Chapter 238: The Decisive Battle in Demon Infested Shinjuku, Part 15

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4. Arms + 2 mouths + a curse tool >> yeah that makes a whole lot difference even without counting the CE
15 finger Sukuna could switch to 4 arms + 2 mouth mode too ya know
15 fingers means that he has best case scenario 75% of his original CE. Granted, he still won't run out of CE because of his efficiency but you can use CE to amp both CT and your physical stats which means that 15F Sukuna going all out would be using only 75% of his max Cursed Energy to amp himself up, unlike 20F Sukuna who can use 100% of his CE. So yeah, 20F Sukuna should definetly be stronger than 15F. We don't know by how much but if we assume that each finger gives the same amount of CE then 15F is 25% weaker than 20F Sukuna.
 
15 fingers means that he has best case scenario 75% of his original CE. Granted, he still won't run out of CE because of his efficiency but you can use CE to amp both CT and your physical stats which means that 15F Sukuna going all out would be using only 75% of his max Cursed Energy to amp himself up, unlike 20F Sukuna who can use 100% of his CE. So yeah, 20F Sukuna should definetly be stronger than 15F. We don't know by how much but if we assume that each finger gives the same amount of CE then 15F is 25% weaker than 20F Sukuna.
All I know is that Gojo postponed against 15F Sukuna for a month.
 
@EmperorKinyagi please tell me you are NOT being serious about Jogo beating current Maki. :gokulaugh:

Maki outclasses Jobgo in both speed and hax. Worm Naoya > Jobgo in speed, Vaginya >>> Jobgo. He is slower than fresh Naobito. Maki slices him into bits with katana. We are WAY past the likes of Jobgo, even Kashimo is arguably faster than him since he could keep up with Jackpot Hakari who should be at least above Naobito due to Yuta’s own hype.

One can argue Sukuna did not praise Jobgo either since it was implied to be all in his mind. Sukuna even says “wtf you talking about?”

Sukuna wasn’t getting nerfed before Angel, that’s just baseless, absolute headcanon. Don’t be on that side Kinyagi, if you think Sukuna was at 10% output when he summoned THIS Nue, it will only prove your lack of reading comprehension.
 
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@EmperorKinyagi please tell me you are NOT being serious about Jogo beating current Maki. :gokulaugh:

Maki outclasses Jobgo in both speed and hax. Worm Naoya > Jobgo in speed, Vaginya >>> Jobgo. He is slower than fresh Naobito. Maki slices him into bits with katana. We are WAY past the likes of Jobgo, even Kashimo is arguably faster than him since he could keep up with Jackpot Hakari who should be at least above Naobito due to Yuta’s own hype.

One can argue Sukuna did not praise Jobgo either since it was implied to be all in his mind. Sukuna even says “wtf you talking about?”

Sukuna wasn’t getting nerfed before Angel, that’s just baseless, absolute headcanon. Don’t be on that side Kinyagi, if you think Sukuna was at 10% output when he summoned THIS Nue, it will only prove your lack of reading comprehension.
So would Maki blitz and one shot 8 finger Sukuna?
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
Meanwhile Kenjaku: “you might be worth 9 fingers Jogo.”

Kenjaku in databooks written by Gege: “Jogo would even be a hard fight for me.”

Give me Jogo anti-feats that aren’t against Sukuna or Gojo instead of this retarded disaster curse level brain rot.
Jogo canonically dies to the Black Flash + Playful Cloud combo that Hanami tanked.

Jogo canonically is atbest comparable to Naobito in speed, Toji & Maki shit on that tier.

Give Toji or Maki any one Special Grade Cursed Tool (Playful Cloud, ISOH, Soul Splitter Katana) and they stomp Jogo.
 
Jogo canonically dies to the Black Flash + Playful Cloud combo that Hanami tanked.

Jogo canonically is atbest comparable to Naobito in speed, Toji & Maki shit on that tier.

Give Toji or Maki any one Special Grade Cursed Tool and they stomp Jogo.
I’m not arguing with you anymore, you don’t understand the difference between travel and reaction speed and it’s extremely cringeworthy.

Superior reaction speed doesn’t mean you can blitz 😂
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
I’m not arguing with you anymore, you don’t understand the difference between travel and reaction speed and it’s extremely cringeworthy.

Superior reaction speed doesn’t mean you can blitz 😂
It means they can literally toy with Jogo in cqc.

Lets not act like Toji or Maki cannot even close distance against Jogo.
 
It means they can literally toy with Jogo in cqc.

Let’s not act like Toji or Maki cannot even close distance against Jogo.
In CQC sure, but why would Jogo fight Maki and Toji in CQC?????

At what point have I said Jogo wouldn’t get violated Maki or Toji in CQC?????

My guy, you’re arguing for a BLITZ you really don’t know what you’re arguing for

:suresure:

In TRAVEL speed, Maki is below projection sorcery users and was relative to YUJI for God’s sake.

If Naobito (A projection sorcery user) can’t blitz Jogo and Yuji OBVIOUSLY isn’t blitzing Jogo, Maki isn’t either.

Prove that you know the difference between speed types before I keep arguing this
:milaugh:
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
In CQC sure, but why would Jogo fight Maki and Toji in CQC?????

At what point have I said Jogo wouldn’t get violated Maki or Toji in CQC?????

My guy, you’re arguing for a BLITZ you really don’t know what you’re arguing for

:suresure:

In TRAVEL speed, Maki is below projection sorcery users and was relative to YUJI for God’s sake.

If Naobito (A projection sorcery user) can’t blitz Jogo and Yuji OBVIOUSLY isn’t blitzing Jogo, Maki isn’t either.

Prove that you know the difference between speed types before I keep arguing this
:milaugh:
I am very clear in what I am talking about lol.
You're the one mixing stuff up.

Firstly Naobito NEVER attacked Jogo, he evaded 1 attack and got fucked by the next.

Secondly, in what world is Yuji comparable to Toji or Maki in movement? Maki literally tells him to "try and keep up" against Sukuna.

If these guys can react to Mach 3 beings and counter it with punches, dodges, movement... the straight forward answer is no, Jogo is a weakling comparable to Naobito here.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
They got the order messed up, Gojo should have went last lmao. This mfer only helped make Sukuna even more of a monster than he ever was.
 
I am very clear in what I am talking about lol.
You're the one mixing stuff up.

Firstly Naobito NEVER attacked Jogo, he evaded 1 attack and got fucked by the next.

Secondly, in what world is Yuji comparable to Toji or Maki in movement? Maki literally tells him to "try and keep up" against Sukuna.

If these guys can react to Mach 3 beings and counter it with punches, dodges, movement... the straight forward answer is no, Jogo is a weakling comparable to Naobito here.
My guy, Jogo would one shot Naobito the same way even if he wasn’t injured.

Jogo literally had a trap for him at the end of his movement which means he not only reacted to it but literally knew Naobito’s resulting location.

Also, you’re saying that Yuji can’t perceive or react to Maki…

So when Yuji and Maki were fighting Sukuna Yuji couldn’t follow… that’s like objectively wrong lol
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
Did you notice Sukuna kept grouping Kashimo and Gojo together this chapter? Seems a bit like Kashimo had the unfortunate privilege of facing an evolved/stronger Sukuna.
Sukuna grouped kashimo and gojo together a lot of times
Essentially saying that you both are people who aren't "himself".
In the sense that they were the strongest in their eras but they were never like Sukuna - someone who only lives for his pleasure & displeasure.

Kashimo the dude with no DE, no RCT and a 5 minute technique which kills him.. let's stop comparing him to someone who fought Sukuna for 15 chapters lol.
 
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