Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1094 Spoilers Discussion
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Those are Kaido's Over Kong Gun level attacks. Top 3 in his arsenal outside of Blazing Bagua. No fighter uses their best abilities all the time during a fight, this doesn't mean they weren't going all out before.
Luffy went all out when he entered Snakeman as he said that was his last G4. Kaido started before him but thanks to his stamina he can keep going at his highest pace longer than Luffy.
There is a considerable difference between using FS and dodging and just using speed. Kizaru doesn't have FS, just saying. Yes Kaido blitzed G5 Luffy I'm not saying this didn't happen but If Kaido could've kept moving at that speed at all times then he would've.
Yes but what's your point ?
Did I call Kaido slow?
Kizaru is a purely speed based fighter. It's taxing to keep up with his speed because he doesn't try to be fast, it's just the pace at which he fights. Kaido has to go as fast as he can and likely can't move at that pace at all times. Again he would if he could do that.
I call that using ones strongest abilities. A character doesn't have to use their final and strongest ability to go all out. Luffy goes all out when he's in G5 while using aCoC. He doesn't need to use Bajrang gun for that unless we thing Luffy didn't go all out against Kata because he didn't use KKG
Luffy went all out when he entered Snakeman as he said that was his last G4. Kaido started before him but thanks to his stamina he can keep going at his highest pace longer than Luffy.
There is a considerable difference between using FS and dodging and just using speed. Kizaru doesn't have FS, just saying. Yes Kaido blitzed G5 Luffy I'm not saying this didn't happen but If Kaido could've kept moving at that speed at all times then he would've.
Yes but what's your point ?
Did I call Kaido slow?
Kizaru is a purely speed based fighter. It's taxing to keep up with his speed because he doesn't try to be fast, it's just the pace at which he fights. Kaido has to go as fast as he can and likely can't move at that pace at all times. Again he would if he could do that.
I call that using ones strongest abilities. A character doesn't have to use their final and strongest ability to go all out. Luffy goes all out when he's in G5 while using aCoC. He doesn't need to use Bajrang gun for that unless we thing Luffy didn't go all out against Kata because he didn't use KKG
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Okay let’s say kizaru doesn’t have an awakening. That still doesn’t change the fact we haven’t seen luffy go all out or be pushed to the levels kaido had him in
Luffy isn’t having a problem tagging kizaru tho. He’s having a problem with him running away and constantly going for vegapunk.
He hasn’t used snakeman attacks in g5, I don’t want to argue about lightning thickness, we can’t really tell whether or not fs is being used, and he used g5 against Lucci meaning it isn’t an indicator of going all out
But yes he is exhausting himself using g5 just like against Lucci
Yes Kizaru hasn’t pushed luffy as much as kaido
There’s still no indication that non g5 Luffy would be useless against kizaru when he wasn’t even fully using his haki. Even in snakeman he wasn’t using conquerors
Luffy isn’t having a problem tagging kizaru tho. He’s having a problem with him running away and constantly going for vegapunk.
He hasn’t used snakeman attacks in g5, I don’t want to argue about lightning thickness, we can’t really tell whether or not fs is being used, and he used g5 against Lucci meaning it isn’t an indicator of going all out
But yes he is exhausting himself using g5 just like against Lucci
Yes Kizaru hasn’t pushed luffy as much as kaido
There’s still no indication that non g5 Luffy would be useless against kizaru when he wasn’t even fully using his haki. Even in snakeman he wasn’t using conquerors
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If we're talking about attack speed like Bagua, Kaido surpasses the FTL according to this chapter. If we're talking about running speed, Kaido surpasses Luffy.
Considering that Luffy isn't far behind Kizaru's speed, but apparently Luffy wasn't giving it his all, the panel where he uses spinning legs doesn't seem like fire, as he used against Kaido.
I see, the Hybrid Kaido easily reached G5 running just like in this chapter and crushed him, while Luffy was trying to escape. Kizaru moved at his maximum speed in this chapter, and Luffy was right behind him. Considering that Kaido is greater than Luffy as shown in the panel above, Kaido would arrive before Luffy in this scenario, which means that Kaido is equal to, if not faster than, Kizaru. And this is because we're talking about the hybrid form that used basic movements for attacks; the named attacks are much, much faster.
Considering that Luffy isn't far behind Kizaru's speed, but apparently Luffy wasn't giving it his all, the panel where he uses spinning legs doesn't seem like fire, as he used against Kaido.
I see, the Hybrid Kaido easily reached G5 running just like in this chapter and crushed him, while Luffy was trying to escape. Kizaru moved at his maximum speed in this chapter, and Luffy was right behind him. Considering that Kaido is greater than Luffy as shown in the panel above, Kaido would arrive before Luffy in this scenario, which means that Kaido is equal to, if not faster than, Kizaru. And this is because we're talking about the hybrid form that used basic movements for attacks; the named attacks are much, much faster.
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