Chapter Discussion Fairytail: 100 Years Quest Ch.143 God Battle

Who Wins?

  • God Serena

    Votes: 1 20.0%
  • Jellal

    Votes: 4 80.0%

  • Total voters
    5
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Cruxroux

#21
He got one shotted by the one character who can one shot every character in the verse bar dragon gods and Igneel, not sure what your point is there.
And even then, he got some good feats. No diff'd Jura + 3 GOI in base. Physically clashed equally with Gildarts and fought him for a while while massively nerfed as a historia, while Gildarts implied he would've been a big challenge at full power, basically getting portrayed relative to him.

In the 100YQ, he has been dominating. No diff'd ISM Gajeel, who scales to LFD Natsu, portrayed again to Gildarts level. Pretty much mid-diffing Jellal so far, who by portrayal is relative to Laxus.
He already tanked the usual spell the Jellal uses to one shot his opponents, so there is something better coming up at least.



Doesn't the alchemy version perform at same level as original?

I don't think he's nerfed this time, unlike when he was historia.

I think there is a good chance he is even stronger here compared to when he was alive, since I doubt Gildarts from an year ago would be this strong
Lmao get out of the power scaling zone.
I'm talking about the humiliation, author never decided to use him. And that same stuff is gonna happen again.
And jellal is by no means weak. New arc everyone came out strong. Jellal was already strong enough to be on the strongest Top 10 of ishagar.
Laxus who wasn't even there one shot the fourth rank if I'm not wrong or 7th one. Jura.
 
#22
Lmao get out of the power scaling zone.
I'm talking about the humiliation, author never decided to use him. And that same stuff is gonna happen again.
And jellal is by no means weak. New arc everyone came out strong. Jellal was already strong enough to be on the strongest Top 10 of ishagar.
Laxus who wasn't even there one shot the fourth rank if I'm not wrong or 7th one. Jura.
He wasn't humiliated like the usual fodder Spriggan, what are you talking about?
Usual fodder Spriggan got taken out like flies by the good guys. In contrast, Serena was acknowledged by August and Gildarts.

When did I say Jellal is weak? I am just saying Serena is strong. With his recent performance, he is stronger

??
I am not sure what you are talking about, when did Laxus one shot Jura??
 
#24
Pretty sure it were all the strong people who took out spirggan 12.
It isn't that they were taken out. It is that they got DESTROYED

Look at Neinhart for example.
Jellal flexed his magic power, and dude shat his pants. And proceeded to get one shot by Jellal's mid tier spell.

Ajeel was almost one shot by Laxus.

Jacob got one shot by Natsu

Wahl could fight Laxus only due to lightning immunity, and got one shot the moment Laxus bypassed it with red lightning

Bradman got destroyed within 5 secs the moment Gajeel went into DF

Dimaria got her hax broken and one shot by a less demonized version of END than that Gray stalemated.

In contrast, God Serena no diff'd a stronger version of Gajeel than in Alverez, and is mid diffing a stronger version of Jellal than in Alverez.

Grand magic games ig
Huh???

Laxus extreme diff'd Jura there, I am not sure what you are even reading.
 
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Cruxroux

#25
Huh???

Laxus extreme diff'd Jura there, I am not sure what you are even reading.
Bruh that was straight up one shot.
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t isn't that they were taken out. It is that they got DESTROYED

Look at Neinhart for example.
Jellal flexed his magic power, and dude shat his pants. And proceeded to get one shot by Jellal's mid tier spell.

Ajeel was almost one shot by Laxus.

Jacob got one shot by Natsu

Wahl could fight Laxus only due to lightning immunity, and got one shot the moment Laxus bypassed it with red lightning

Bradman got destroyed within 5 secs the moment Gajeel went into DF

Dimaria got her hax broken and one shot by a less demonized version of END than that Gray stalemated.

In contrast, God Serena no diff'd a stronger version of Gajeel than in Alverez, and is mid diffing a stronger version of Jellal than in Alverez
Laxus and Natsu are not strong individual but very strong individuals.
Gajeel was strong to begin with Dragon gorce pushed the limits further.

END is someone Igneel/zeref/Acnologia level character. Even if weaker. Still very strong than majority.

God Serena is a clown , 8 dragon Crystal and what about it?
Still got one shotted in the end.
Current Laxus and Natsu can perform the same shit.

Acnologia didn't even try hard enough.
 

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#26
He got one shotted by the one character who can one shot every character in the verse bar dragon gods and Igneel, not sure what your point is there.
And even then, he got some good feats. No diff'd Jura + 3 GOI in base. Physically clashed equally with Gildarts and fought him for a while while massively nerfed as a historia, while Gildarts implied he would've been a big challenge at full power, basically getting portrayed relative to him.

In the 100YQ, he has been dominating. No diff'd ISM Gajeel, who scales to LFD Natsu, portrayed again to Gildarts level. Pretty much mid-diffing Jellal so far, who by portrayal is relative to Laxus.
He already tanked the usual spell the Jellal uses to one shot his opponents, so there is something better coming up at least.




Doesn't the alchemy version perform at same level as original?

I don't think he's nerfed this time, unlike when he was historia.

I think there is a good chance he is even stronger here compared to when he was alive, since I doubt Gildarts from an year ago would be this strong

Maybe just as strong but exposing the trick of alchemy should cancel the spell (speculation) plus FT usually has power boost to close or even over come the gap
 
#27
Bruh that was straight up one shot.
This is just plain wrong.

You need to stop typing random nonsense and go re-read.
Jura initially started the fight even better than Laxus. They then started going even and exchanged MANY attacks (i.e provably not a one shot). Then the rest of the fight happened OFF SCREEN, where eventually Laxus extreme diff'd Jura. And by the time Laxus was done, he was barely even able to walk! It was a classic extreme diff fight

Laxus and Natsu are not strong individual but very strong individuals.
Gajeel was strong to begin with Dragon gorce pushed the limits further.

END is someone Igneel/zeref/Acnologia level character. Even if weaker. Still very strong than majority.

God Serena is a clown , 8 dragon Crystal and what about it?
Still got one shotted in the end.
Current Laxus and Natsu can perform the same shit.

Acnologia didn't even try hard enough.
What is even this man, you're just completely wrong about everything that I don't even know where to start. Just stop........

END got stalemated by GRAY. Igneel/Acno level character it seems, I just can't.....Maybe if END got fully demonized he could've reached that level, but we never got to see it. Whatever version that one shotted Dimaria is complete fodder to Igneel/Acno.
Zeref shouldn't even be on the same sentence as Igneel or Acno, they both would one shot Zeref. Zeref himself admits he is utter fodder compared to Acnologia, was afraid that when Acno was done with his empire, he would be Acno's eternal punching bag because he can't die.

Acnologia was serious against God Serena, had shaded out eyes (classic shounen way of showing seriouness), and blitzed him so hard that even AUGUST (strongest Spriggan) didn't even realize God Serena died until Acno reached a 100m behind them. August was completely terrified there and shat his pants, but Acno wasn't serious there apparently


God Serena just no diff'd a stronger version of Gajeel than in Alverez, who scales to current LFD Natsu.
God Serena is mid diffing current Jellal, who is stronger than Alverez Jellal and has portrayal relative to current Laxus.
Just because you say Alverez versions of Natsu or Laxus could've done it, doesn't make it true. Natsu actually can, if he pulls out Dragon Force, not with his lesser mode. Laxus can't.

It's completely pointless continuing this, cause you are horribly wrong about everything you are typing here.
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Maybe just as strong but exposing the trick of alchemy should cancel the spell (speculation) plus FT usually has power boost to close or even over come the gap
Yeah, whatever Rouge is doing seems to be pointing to that direction.

He is finding some dolls which may be related to the alchemy revivals such as God Serena
 
#28
Was shocked not finding any real discussion in regards to FT. Still one of my personal favorites not sure who's into FT so you all get tagged.

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呪のろいの王
#31
Juvia is 100% one of My favorites second only to Zeref

Tho in 100 year quest Ignia is up there
oh wow big Juvia Stan over here I love her she is a good and fun character well kinda everyone is that’s why I like the anime/manga so much fun and easy going all around but hmm I’d have to think about who’s my favorite
Lucy remains my fav character :catblush:
I like Wendy better than the two especially when she’s fighting she’s such a little badass the Irene mode was pretty dope to see I wonder if she can channel into that since she essentially “unlocked” it already but now she’s a high level enchanter like her so will be cool to see those moving forward.
GOAT Serena should win logically as things stand, but Mashima gonna bullshit and make Jellal win somehow.

I am at least hoping it makes some logical sense by giving Jellal a powerup.
Serena did mention about sins (getting reshashed for the 100th time in the spinoff lol). So, might as well make things interesting by having the Seigrain persona return and have Jellal go batshit crazy for a change, instead of being a useless wimp he is usually
Well this is true but Jellal has always been a badass and has only lost to the top tiers in the verse tbh

the problem with jellal though is he has a full arsenal but uses the same 3 attacks every time with Serena and sting and matching his elements he should showcase hidden abilities

yeah he’s been a bitch and all era wants is for him to be around
Serena got one shotted.
Bro is always humiliated.
To the sukuna of the verse ofc he got one shot and so does everyone else hahaha

you see these 5 dragon Gods well 6 he had them bitch out and go into hiding while he was able to kill Igneel the one said to be the strongest stronger than them. No one logically 1on1 beats acnologia and the 6 dragon gods didn’t want the smoke they could’ve combined powers and still lost
He got one shotted by the one character who can one shot every character in the verse bar dragon gods and Igneel, not sure what your point is there.
And even then, he got some good feats. No diff'd Jura + 3 GOI in base. Physically clashed equally with Gildarts and fought him for a while while massively nerfed as a historia, while Gildarts implied he would've been a big challenge at full power, basically getting portrayed relative to him.

In the 100YQ, he has been dominating. No diff'd ISM Gajeel, who scales to LFD Natsu, portrayed again to Gildarts level. Pretty much mid-diffing Jellal so far, who by portrayal is relative to Laxus.
He already tanked the usual spell the Jellal uses to one shot his opponents, so there is something better coming up at least
God Serena hype and a proper fight at that. Can’t wait for next chapter
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Well, I kinda lost interest in FT lately, the 100YQ is somewhat meh, plus the bi-weekly release makes it easy to miss.
well friend let’s get you interested again I’ll make this every release with link for you.
I read it too. Can you please add me to the tag? :)

And I think that Jellal will win....even if I like God Serena :josad:
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呪のろいの王
#33
Thanks :)

Sadly he will use that to win

But imo Jellal only can win with a power up or with Sema or Abys Break or a new spell that is stronger than Sema.

But maybe Rogue or CS will appear to help him.
jellal isnt really one to use PoF tbh hes on the same level and Laxus and hasn't had too strong of an opponent and if he loses then natsu will ocme with the PoF or Erza will come and save him.

I do like the idea of Rogue though, I wonder if he can gain new DS powers taking over one of his elements "eating" wise
 
#34
jellal isnt really one to use PoF tbh hes on the same level and Laxus and hasn't had too strong of an opponent and if he loses then natsu will ocme with the PoF or Erza will come and save him.
Yep, I also don't think that jellal will use Pof to win so we have a chance to get a good fight with a good ending.

If Jellal should lose.....well then I really hope that Natsu and Erza will never fight against GS.


I do like the idea of Rogue though, I wonder if he can gain new DS powers taking over one of his elements "eating" wise
Would be great, but I hope that he eat a new element and not the "light" element like F. Rogue it did.

Any chance that we will get a flashback about GS life?
 
#35
Well this is true but Jellal has always been a badass and has only lost to the top tiers in the verse tbh

the problem with jellal though is he has a full arsenal but uses the same 3 attacks every time with Serena and sting and matching his elements he should showcase hidden abilities

yeah he’s been a bitch and all era wants is for him to be around
I wouldn't call the current version of JelLol a badass lol.
Strong yes, but he is lame and a wimp. He used to be great back when he was a villain though.

Yes, that is amongst my main problem with this character. We only see the two sets of spells for the most part - meteor, grand chariot. With some occasional sema or random HBM spells sprinkled in.
The worst part about this is that, he is a character that is an established master of all basic elements, knows dark magic, Mystogan's magic and other random spells like barrier, self destruction, etc.
If Mashima wants, he can give us an actual MAGE BATTLE with him, but nah, it's Grand Chariot for the 100th time. SMH. I am at least glad here that God Serena tanked the Grand Chariot and laughed at it. This means we will at least get to see some other spells from him.

God Serena hype and a proper fight at that. Can’t wait for next chapter
He was the biggest wasted potential of Alverez arc. I remember back in the days, when he had arguably the most amount of fan theories floating around. The hype surrounding him was insane, he was basically the source of hype for the standard Spriggans (who didn't deserve it). All wasted.
If Mashima's intent was to hype up Acnologia, he should've at least had God Serena have a fully fleshed out fight before. We didn't even know his last 4 elements then -_-

I am so glad that GS is finally getting the screentime and combat feats that he deserves.

Thanks :)

Sadly he will use that to win

But imo Jellal only can win with a power up or with Sema or Abys Break or a new spell that is stronger than Sema.

But maybe Rogue or CS will appear to help him.
I REALLY hope that this "sins" plotline that Serena bought up will actually lead to something, other than Jellal instantly brushing it off like he did against that Aldoron seed.
Else it will just be the same old rehashed bullshit that we saw in the soinoff.

Ideally, my preference is that he gets taken over by his "Seigrain" persona, and we get to see the old badass Jellal at least for a few chapters, without the guild trip and lame wimpy shit we usually get from him.
The "sins" part against the Aldo seed was handled very poorly, where he just put all the blame on Segrain persona instead of accepting it was just basically him. I mean what the fuck was that!! Very uncharacteristic of a dude who otherwise keeps blaming himself and whining. Now, he should accept it, leading to Seigrain at least temporarily taking over.

Back when he was a villain, the entire energy surrounding him was completely different. His persona reflected the archmage that he is. A genius who learns magic in seconds after observing them, was ruthless.
My headcanon is that the reason he stopped using those magic is due to some mental barrier due to guilt or whatever, which won't be there is Seigrain is in control.

If Seigrain takes over and results in a powerup, at least it won't feel like bullshit if Jellal wins. Cause as things are standing, God Serena is thoroughly overwhelming him, like he is clearly and obviously stronger than Jellal. It's a solid mid diff so far

But imo Jellal only can win with a power up or with Sema or Abys Break or a new spell that is stronger than Sema.
I would love to see Abyss Break as well.

That shit had so much hype back in the days, but Mashima didn't let the spell be finished both the times.

But it shouldn't work on God Serena, who has 4 primary elements himself. He could it it for a powerup.
Tho best case scenario would be to see God Serena match/overpower Jellal's Abyss Break with his own! (GS theoretically can maybe use it since he has 4 primary elements himself). Would be hype AF.

I really don't like Sema, it's just a meteor from space. Eileen showed us an upgraded version of that, so it doesn't even have hype anymore.
I want to see something new and stronger from him. Maybe a spell related to black hole or star? Would be hype.
 
#36
I REALLY hope that this "sins" plotline that Serena bought up will actually lead to something, other than Jellal instantly brushing it off like he did against that Aldoron seed.
Else it will just be the same old rehashed bullshit that we saw in the soinoff.

Ideally, my preference is that he gets taken over by his "Seigrain" persona, and we get to see the old badass Jellal at least for a few chapters, without the guild trip and lame wimpy shit we usually get from him.
The "sins" part against the Aldo seed was handled very poorly, where he just put all the blame on Segrain persona instead of accepting it was just basically him. I mean what the fuck was that!! Very uncharacteristic of a dude who otherwise keeps blaming himself and whining. Now, he should accept it, leading to Seigrain at least temporarily taking over.

Back when he was a villain, the entire energy surrounding him was completely different. His persona reflected the archmage that he is. A genius who learns magic in seconds after observing them, was ruthless.
My headcanon is that the reason he stopped using those magic is due to some mental barrier due to guilt or whatever, which won't be there is Seigrain is in control.

If Seigrain takes over and results in a powerup, at least it won't feel like bullshit if Jellal wins. Cause as things are standing, God Serena is thoroughly overwhelming him, like he is clearly and obviously stronger than Jellal. It's a solid mid diff so far
Oh yes, I hope you're right with that, it would be great if Hiro would use his Siegrain persona as a power up.
With that "sins" plotline it would make sense because Siegrain was his biggest sin.
So if he somehow turns again to Siegrain it would be a nice twist especially if God Serena knows Siegrain because GS was the one who mentioned Jellals sin.
Now I am more excited to see the next chapter because I hope this will happen in someway.

And I also liked his Siegrain persona more than his Jellal persona, after he was defeated Jellal turned to a boring character, now Hiro has the chance to let Jellal shine again and make his character good again.


But it shouldn't work on God Serena, who has 4 primary elements himself. He could it it for a powerup.
Tho best case scenario would be to see God Serena match/overpower Jellal's Abyss Break with his own! (GS theoretically can maybe use it since he has 4 primary elements himself). Would be hype AF.
Do you think he can use it?
Well if he can use it wouldn't it be a more powerful version because GS 4 elements are ds magics, so his Abys Break must be a ds spell too? And ds magics are more powerful than a normal element spell? So Jellals Abys Break would be destroyed if GS would use his own one (if he can use it). :choppawhat:


I really don't like Sema, it's just a meteor from space. Eileen showed us an upgraded version of that, so it doesn't even have hype anymore.
I want to see something new and stronger from him. Maybe a spell related to black hole or star? Would be hype.
A black hole would be sick but isn't his Altairis spell a black hole?
 
#37
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I feel the complete opposite about it man :kobeha:

But everyone got a different cup of tea. FT had some fun moments but ultimately there was too much PIS with Erza and Natsu throughout the story coupled with a terrible final arc and an ending that was straight out of DBZ.
 
#38
Oh yes, I hope you're right with that, it would be great if Hiro would use his Siegrain persona as a power up.
With that "sins" plotline it would make sense because Siegrain was his biggest sin.
So if he somehow turns again to Siegrain it would be a nice twist especially if God Serena knows Siegrain because GS was the one who mentioned Jellals sin.
Now I am more excited to see the next chapter because I hope this will happen in someway.

And I also liked his Siegrain persona more than his Jellal persona, after he was defeated Jellal turned to a boring character, now Hiro has the chance to let Jellal shine again and make his character good again.
Yeah, agree with everything here.

The first time he turned evil, he got a massive powerup as a kid. It should be a personality thing.
He doesn't necessarily need to be evil, but the switch needs to happen so that he can be what he used to be. The character right now is too timid and boring.

Do you think he can use it?
Well if he can use it wouldn't it be a more powerful version because GS 4 elements are ds magics, so his Abys Break must be a ds spell too? And ds magics are more powerful than a normal element spell? So Jellals Abys Break would be destroyed if GS would use his own one (if he can use it). :choppawhat:
Yeah, I think he can.
Abyss Break is a unison raid of 4 primary elements. Theoretically, any mage with mastery of 4 primary elements should be able to do it.

And yes, the Abyss Break from GS would probably be stronger, since DS elements are typically stronger than standard elements.
Though it may not be always the case. Because golden flames used by Jellal in OS arc was stronger than Natsu's flames. But that could just be because Natsu himself was far weaker than Jellal back in the days

But anyway, at this point I would just be glad to see the spell in actual action after all these years.
Would be hype if I get to see I get to see TWO of them. Who cares if GS's Abyss Break overpowers Jellal's lol, would be leading to a longer fight where GS looks impressive for a bit more, all good for me

A black hole would be sick but isn't his Altairis spell a black hole?
It has some strong gravitational property, but I don't think it was black hole.
Because Natsu/Erza were instantly pulled into it, gravitation from black hole is insane.

Honestly, IDK what that spell is lol.
But IMO it makes no sense for a meteor to be a stronger spell than a black hole, and Sema > Altiaris. Order should be meteor < planet < star < black hole
 

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呪のろいの王
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I feel the complete opposite about it man :kobeha:

But everyone got a different cup of tea. FT had some fun moments but ultimately there was too much PIS with Erza and Natsu throughout the story coupled with a terrible final arc and an ending that was straight out of DBZ.
I just started rewatching a breath of fresh air. It’s supposed to be a fun and easy not too serious anime/manga a little carefree and haram but loving it.

I’m enjoying the manga rn cause it’s been non stop action which is kinda what I’ve been into lately cause of jjk
 
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