Speculations The key to resisting Saturn's power is haki and Zoro's future role

Wh1p

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This should be fairly obvious after last arc, but haki will always be the natural counter to devil fruit abilities.



After a poor navy man became headless last chapter, I'd assume that those who are the rank of captain and above are those who have enough willpower to not be killed by Saturn's glare.



We also know that Sanji and Bonney, two powerful new gen pirates were not killed by his glare due to their strong wills. Despite this though, they were still rendered immobilized by his powers.



While Luffy is the captain and strongest combatant of the crew, he's reached his limit from fighting Kizaru, and thus I believe that it will be Zoro who will hold off Saturn. He has the will of a conqueror like his captain and often steps in to fight when Luffy cannot. Examples of this include Thriller Bark against Kuma and Wano against Kaido. Perhaps he will have a will capable of resisting these seemingly telekinetic powers. The only issue at the moment seems to be that Lucci is holding him off but their paths could eventually cross.

To all my Sanji bros, I wouldn't be mad at this because it's already happened before. Sanji almost broke his leg against Kuma, while Zoro was able to hold him off for a bit and even break through his steel body.
 
Zaretball

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Saturn killed the navy guy because he disobeyed the order and not because he was weak. He chooses who he will attack with his glare, otherwise other characters like Franky, Vegapunk and several other people around would also be hit at the moment Saturn attacked Sanji and Bonney.
 
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Hako Sama

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Honestly I can't see Zoro holding back Saturn, like you said he's dealing with Lucci rn and Lucci is no easy job for him, so it makes no sense Zoro negging Lucci and then holding back Saturn, that's more a Zoro's fan wet dream than something logical.
What makes sense is that either the Robot or Kuma will protect the SHPs from Saturn, since Kuma has his connection to Bonney and the Flashback, and the Ancient Robot has his connection to Nika.
 
Sir Yasheen

Sir Yasheen

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Haki doesn’t counter every devil fruit power. A CoA master and CoC user couldn’t counter the gravity of the Yami after all.

The only person who was able to resist this is Franky being able to use his robotics. Likely Kuma and the ancient robot are coming in to be able to counter this.
 
RoronoaZorro

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I wouldn't be mad because some part of that scene is able to make Franky shine by saving Luffy. Something Sanji always done in every arc.

Sanjibro like me rarely being egoistical and only think about Sanji own character, dismissing SH as a whole.

If something can give spotlight to a SH awesomeness at the expense of Sanji, I would be glad to have that.

- Nami in WCI putting some sense to Sanji, at the expense of Sanji getting slapped.
- Robin in Wano rescuing Sanji & pays back Enies Lobby, at the expense of Sanji getting trapped & humiliated.
- Franky saving Luffy & praised by Saturn at the expense of Sanji got immobilized.

Look past negativity and you'll see there's something good.
 
BillSlipton

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Wh1p said:
This should be fairly obvious after last arc, but haki will always be the natural counter to devil fruit abilities.



After a poor navy man became headless last chapter, I'd assume that those who are the rank of captain and above are those who have enough willpower to not be killed by Saturn's glare.



We also know that Sanji and Bonney, two powerful new gen pirates were not killed by his glare due to their strong wills. Despite this though, they were still rendered immobilized by his powers.



While Luffy is the captain and strongest combatant of the crew, he's reached his limit from fighting Kizaru, and thus I believe that it will be Zoro who will hold off Saturn. He has the will of a conqueror like his captain and often steps in to fight when Luffy cannot. Examples of this include Thriller Bark against Kuma and Wano against Kaido. Perhaps he will have a will capable of resisting these seemingly telekinetic powers. The only issue at the moment seems to be that Lucci is holding him off but their paths could eventually cross.

To all my Sanji bros, I wouldn't be mad at this because it's already happened before. Sanji almost broke his leg against Kuma, while Zoro was able to hold him off for a bit and even break through his steel body.
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Sanji was far more damaged than zoro was at that point. Thats an unfair comparison. Vs Kuma is invalid due to the massive difference in health.

The only reason that zoro went solo vs Kuma was because sanji was down. As soon as sanji could walk again you know he was trying to take zoros place.

Yall are counting my boy sanji out too early. Let's wait and see what he does
 
Julius

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Wh1p said:
To all my Sanji bros, I wouldn't be mad at this because it's already happened before. Sanji almost broke his leg against Kuma, while Zoro was able to hold him off for a bit and even break through his steel body.
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Heh, Sanji attacked Kuma with a regular kick, not Diable Jambe tho.

And he had fought Absalom, got hurt by a lot and even stabbed in the chest by him, all before fighting Luffy's Zombie and show a great performance in the fight (and get beaten too)

As for Zoro vs Saturn

For the most part, everytime Zoro ends up fighting, attacking or having a scuffle with one of Luffy's opponents, Sanji doesn't get to fight that opponent, they don't even engage in combat or meet each other in person. So i hardly doubt Zoro is fighting Saturn when he already made contact with Sanji and also attacked him. If he fights in a group, then yeah, but alone? I don't think so

Oda was even willing to give Franky a feat here, which makes me believe his role wont be as important against Saturn in the next chapters.
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Sir Yasheen said:
Haki doesn’t counter every devil fruit power. A CoA master and CoC user couldn’t counter the gravity of the Yami after all.

The only person who was able to resist this is Franky being able to use his robotics. Likely Kuma and the ancient robot are coming in to be able to counter this.
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I don't think Franky managed to resist it by being a Cyborg, he couldn't move afterwards, and Saturn didn't attacked him to hurt.

Although the possibility is interesting, because Kuma and the robot are indeed not human, or at least not completely humans. If thats the case then this hints Sanji's enhancements can end up being useful here more than expected
 
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Cozy Sofa

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Zoro already has his hands full. I refuse to downplay or underestimate Lucci. Similar to Gear 5 running out I think Zoro might deplete too much of his stamina through AdCoC in order to take out Lucci. He'll be able to fight Marines but not Saturn back to back.

Anyhow as God of Science one would think Saturns attack is somehow scientific rather than the result of a DF. Or at the very least CoC (killing intent) used in a special way, a bit like Zoro vs Monet that couldn't even handle her DF due to fear.

If it is the former Zoro is not the smartest to pick it up immediately (Luffy is, and he is observing). If it is the later Zoro may recognize it and gain another feat of countering it but the man already has so many feats so it accomplishes nothing.
 
nik87

nik87

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The first step of resisting Saturn is figuring out his ability. Remember Apoo? :pepapoo:
His ability seemed overpowered and unavoidable. Turns out it is rather easy to deal with it.
Once you know how to counter it. The same will apply here.

The stare ability could work exactly the same as Apoo's so it would come to dodging/blocking instead of willpower resistance.
The paralyzing ability could be physical, he is partly a spider and Sanji has already been tangled in a web once.
This could be the same, they are probably not noticing the webs. Or it is some forcefield of DF that could be countered by Haki.

I dont think Zoro and Saturn will share any panels because all of it is saved up for the God of Finance.
Whatever can occur against Saturn, will occur against Venus.
 
Salah WG

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Saturn's Ability is Observation Haki Level 02
It's same Technique Zunisha used on Momo or Yasopp used on Usopp during Film Red

You are able to share your Vision with others
However, in World of One Piece, the Higher your Haki Level, the Higher your "Insight" & how you Sense the World.

It's like a Computer that can run a very demanding Program, you can't just Install & Run that Program on an Inferior Computer, instead you have to only send a Program that Old Computer can handle

In Saturn's Case, his Haki Level is Very High, and He uses CoO Level 02 on others to make them try & see through his Eyes, but He does it with Harmful Intent, He doesn't hold back at all, so those who are much Weaker than him, their Heads are unable to grasp what He is trying to show them (He is a Demon too), so they explode, or He can only Damage them, or Paralyze them temporarily

Imo, anyone with Very High Haki Level can resist Saturn's Ability, possibly same goes for those who have Voice of All Things, and also Haoshoku Haki, aside from this, it's possible that anything that doesn't have Haki can resist him too, such as Robots (Maybe Atlas isn't Effected & first thing Next Chapter, She gonna attack him), another Person who could immune to Gorosei's Gaze is Brook who already travelled to Hell
 
Croco boy

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Im in for zoro hype but it seem unlikely at the moment he is occupied with lucci and i dont see him being low diffed it will take more effort.
That being said all the narrative is point out to luffy restarting his drum g5 then save bonney
 
Bisoromi Bear

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