It doesn't make sense for any of the Gorosei to be top tiers.This breaks the balance of powers.
They've basically won for over 800 years. Nothing until now with Nika finally returning and the successor to Xebec has rattled their control of the world. So, Imu has never needed to take direct action because his Marines and CP can do it for him. But now, the cracks are showing.
 
I can't tell Mihawks strength for sure, but Oda is putting Mihawk + Croc as a duo on par with a single Yonko. That's what I get from his portrayal and story telling.

Unless Buggy is meant to have an awakening.
Nah.

Mihawk > Shanks

Crocodile and Buggy are yonko commanders
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yc=admiral is the dumbest take ever.
That's not what I said.
 
Luffy's going to want to protect Vegapunk yea but it's gonna be a Katakuri situation where Kizaru will give him no choice


It depends on Zoro beating Lucci by the time the both get up, he's far from the fight below right now so he will put his focus on what's in front of him

That goes for anyone else up top in punk records, they're focused on preparing the escape route and even then it would take too long to reach down where Saturn is at

The ones who are down there are being held up by Saturns abilities, they'll probably be freed by the time Luffy and Kuma attack Saturn but they won't be able to interviene by the time Kizaru gets Luffy away from the fight

Much like how Luffy was able to hold up Kizaru the inverse will also be true
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Real
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I have a strong feeling Oda will give us a single panel of Zoro landing his signature one sword style blow on Lucci and finishing him that way by the time we get back to that fight.
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hmmm

then it follows:
Warlords = Yonko - Admirals
Admirals = Yonko - Warlords

Meaning:
Yonko > Admirals
Yonko > Warlords
Ok,that makes sense.But Admiral are still relative to Yonko.No YC1(except for Zoro and maybe Ben) will be their level.
 
I have a strong feeling Oda will give us a single panel of Zoro landing his signature one sword style blow on Lucci and finishing him that way by the time we get back to that fight.
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Ok,that makes sense.But Admiral are still relative to Yonko.No YC1(except for Zoro and maybe Ben) will be their level.
Admirals are between yonko and yonko commanders.

Gorosei are relative to the yonko.

Imu is relative to EOS Nika.
 
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I could see Kidd teaming up with Blackbeard to take out Shanks and Law teaming up with Shanks to take out Blackbeard.That way we get a Law vs Kidd and we get to see Shanks getting taken out the same arc.Kidd and BlackBeard win.Kidd becomes his own captain again and Luffy has a reason to go after him once he takes out Blackbeard.
Hmm that would be interesting, I've seen some people speculate about Kidd and Blackbeard teaming up against Shanks but Law teaming up with Shanks to go after BB? VERY interesting1 And thus as you said, we could get an actual Law vs Kidd fight, which would be DOPE but I already know Oda is gonna make Law the victor in that one given his overwhelming biases with Law and Shanks lol.

Kidd and Blackbeard winning would be so hype, dark and catharthic though, finally humble some people who desperately need humility in the fandom too. Although it would amplify hate towards both of those characters especially IMMENSELY beyond what he gets already too but it would also hype him up and gain him some new fans too, ironically lol.

Aye, Oda could do this too, to make Luffy vs Kidd happen as well. I feel since Kidd hates Buggy so much too, that hes gonna setup some kind of fight between Kidd and Buggy, id love to see how their DFs compare against each other and we could get Killer vs Crocodile which would be AWESOME! I purposely missed out Mihawk there, as I'm not sure how Kidd and co would even stand a chance with Mihawk there, as I also wank Mihawk to the heavens too and aint no way Killer is taking on Mihawk solo too either lmfao. Not even close!

Theres so many interesting angles going on and possibilities being setup here, that I really hope Oda hasnt stacked his Jenga tower too high or something like that, thats hes not been too ambitious for his own good and he can somehow create a satisfying battle royale as he said he wants to for the final saga (we've already seen some of it so far of course) and thus the great throne wars Doflamingo said would happen too. After Wano I'm not so hopeful especially but we'll see, I'll try to be optimistic but too too optimistic ofc lol.
 

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I have a strong feeling Oda will give us a single panel of Zoro landing his signature one sword style blow on Lucci and finishing him that way by the time we get back to that fight.
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Ok,that makes sense.But Admiral are still relative to Yonko.No YC1(except for Zoro and maybe Ben) will be their level.
Next time we see Lucci
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Hmm that would be interesting, I've seen some people speculate about Kidd and Blackbeard teaming up against Shanks but Law teaming up with Shanks to go after BB? VERY interesting1 And thus as you said, we could get an actual Law vs Kidd fight, which would be DOPE but I already know Oda is gonna make Law the victor in that one given his overwhelming biases with Law and Shanks lol.

Kidd and Blackbeard winning would be so hype, dark and catharthic though, finally humble some people who desperately need humility in the fandom too. Although it would amplify hate towards both of those characters especially IMMENSELY beyond what he gets already too but it would also hype him up and gain him some new fans too, ironically lol.

Aye, Oda could do this too, to make Luffy vs Kidd happen as well. I feel since Kidd hates Buggy so much too, that hes gonna setup some kind of fight between Kidd and Buggy, id love to see how their DFs compare against each other and we could get Killer vs Crocodile which would be AWESOME! I purposely missed out Mihawk there, as I'm not sure how Kidd and co would even stand a chance with Mihawk there, as I also wank Mihawk to the heavens too and aint no way Killer is taking on Mihawk solo too either lmfao. Not even close!

Theres so many interesting angles going on and possibilities being setup here, that I really hope Oda hasnt stacked his Jenga tower too high or something like that, thats hes not been too ambitious for his own good and he can somehow create a satisfying battle royale as he said he wants to for the final saga (we've already seen some of it so far of course) and thus the great throne wars Doflamingo said would happen too. After Wano I'm not so hopeful especially but we'll see, I'll try to be optimistic but too too optimistic ofc lol.
Kidd going after Luffy after all i said could emulate Roger vs Shiki imo.Even their devil fruits are similar.Maybe Oda could make Kidd go around recruiting veterans and former Yonko crew members to have a final shot at Luffy for his PK title.That could be how Oda makes Kidd relevant.His epithet is "Captain" after all.
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Perhaps not a full 800, but something is definitely unnatural about them.
yeah they have something weird going on for them.
 
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I have a strong feeling Oda will give us a single panel of Zoro landing his signature one sword style blow on Lucci and finishing him that way by the time we get back to that fight.
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Ok,that makes sense.But Admiral are still relative to Yonko.No YC1(except for Zoro and maybe Ben) will be their level.
Zoro will realise he's fighting someone with black hair, a black aura from his awakening and covered in black spots and one shot him instantly /s.

Seriously though, that would be raw and awesome, especially if he makes another king of hell reference, maybe something about the king of hell, vs the king of the jungle and he knocks out Lucci with a AdvCoC strike or even sears him with his flames too.

Zoro did those blue flames vs Ryuuma somehow too and I'd love those to return somewhow, whatever the hell they were too lol.

I got ChatGPT to write some lines based on this to see what we could get too:

Zoro is currently fighting Lucci on Egghead, the retro futuristic tropical island of Dr Vegapunk. Lucci has awakening now and Zoro has advanced conquerors haki, coating his swords in green flames and with lightning coming from them. Write some badass lines of Zoro defeating Lucci with a single strike, basing around Zoro calling himself the King of Hell vs Lucci trying to be King of the Jungle. Write 15 examples.
  1. Zoro: (With a fiery determination) Lucci, your jungle ends here. I am the King of Hell, and I'll send you there with a single strike!
  2. Zoro: (Eyes ablaze with green flames) Your jungle may be wild, but my hellfire will burn it to ashes!
  3. Zoro: (Swords crackling with lightning) Lightning, meet leopard. King of Hell, meet King of the Jungle!
  4. Zoro: (As he prepares his strike) Lucci, you may be fierce, but I'm the fiercest. The King of Hell shall devour the King of the Jungle!
  5. Zoro: (Sword poised for the final blow) Feel the wrath of the King of Hell as it scorches your jungle!
  6. Zoro: (With a smirk) Lucci, you think you can rule this island? I'll show you what real kingship looks like!
  7. Zoro: (As the wind howls around him) The jungle's chaos is no match for the storm of hellfire that I wield!
  8. Zoro: (Unsheathing his swords with precision) King of Hell... versus King of the Jungle. Let's settle this once and for all.
  9. Zoro: (With a fearless grin) You thought you were the king of this island, Lucci? It's time you met the true ruler, the King of Hell!
  10. Zoro: (Surrounded by a swirling tempest of flames and lightning) Your awakening is impressive, but my conquerors haki will conquer all, including your jungle.
  11. Zoro: (Swords dancing with deadly intent) Lucci, this island will remember me as its one and only King, the King of Hell!
  12. Zoro: (Staring down Lucci with unwavering resolve) Your leopard may have roared, but the King of Hell will make sure it never roars again!
  13. Zoro: (As his swords hum with power) The jungle may be your domain, but my conquerors haki will make it mine.
  14. Zoro: (Green flames intensifying) Lucci, prepare for the reign of the true King. Hellfire, consume the jungle!
  15. Zoro: (Delivering the final strike) King of Hell's verdict: Guilty! The jungle shall bow to its new ruler!
 
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Kidd going after Luffy after all i said could emulate Roger vs Shiki imo.Even their devil fruits are similar.Maybe Oda could make Kidd go around recruiting veterans and former Yonko crew members to have a final shot at Luffy for his PK title.That could be how Oda makes Kidd relevant.His epithet is "Captain" after all.
Oh yes absolutely! I've always likened Kidd to Shiki so that is absolutely perfect! Oda deadass would have Kidd confronting Luffy like Shiki did to Roger, with the biggest fleet ever even and have at least half the fleet wiped out by a freak storm (probably caused by Nami this time and maybe Luffys CoC though, if not Uranus depending what it is or just a freak storm by "luck/fate" too).

YES! I so badly wanted Law and Kidd to gain new members for their crew! Some BM pirates could have defected and joined Law imo, some of the Beast Pirates could have defected and gone to Kidd or even a mix of members from both crews going to theirs.

Yeah exactly man! I am loving all this respect, knowledge and understanding for Kidd, thank you! It's extremely refreshing to see it on here, especially outside of the Kidd FC ofc! As rare and refreshering as water/oasises in the desert LOL!

I would love that so much, I may have to generate a fanfic of Kidd doing exactly that now lmao. Tbh I feel Law would be an amazing fit with the Revolutionaries and they lack a powerful swordsman unless Fujitora turns out to be one or allies with them lmao.
 
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