Questions & Mysteries After Gojo and Sukuna who is the next best CQC fighter in the JJK verse?

[Light D Lamperouge]

Title.

We're talking about CQC skills. Amped with CE, CT, anything goes I guess. This isn't necessarily who is the strongest, or who punches stronger etc. You get my drift. These are just off the top of my head. If you got any more names just let me know and I'll add them.

I'd say it's Toji. It's his entire thing.

After that the ranking is more difficult. Perhaps Kashimo and Maki/Yuki.


Discuss.

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[MonochromeYoru]

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

no shot

 

[MonochromeYoru]

no shot

530,000 >>>>>>>>>

 

[Welkin]

Kusakabe

If we're talking about skill specifically

 

[MUUGEN]

this beauty and beast..​

 

[ConquistadoR]

Toji by abilities.
Tsukumo in terms of punching power and how devastating she is in cqc.
Kashimo in terms of raw skill, Gege goes over the top with Kashimo choreography.

 

[zenox]

physical strength - toji / maki
skills - kashimo
ct - yuki

 

[RayanOO]

Kashimo with skills speed and CT

 

[MUUGEN]

Kashimo with skills speed and CT

Yuki still bodies him

 

[JazzMazz]

Yuki still bodies him

I fail to see how.

At this point Yuki and Yuta would have been beaten pretty much instantly by a 15 finger sukuna.

 

[MUUGEN]

I fail to see how.

At this point Yuki and Yuta would have been beaten pretty much instantly by a 15 finger sukuna.

yet maki and yuji who are both substantially weaker can survive, ya good one.....

 

[Ven437]

Maki and Toji are the only right answers. But Maki has more CQC feats than Toji who seems to be more of a weapons specialist whereas Maki is all around.

No one is coming close to how she was able to bumrush 15F Sukuna, block and parry his hit, then palm slap the shit outta him.

 

[JazzMazz]

yet maki and yuji who are both substantially weaker can survive, ya good one.....

They can't.

They didn't fight 15 finger Sukuna. They fought a Sukuna that was maybe at 1.5 fingers(that was his stated output levels).

Again, he was stated to be at roughly 10% of his actual full capacity.

At actual full strength he could kill someone like Ryu, who could go toe to toe with freaking Yuta, in a single instant.

Unless you guys think that Yuji somehow went from pissing and shitting his pants at the idea of fighting Yuta and getting completely overwhelmed by a partially manifested Rika to somehow significantly stronger than Yuta, I think its super obvious that Sukuna's statements make very clear he was fighting at roughly 10% of his full power when he fought Maki and Yuji.

 

[ConquistadoR]

They can't.

They didn't fight 15 finger Sukuna. They fought a Sukuna that was maybe at 1.5 fingers(that was his stated output levels).

Again, he was stated to be at roughly 10% of his actual full capacity.

It's 15 Finger Sukuna with Cursed Technique Output of 1.5 Finger Sukuna.

Don't trust Viz for JJK, we suffer from a Translator who doesn't even read the manga he is translating & is erratic with translations.

 

[ZenZu]

It's 15 Finger Sukuna with Cursed Technique Output of 1.5 Finger Sukuna.

Don't trust Viz for JJK, we suffer from a Translator who doesn't even read the manga he is translating & is erratic with translations.

😭😭😭 Not JJK too, pleeease us weebs have gone too far. At this point we might as well learn Japanese.

 

[JazzMazz]

It's 15 Finger Sukuna with Cursed Technique Output of 1.5 Finger Sukuna.

Don't trust Viz for JJK, we suffer from a Translator who doesn't even read the manga he is translating & is erratic with translations.

I'm 50/50 on that. I think I'm going to go with the official over the fan scan here(because its mentioned twice, and I wonder what the translation for the first one is).

And again, that still puts Yuji at massively stronger than Yuta and Rika, which I find completely implausible.

Also, it makes more sense when you consider Gojo's strength as being so great that he could pretty much one shot Yuta or Hakari with a single serious punch enhanced by Blue if he wanted to.

 

[ConquistadoR]

😭😭😭 Not JJK too, pleeease us weebs have gone too far. At this point we might as well learn Japanese.

Nah Stephen Paul atleast reads One Piece the manga he is translating.

John Werry doesn't even follow JJK. He just translates for the pay cheque, every single bit of nuance that Gege actually adds both into the powersystem & the story gets lost in translation.

JP Fans on Twitter provide better T/L than John Werry, been the case since Culling Games tbf.

 

[ZenZu]

Nah Stephen Paul atleast reads One Piece the manga he is translating.

John Werry doesn't even follow JJK. He just translates for the pay cheque, every single bit of nuance that Gege actually adds both into the powersystem & the story gets lost in translation.

JP Fans on Twitter provide better T/L than John Werry, been the case since Culling Games tbf.

Damn, ain't that a bitch...I lowwkey don't even blame the dude, JJK is so convoluted, he would be working two jobs to keep up lmfao.
But nah that actually sucks.

I was mostly talking about how JJK discourse is about translations. One Piece was the first and only fanbase that had this obsession with translators more than the chapters themselves. I've never seen that from Bleach, HxH and Naruto fanbases. That's interesting.

 

[ConquistadoR]

I'm 50/50 on that. I think I'm going to go with the official over the fan scan here(because its mentioned twice, and I wonder what the translation for the first one is).

TCB here...

Spoiler

And again, that still puts Yuji at massively stronger than Yuta and Rika, which I find completely implausible.

Wait what? Huh?
Yuta neg diffs Yuji don't get it twisted.

Also, it makes more sense when you consider Gojo's strength as being so great that he could pretty much one shot Yuta or Hakari with a single serious punch enhanced by Blue if he wanted to.

Hold up... run me through your logic again? I'm not following one bit.

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I was mostly talking about how JJK discourse is about translations. One Piece was the first and only fanbase that had this obsession with translators more than the chapters themselves. I've never seen that from Bleach, HxH and Naruto fanbases. That's interesting.

With JJK it's a real problem bro.
Viz is absolute ass. The dude hasn't even figured out attack names, you'll find Gojo's Blue called "Blue" in some chapters and "Azure Glow" in others lmfao.

Twitter & Community translations were a helluva lot better.