Based on what?
He used Gear 5, did he use everything he can in Gear 5?
He just used CoC for the first time in this fight but he obviously has used every Gear 5 move he can ever use because Oda offpaneled it.
While Kizaru didnt even use 0.5% of his abilities. 10/10 wanker Logic.
I'm not the one making things up, you are.
If you want me to believe that Luffy used his G5 finishers on Kizaru & failed because Oda offpaneled the fight a bit... then you better prove it.
what do you think Saka ,will Kizaru vs Luffy now be pushed a bit to the background for Saturn to do stuff, or will Luffy be fighting now Kizaru and Saturn?
Damn can’t believe people still think oda isn’t going to make OP tech powers even after seeing Dragonball Z and Odas favorite Mangaka wank science power to high heaven.
what do you think Saka ,will Kizaru vs Luffy now be pushed a bit to the background for Saturn to do stuff, or will Luffy be fighting now Kizaru and Saturn?
Either that or Hattori betrays Lucci and joins Sanji lmao. Or Lafitte is a Bird Zoan and joins Sanji for some reason. @Mr. Reloaded use your powers of disloyalty to make Hattori betray Lucci so he joins Sanji!
I mean who is supposed to defeat the Gorosei if it's even arguable if the people you listed can defeat them. Sanji won't be Yonko level but he will certainly defeat one of them.
This is why I'm wary on the Gorosei overwank.
Always believed they would be fighters and would have some pretty hax abilities but if they're going to be defeated by Luffy friends they won't magnitude above etablished top tiers. We're already in the final saga, do people genuinely believe Oda will have Zoro/Sanji/Sabo/Law/Kid/Yamato/(add whatever powerful allies..) be able to mid diff a Kaido by the war?
It makes more sense for their ceiling to be at old legends like Rayleigh, which is already very high honestly.
Based on what?
He used Gear 5, did he use everything he can in Gear 5?
He just used CoC for the first time in this fight but he obviously has used every Gear 5 move he can ever use because Oda offpaneled it.
While Kizaru didnt even use 0.5% of his abilities. 10/10 wanker Logic.
I'm not the one making things up, you are.
If you want me to believe that Luffy used his G5 finishers on Kizaru & failed because Oda offpaneled the fight a bit... then you better prove it.
The powers of the Gorosei don't seem to be a secret at all if random Marines give such an announcement like people not looking at Saturn. So they are essentially part of the scaling when talking about Yonko and admirals as the WG's highest military force. Especially since they are named warriors and are willing to step into battle.
:cheers:That's why Kaido is top 1 indeed
Only Imu is above him because nobody knows about Imu powers or face even
People been doubting if the strongest pirates were really strongest people...
Oda made it clear, Gorosei powers is known to marines and yet Gorosei & Navy themselves hype Yonko superior or at least kaido, WB and Roger as peak
Jesus Christ bro, we can play semantics as much as you want, doesn't stop the fact gear 5 has a time limit that forces breaks in fights.
I'm not really against zoro here? I'm defending him... I'm open to the thought of zoro struggling more than Luffy, I won't stand for people saying he is trying hard against lucci.
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