Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1095 Spoilers Discussion

[YamatoGirl]

I think it's a bad way to dismiss the admirals like that, they are consolidated characters who have already won over part of the fans... I don't know, I feel like ONE PIECE is looking like Naruto every day.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Why you acting like "your WSC shit" is just some agenda and made up thing. Oda portrays Kaido as the strongest. It makes sense that Kizaru is not near that level, and even he mentions Kaido in his first engagement with Luffy. You can't ignore it.

Being the strongest doesn’t mean he’s levels above the other top tiers lmao.

 

[Juanpiz]

Surprised no one has asked Oda who's stronger between Mihawk and Shanks in an sbs yet

Their mothers

 

[Shiroyru]

@ZenZu If Goatik is right, than Sukuna is the only character to beat the TAC Curse

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Saturn is stronger than Sanji, obviously Luffy or Dragon should fight him
While Zoro can control Kizaru

Zoro is going full out against Lucci and you want him to handle Kizaru?????

 

[Dark-Abel]

- we see Kizaru walking towards Luffy, his whole body is emitting light, his face has a blank look as if he's still knocked out and his body is walking on his own
- Luffy is in his old man form and complains about the bright light
- Saturn talks to Bonney about Kuma and the flashback starts
- rest of the chapter is a flashback, it's about Kuma who lives in God Valley
- chapter ends with Garling getting a report that pirates are attacking the island

 

[ShadyOjiro]

A little more worrying then this. The Gorosei and Imu can absolutely be EoS enemies. Thats always has and is fine.

If Kizaru is temporarily down, then its cool because in the least, it can continue later while Luffy recovers and maybe Kizaru doesnt have to focus on Vegapunk for once in the fight.

What TRULY worries me is that if this is just it. Because it means several things:

- Kizaru would be indisputably the most disrespected character in the series. Oda didnt even give him a double spread knockout. Fuck, Bellemy got this not once, but twice lmao

- Oda has sacrificed Admiral standing for the Gorosei. Again, this is FINE as long as the Admiral is portrayed well.

- If Kizaru loses now, then it absolutely means Saturn is losing this arc too because then Luffy has no one else to fight while others are still fighting.

That last point calls into question then how strong are the remaining Yonko and Akainu are if Luffy can 1 tap Admirals now and can defeat "EoS" villains too in the same arc.

I say this for the benefit of EVERY single fanbase (Admirals, Yonko, Gorosei), you better WANT Kizaru to stand up and be the only villain here soon. Him losing this way just downplays virtually every other Marine, while also downplaying the Gorosei because Luffy likely would beat Saturn, which then also downplays Blackbeard and Shanks by the same virtue.

This is why Im not convinced in Kizaru losing yet, or if knocked out, only temporarily. It does A LOT of damage to hype on remaining characters if he goes out this way. Nobody on any side should be happy about this.

Oda can just make kizaru be down momentarily and make Zoro go to Luffy after beating Lucci.
Luffy fights Saturn and it's a stalemate.
Zoro could fight Kizaru and also stall him.

I don't think either gorosei or Admiral falls imo.
Something outside the control of SHs will happen and it will involve either the robot or the Blackbeard pirates.

Looking it like this I think none lose portrayal.

 

[Pringles]

Bro, do you see my PFP? Its not about Yonko>Admirals, its about Luffy being monumentally stronger than everyone ever and not struggling anymore.

That's the whole point of the Nika fruit and that's what I have always expected Oda to do with this incident.

Enough Luffy lowballing by the fandom. Why does the man who defeated Kaido still have to be considered a "low top tier" by some people?

Also as I said, Luffy will be as monumentally strong as Shanks if he pulls the feats you mentioned in your post, nothing to worry about.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Nothing makes you illiterate to place Big Mom as a solid top tier though.
It's actually the contrast.

Shanks is stronger than her but it doesn't mean much considering he's Oda's golden boy.

She’s above the old legends and Blackbeard

But I don’t think she’s on the same level as the upper echelon top tiers

 

[Dragon solos]

@Pew

 

[Dark-Abel]

Surprised no one has asked Oda who's stronger between Mihawk and Shanks in an sbs yet

someone did and Oda said that should be obvious

 

[Blother Fertitta]

Name 2 of my meltdowns lmfao

I have never had an online meltdown like Kinyagi.

Unless the new name of the game for Yonko fans is just lying, which really seems to be the case from the past 5 weeks of you guys getting utterly humiliated

Give it up Seraphoenix, slavery is illegal no matter how much you come online talking about wanting to own slaves

Not a meltdown but I rmmbr the discord flame session with you and KAIDODSTRONGER
shit was the funniest most out of pocket shit i seen there

 

[zhenon]

So Kizaru is slightly stronger than Lucci

 

[park_min young]

She’s above the old legends and Blackbeard

But I don’t think she’s on the same level as the upper echelon top tiers

Blackbeard’s in the upper echelon himself, your tierlist is all wonky

 

[ShadyOjiro]

Zoro is going full out against Lucci and you want him to handle Kizaru?????

"Full out"

Bro this comment gives me Apoo Vs Zoro vibes.
" Zoro can't break his tonfas and is using Haki, he won't fight Kaido with that level".

 

[Hako Sama]

Zoro is going full out against Lucci and you want him to handle Kizaru?????

Just the clone technique is enough to finish Zoro... Truly haunting...

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Taking 1 hit... 1 hit
A blow that's not even above Kong gatling, King Cobra, OKG or even Roc gatling.

This is shameful

It’s definitely above those moves

G5>G4

 

[mmd]

Zoro is going full out against Lucci and you want him to handle Kizaru?????

Doesn't Zoro tie his headscarf when he gets serious?
Why can't a person with advcoc fight Kizaru?

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Blackbeard’s in the upper echelon himself, your tierlist is all wonky

Runs from akainu
Runs from Shanks

idk man

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Ya'll just not reading what I said huh.

If Oda wanted to show Luffy was >>>>>> Kizaru, then this was a terrible way of showing it. Like I said, Bellamy got a more memorable event with a double spread (twice no less). Kizaru is distracted on VP, then his defeat putters on 2/3s of a page.

Its not remotely similar, it just feels like a waste of time. Then defeating a Gorosei now (who now is apparently stronger than Kizaru, sure), what does that say about Akainu, Shanks or Blackbeard?

I would be worried about their "portrayal" just like Kizaru if Kizaru just loses in 1 hit. that wasnt even a doublespread.

We need to accept that Oda doesn't care and hope that Toei steps up.