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Monkey D Theories

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ArturCantSpeakJapanese said:
All easily verified. Israel loves Nazis and modeled their country after Nazis. Biggest trick they ever pulled was tricking people into thinking they speak for all Jews and aren't a fringe cult obsessed with racial supremacy. You know mizrahim are treated poorly in Israel too right? The white ashkenazim (immigrants from Germany) are the minority of the population and they are the ones who rule.
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They don’t speak for all Jews. But at the same time, they aren’t exactly fringe either.

Israel is very important to a lot of jews. Probably a majority of jews from what I’ve seen.

But I would say, it’s not because they’re just shitty people who like seeing Palestinians suffer. It’s more like the type of patriotism that exists in every country.

Most Jews see some form of a connection to the state of Israel. Often times this connection is intertwined with religion. I’ve been to services where they held a “prayer for the state of Israel”. And hence they’re just less conscious of the shitty things israel does.
 
Malakhith

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NAMELESS said:
care to elaborate?
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I'm not @RayanOO but I will try. I actually love history and I'm incredible bored in bed so it can try to unpack it:

Avraham Stern was a man that took as his life mission, as I interpret it, to create a land for the Jewish people. One of the Tenets of the Lehi was that only by opposing the british they could create a jewish state (while others more moderates focused on cooperation). One of the things he was obsessed about was the refugees from Europe and creating a safe haven for them in Palestine (which wasn't allowed by the British). He was claimed as a ally to Nazi Germany because he offered to help the nazis if they allowed Jews to immigrate and give suppport to a Jewish state. Anyone with basic history knowledge knows that this wasn't a feasible idea, but at the time, even most germans didn't knew about the death camps. Basically he was desperate and tried to ally with anyone that he thought could help the jewish people to a point that it was used as propaganda against him by the British.

The Lehi was a terrorist group that killed a lot of innocent people and is actually incredible similar to Hamas (while having fascist ideas that Hamas don't openly support) but claiming that they would approve Hitler and Nazi policies as we know it now is absurd. They actually have a very fair representation in most materials with people recognizing that they did war crimes but also acknowledging how they helped to form Israel. The difference is that, while both Lehi and Hamas are terrorists that did war crimes, one is exalted and another demonized.

In general, if he had focused on talking about the hypocrisy of having statues, monuments and other things for Lehi but treating Hamas as something different he would not be wrong. It's incredible hypocrite to do that since they basically act the same and I agree with this idea. The issue is claiming ties to Nazi Germany that didn't exist and couldn't exist even if they tried.
 
NAMELESS

NAMELESS

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Malakhith said:
I'm not @RayanOO but I will try. I actually love history and I'm incredible bored in bed so it can try to unpack it:

Avraham Stern was a man that took as his life mission, as I interpret it, to create a land for the Jewish people. One of the Tenets of the Lehi was that only by opposing the british they could create a jewish state (while others more moderates focused on cooperation). One of the things he was obsessed about was the refugees from Europe and creating a safe haven for them in Palestine (which wasn't allowed by the British). He was claimed as a ally to Nazi Germany because he offered to help the nazis if they allowed Jews to immigrate and give suppport to a Jewish state. Anyone with basic history knowledge knows that this wasn't a feasible idea, but at the time, even most germans didn't knew about the death camps. Basically he was desperate and tried to ally with anyone that he thought could help the jewish people to a point that it was used as propaganda against him by the British.

The Lehi was a terrorist group that killed a lot of innocent people and is actually incredible similar to Hamas (while having fascist ideas that Hamas don't openly support) but claiming that they would approve Hitler and Nazi policies as we know it now is absurd. They actually have a very fair representation in most materials with people recognizing that they did war crimes but also acknowledging how they helped to form Israel. The difference is that, while both Lehi and Hamas are terrorists that did war crimes, one is exalted and another demonized.

In general, if he had focused on talking about the hypocrisy of having statues, monuments and other things for Lehi but treating Hamas as something different he would not be wrong. It's incredible hypocrite to do that since they basically act the same and I agree with this idea. The issue is claiming ties to Nazi Germany that didn't exist and couldn't exist even if they tried.
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W post.That clears it up.
 
NAMELESS

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NAMELESS

NAMELESS

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Malio said:
Second class citizens and the women are routinely sterilised
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what!?do you have an proof of this?
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Malio said:
Zionist media says they've been told about babies being killed and beheaded by "khamas".

The Source? IDF soldiers lol
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I believe there is video/photo proof out there already.But i'm not digging gore sites right now. Ask @Admiral Maynard for this
 
Malio

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NAMELESS said:
what!?do you have an proof of this?
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It was hidden from them as well.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...-control/0000017f-f512-d044-adff-f7fb92c30000
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NAMELESS said:
what!?do you have an proof of this?
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I believe the is video/photo proof out there already.But i'm not digging gore sites right now. Ask @Admiral Maynard for this
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The only videos of dead babies are from air strikes from both sides. There's nothing (that I've seen at least) of beheaded anyone, let alone babies
 
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