Controversial General Political Discussion

[NAMELESS]

One could hope for Nato + saudi arabia to step in tell them both to fuck off, form a DMZ between the two and maybe trade Gaza for Recognition and assurances.

Yeah,but you are point on something:there are hostages involved,so Israel will respond with tremendous force.Things will only escalate from now,sadly.

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There are 200 Israelis dead according to my local news.Holy Shit!

 

[Monkey D Theories]

This is really tough.
This weekend is Simchat Torah, a Jewish Holiday. I suppose it wasn't a coincidence that this was when they decided to launch their attack.

I just want this shit to end. Israel will probably lead a bloody and brutal campaign against the Palestinians, and will surely commit more war crimes along the way. Yeah they'll definitely win the war, but nothing is going to change and the hatred the palestinians have towards israelis probably will only get worst.

Not to mention the hatred the larger muslim world will have towards jews. This stuff doesn't just stay in Israel/Palestine. I fear that there will be very real threat to jewish people in diaspora due to what is going on in Israel.

 

[NAMELESS]

This is really tough.
This weekend is Simchat Torah, a Jewish Holiday. I suppose it wasn't a coincidence that this was when they decided to launch their attack.

I just want this shit to end. Israel will probably lead a bloody and brutal campaign against the Palestinians, and will surely commit more war crimes along the way. Yeah they'll definitely win the war, but nothing is going to change and the hatred the palestinians have towards israelis probably will only get worst.

Not to mention the hatred the larger muslim world will have towards jews. This stuff doesn't just stay in Israel/Palestine. I fear that there will be very real threat to jewish people in diaspora due to what is going on in Israel.

They picked this date for symbolic reasons and probably because people would be off guard.I think the next months will be bloody.Israel already took down a skyscrapper there.Crazy stuff.

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

israel terrorists regularly raid and kill people on ramadan.

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As for the territory thing,they could do it with an agreement

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I don't agree with the notion that its ideological war.Its a clash of civilizations in a sense,its has more to do with religion.Israel could integrate all Palestinians into their nation,this conflict would be easy to solve.But since they are all Muslims,that would make jews a minority in Israel.So that will never happen.

 

[Zenos7]

Not to mention the hatred the larger muslim world will have towards jews.

The already have anyway

 

[Tobra]

egyptian policeman fired at an israeli tourist bus killing two

 

[Adam 🍎]

Israel gonna level Gaza to the ground, no more of this shit.

 

[Phoenix D. King]

egyptian policeman fired at an israeli tourist bus killing two

seems that the guy acted on his own volition and has been arrested by Egypt


just 1 pro-palestine terrorist loser.

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Israel gonna level Gaza to the ground, no more of this shit.

it baffles me how people can sympathize with Palestine at this point

Despite being massively outmatched, and losing every encounter for 6 straight decades, they still decide to use terrorism and aggression

 

[NikaInParis]

Who would've thought that getting targeted, made second class citizens in an enclave, and killed for sport over 75 years would result in this

Killing civillians is vile but it was never mentioned by today's Israel supporters because the targets were of the 2nd rate humans till now.

 

[Phoenix D. King]

Who would've thought that getting targeted, made second class citizens in an enclave, and killed for sport over 75 years would result in this

Killing civillians is vile but it was never mentioned by today's Israel supporters because the targets were of the 2nd rate humans till now.

who wouldve thought that occupying land surrounded by your biggest enemy wasnt a good idea


hate Israel all you want, but there always seems to be a common trend among terrorist aggressors...

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

who wouldve thought that occupying land surrounded by your biggest enemy wasnt a good idea


hate Israel all you want, but there always seems to be a common trend among terrorist aggressors...

It's not Israel's land lol. They never owned it. They just stole it after world war 2.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehi_(militant_group)

The people who run Israel today even tried to ally with Hitler DURING THE HOLOCAUST and get him to help them take over Palestine lol.

 

[Phoenix D. King]

It's not Israel's land lol. They never owned it. They just stole it after world war 2.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehi_(militant_group)

The people who run Israel today even tried to ally with Hitler DURING THE HOLOCAUST and get him to help them take over Palestine lol.

80 years ago who gives a fuck

id say about 90-99% of people who were alive in palestine in 1948 are dead rn....


dont give me that bullshit story, its israels land now, any claim by palestine of the land due to birthright/whatever.... is the exact same claim that israel used then.

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

80 years ago who gives a fuck

id say about 90-99% of people who were alive in palestine in 1948 are dead rn....


dont give me that bullshit story, its israels land now, any claim by palestine of the land due to birthright/whatever.... is the exact same claim that israel used then.

80 years ago? Lmao.

Avraham Stern founded Lehi. You say years ago? Let's see how Israel today treats the people who tried to ally with Adolf Hitler, shall we?

In 1980, Israel instituted the Lehi ribbon, red, black, grey, pale blue and white, which is awarded to former members of the Lehi underground who wished to carry it, "for military service towards the establishment of the State of Israel".[30]

so they give medals to the friends of Hitler.

A number of Lehi's members went on to play important roles in Israel's public life.

Yitzhak Shamir, Israeli prime minister 1983–1984 and 1986–1992

The prime Minister, twice, was a friend of Hitler

A memorial ceremony attended by Israeli politicians and government officials is held each year at Stern's grave in the Nahalat Yitzhak Cemetery in Givatayim.[5] In 1978, a postage stamp was issued in his honor.

Every Israeli politician meets every year on the founder's grave to memorialize how they almost joined with Hitler and took Palestine earlier.

They're not representing all the Jews. Israel is a Nazi death cult that got out of control.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

The saddest part about all of this is that the victims are always instrumentalised by people with political agendas.

 

[Malio]

"Why don't palestinians just capitulate and bow down to the murderers that has been killing them since they invaded before, during and after WW2?"

Most retarded arguments and its always from the zionist nazi death cult supporters. If every people that has ever been oppressed thought like this, they'd have never gained freedom from their oppressors.

 

[NikaInParis]

"Why don't palestinians just capitulate and bow down to the murderers that has been killing them since they invaded before, during and after WW2?"

Most retarded arguments and its always from the zionist nazi death cult supporters. If every people that has ever been oppressed thought like this, they'd have never gained freedom from their oppressors.

Though to give the zionists political credit - they have cleverly turned every single Palestinian effort into a "terrorist attack". They framed it such that the world at large sees the word "terrorist" and not soldier (which in the case of open war both sides are).

 

[Malio]

Though to give the zionists political credit - they have cleverly turned every single Palestinian effort into a "terrorist attack". They framed it such that the world at large sees the word "terrorist" and not soldier (which in the case of open war both sides are).

I wouldn't really give the credit to them tbh. I believe it was the brits that started the whole "label everything the Irish do in resistance as terroristic in nature". The zionists (like the americans and the rest of the world lol), are just following the same blueprint tbh

 

[NAMELESS]

A summary:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023...ist-of-key-events-day-2-after-surprise-attack
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/2023-10-07/live-updates-762053

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80 years ago who gives a fuck

id say about 90-99% of people who were alive in palestine in 1948 are dead rn....


dont give me that bullshit story, its israels land now, any claim by palestine of the land due to birthright/whatever.... is the exact same claim that israel used then.

Israel is a thing,we can't expect them to simply pack up and move away anymore.The two-state solution seems to be the only possible way to end this.

 

[Mathias]

Debate is doing pretty well here, very human design, despite being one of the most sensitive topics out there. That’s very sweet, now when do people get banned

Do we have Tsahal soldiers on the forum or dudes from the Hezbollah ??

 

[NAMELESS]

Debate is doing pretty well here, very human design, despite being one of the most sensitive topics out there. That’s very sweet, now when do people get banned

Do we have Tsahal soldiers on the forum or dudes from the Hezbollah ??

lmfao