It's not an empty claim. That's the debate in the first place, let's agree to disagree then. Let's say that we just don't view this the same way.

Then I should have not tagged you.

I won't say that because it's not an empty claim in my eyes as I said.

Most of the debates that I have stem from this. Person doesn't see what I see so they think that my argument is empty.

Remember what I told you the first time? We don't view things the same way so I already knew that it was not worth my time discussing this with you.
Nope. There’s no agreeing to disagree about something that’s just plain obvious. Saturn has simply not done anything that makes him stronger than Kizaru. He can do so in the future, at which point we can all gladly say so. It’s that simple.
It’s like saying that Dragon is stronger than Kaido based on what he’s done. He could be, but he’s certainly not shown anything to make that a fact.

You can’t claim to be a scientist and not know the bare minimum of the scientific method. Observation and verification is needed to support a claim.
All you had to do right from the start is abandon your silly agenda and say “I believe that Saturn will be stronger than Kizaru” not claiming a pentagram makes it a fact before any actual proof.

You’ve already proven it’s empty when you came up with nothing. That’s the definition of the word. Saying that he could turn out to be stronger is the reasonable, agenda-free position…and you could even make reasonable points to that effect. That’s not what you chose to do though, so here we are.
 
Next time you try to downplay someone @BlackLegFring, do it to the right person because clearly, there isn't only this manga and my posts that you don't understand.
I answered his stupid question multiple times, he's downplaying the Gorosei and then like a hypocrite cries his admirals are downplayed.

One of those that gets offended their headcanon doesn't get accepted.:milaugh:
 
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