like zoans and animal people, the lore seems to be nice. Kuma should have a great secret to make them unable to let him keep his sense of self.

So, looking at the plot, Kizaru will probably be out of picture most/if not all of the next chapter alongside Luffy. Zoro is also unable to win against Lucci. Saturn will probably try to kill bonnie next chapter and be saved by Sanji. The focus will be on Sanji group it seems (unless Saturn does something that makes Kizaru actually start trying).

Kuma is coming to the island and the ancient Robot is free for a while and will probably protect Luffy if he is totally out of gas (really, why did they make his fruit a zoan..it sucks at things that zoans are know for). BB pirates are also still on the lose.

Great chapter. Shame that agenda will be the focus this week.
 

Blud don't belive what he have seen :milaugh:

Lizaru is over.
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Why Spoiler discussion is still closed, we need the spoiler already, we need to talk about it, open it mf.
 
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